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Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« on: December 29, 2014, 10:17:15 AM »
This started life as the Kalmyk (found HERE) in Takiro's Aerospace Challenge #29 (Nova Cat Supplemental). It's based on the Jagatai airframe with the engine replaced by the 280SFE found in the Guillotine IIC. This would be a Coyote design rather than a Nova Cat design and would replace the as yet not in production Ammon (not in production until 3064) at the Omega Orbital Production facility. I'm offering up two different variants. Changes made to the base Kalmyk include lowering the armor by one ton and adding a ton of fuel. I could see this as a design influenced by members of the Society, but it is not essential.


Gaugamela
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Class/Model/Name:  Gaugamela
Tech:              Clan / 3052
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              70 tons
Length:            19 meters
Power Plant:       280 Fusion
Safe Thrust:       6
Maximum Thrust:    9
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:         
    1 LRM 15+ArtIV
    2 ER Medium Laser
    2 ER PPC
    1 SRM 6+ArtIV
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Gaugamela
Mass:              70 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  280 Fusion                                                16.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 6
      Maximum Thrust: 9
Structural Integrity: 7                                                   .00
Total Heat Sinks:    18 Double                                           8.00
Fuel:                                                                    6.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (249 total armor pts)                      13.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 85
   Left/Right Wings:                  57/57
   Aft:                                  50

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 15+ArtIV             Nose        12     12     12     --    5      4.50
  Ammo (LRM 15) 16         ---                                           2.00
2 ER Medium Laser          Nose         7      7     --     --   10      2.00
1 ER PPC                   RW          15     15     15     --   15      6.00
1 ER PPC                   LW          15     15     15     --   15      6.00
1 SRM 6+ArtIV              Aft         10     --     --     --    4      2.50
  Ammo (SRM 6) 15          ---                                           1.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment       Body                                           .00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 49     70.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        5,238,765 C-Bills
Battle Value:      2,373
Cost per BV:       2,207.65
Weapon Value:      2,852 (Ratio = 1.20)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 44;  MRV = 30;  LRV = 9;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 6 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/5/4,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: FM;  Point Value: 24



Gaugamela 2
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Class/Model/Name:  Gaugamela 2
Tech:              Clan / 3052
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              70 tons
Length:            19 meters
Power Plant:       280 Fusion
Safe Thrust:       6
Maximum Thrust:    9
Armor Type:        Ferro-aluminum
Armament:         
    1 Gauss Rifle
    2 ER Large Laser
    2 ER Medium Laser
    1 Medium Pulse Laser
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  Gaugamela 2
Mass:              70 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  280 Fusion                                                16.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 6
      Maximum Thrust: 9
Structural Integrity: 7                                                   .00
Total Heat Sinks:    15 Double                                           5.00
Fuel:                                                                    6.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-aluminum  (249 total armor pts)                      13.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 85
   Left/Right Wings:                  57/57
   Aft:                                  50

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Gauss Rifle              Nose        15     15     15     --    1     12.00
  Ammo (Gauss) 24          ---                                           3.00
1 ER Large Laser           RW          10     10     10     10   12      4.00
1 ER Large Laser           LW          10     10     10     10   12      4.00
1 ER Medium Laser          RW           7      7     --     --    5      1.00
1 ER Medium Laser          LW           7      7     --     --    5      1.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft          7      7     --     --    4      2.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment       Body                                           .00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 39     70.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        4,662,315 C-Bills
Battle Value:      2,284
Cost per BV:       2,041.29
Weapon Value:      2,597 (Ratio = 1.14)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 40;  MRV = 32;  LRV = 8;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 6 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/5/3,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FM;  Point Value: 23
« Last Edit: December 29, 2014, 10:20:04 AM by Abele »
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2014, 11:57:34 AM »
Hmm, this is very interesting and allows me to discuss a future plan with you guys. Again the Guillotine IIC BattleMech is rapidly becoming the Crazy Horse OmniMech which is a result of the Quicksilver Trails. Modularizing existing BattleMechs or upgrading to OmniMechs was a theme begun by the Locust IIC which is being refitted to the Sparrow by the Jade Faclons. This was example was quickly followed by others; Glass Spider/Galahad to Iron Spider by Burrock, Black Python/Viper to Golden Lion by Steel Viper, Warhammer IIC to Glaive by Diamond Shark, Highlander IIC to Clansman by Diamond Shark, Blood Kite to Stone Lion by Goliath Scorpion, and the Kodiak to DeChevalier by Ghost Bear. That is eight (8) second line designs upgraded to front line status for the war effort against the InnerSphere. Not only is this an impressive military mobilization by the Clans but an economic advantage selling how to OmniKits (Upgrade Packages) to other Clans.

Lets not forget about the scientific potential of such upgrades. Making an OmniMech is not easy as we know. Where possible and necessary you would have to remove any "hardwired" equipment. Certain gyroscopic modifications and software upgrades are required to transform a standard BattleMech into an Omni requiring greater expenses (overall cost multiplied .25). This is where Coyote comes in with their research acumen. While they have come up short in the Quicksilver Trails with only three (3) designs in full scale production (Savage Coyote OmniMech, Menoetius OmniMech, Shoshone OmniFighter) it has given them room to explore new possibilities.

While the new leadership and scientists of the Coyotes are intrigued by possibility offered in creating new Combat OmniVehicles their traditional Mechwarrior based touman is not. Leaving the production of such endeavors to others means that the remaining primary manufacturing slots of the Clan (3) will be filled with second line equipment (BattleMech and Aerospace Fighters) which are necessary for the war effort but far less glorious. However, recognizing the new trend toward modularize of existing equipment the scientist went back to the drawing "Omni" drawing board. Learning again from the examples provided by the Star League Mercury and Spad researchers have come up with a new concept.

The "Pocket OmniMech" is a standard BattleMech much like the Mercury built with future modularization in mind cutting the time for any such upgrade and making it ideal for such a process. The three Dog series BattleMechs (35 ton Dingo, 55 ton Jackal, and 75 ton Hyena) were to be this equipment. Now the Dingo and the Hyena (aka the Arctic Horror) are JPArbiter creations so I would love his input. I could see the Gaugamela (great name by the way) being the possible out growth of this effort aerospace wise.

Thoughts??
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 10:27:35 AM »
Here's a 3rd iteration of the Gaugamela

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Gaugamela 3
Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3052+
Tech Rating: F/X-F-D-D

Weight: 70 tons
BV: 2,539
Cost: 5,434,515 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 280
Heat Sinks: 17 [34]
Fuel Points: 480 (6.0 tons)

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 211 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose           66 
Left Wing      50 
Right Wing     50 
Aft            45 

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
ER Large Laser      NOS   12   
ER Large Laser      NOS   12   
ER Medium Laser     NOS    5   
Medium Pulse Laser  AFT    4   
ER Medium Laser     NOS    5   
LRM 15              LWG    5   
LRM 15              RWG    5   

Ammo                                Loc  Shots 
------------------------------------------------
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  LWG      8 
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  LWG      8 
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  RWG      8 
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  RWG      8 
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  RWG      8 
LRM 15 (Clan) Artemis-capable Ammo  LWG      8 


Equipment       Loc 
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Artemis IV FCS  RWG 
Artemis IV FCS  LWG 
« Last Edit: October 16, 2018, 10:28:05 AM by Abele »
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 02:08:00 PM »
In regards to your post Takiro, would the partial modularization you discuss not be what the Mechwarrior video game has done. Where it allows you to modify a 'Mech but within a certain set of criteria. Like an ER PPC could be replaced but it could only be replaced by placing other energy based weapons.

In terms of the different versions. I'm partial to both the type 2 and 3's. If I could only chose one it would probably be the #2 version as it has a consistent damage output with LRMs never know how many will hit or if the enemy has an AMS.
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 04:05:37 PM »
A nice variant Abele, how is the fluff coming along?

Playing the new BattleTech/ Mechwarrior game is of course different from the rule set established by the board game. While I do like some aspects of that especially for BattleMechs I would think OmniMechs could mount whatever they wanted wherever they could.
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 02:45:56 AM »
Really nice work :D
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 05:11:08 AM »
Quote from: Takiro on October 16, 2018, 04:05:37 PM
A nice variant Abele, how is the fluff coming along?


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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 06:31:30 AM »
No worries, I should be getting back to the Woodsman review later today myself as real life block is over for now.  ;)
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 08:00:26 AM »
Fluff attempt:

Following the acceptance of the Dragoon Compromise, the leadership of Clan Coyote embarked on a campaign of upgrading their touman in preparation of their self-perceived notion of returning to the Inner Sphere as part of the invasion force. While OmniMechs and Battle Armor would be at the forefront of their modernization, Aerospace development would further fall to the wayside. This changed in 3033 as a rogue group of scientists and technicians set about using what little spare time they had from other projects. Several airframes were available to the groups due to numerous aircraft being deadlined for various reasons, chief among them faulty powerplants. The most numerous were a quartet of [ijagatai[/I]s that suffered from stress cracks in the fusion reactors. The purpose of the new aircraft would be to free up more OmniFighters for frontline use and to replace what few Star League-era aircraft still remained in service.

Senior Scientist Kayleigh [Migoyan] realized that the airframes were still relatively new and that they could be repurposed. The Jagatais were stripped clean leaving bare frames. The first change was redesigning the forward section and making it more aerodynamic for atmospheric use while still being able to hold a few weapons. Her next choice, after much discussion with her senior technician, Babtunde, was to use the more readily available standard 280 fusion powerplant found in the Guillotine IIc. This would lead to a decrease of weight allocated to both armor and weaponry. but it is one that Kayleigh thought could be overcome by putting the right weapon.

Two different variants were developed simultaneously, the Gaugamela 1 and Gaugamela 2, with each suited to combat at long ranges. The Gaugamela 1 features a pair of ER PPCs as it main weapons. They are backed up by a brace of ER medium lasers and a array of missiles. The Gaugamela 2 is armed with a Gauss rifle backed up by a pair of ER large lasers and a trio of small lasers. They tested well in simulated combat operations, but proved themselves in real combat when the Coyote enclave on Kirin was raided by a large force of Dark Caste bandits. The four fighters were the first to encounter the bandits and made several strafing passes before the main Coyote force showed up to continue the battle on the ground. Leaving the ground batte the four fighters scouted out the location of the bandit dropships. After making a half dozen attack runs on the pair of Dropships leaving one destroyed while losing one of the Gaugamelas to return fire. With the design a proven success, Senior Scientist Kayleigh submitted a full proposal to the Scientist-General and awaited his decision.

<more to follow>
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2018, 01:24:39 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on October 16, 2018, 04:05:37 PM
A nice variant Abele, how is the fluff coming along?

Playing the new BattleTech/ Mechwarrior game is of course different from the rule set established by the board game. While I do like some aspects of that especially for BattleMechs I would think OmniMechs could mount whatever they wanted wherever they could.

I misread pocket as partial when made my original comment.

In regards to the fluff. It makes sense as the Coyotes really don't have or respect their Aerospace fighters it appears.

I don't know what makes the difference between an Omni and regular Aerospace fighter. The "Mech specifically states it needed enhanced gyroscopes to deal with the change in loads. I also know there was fluff about wiring and such. With that said couldn't you just have some frames being sent for Omni production and some for Fixed Aero designs. It would make sense and allow a Clan to have Omnifighters for its frontline warriors and cheaper fixed designs for its second line. No separate training and orientation required.
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 06:16:09 AM »
Quote from: Abele on October 18, 2018, 08:00:26 AM
Fluff attempt:

Following the acceptance of the Dragoon Compromise, the leadership of Clan Coyote embarked on a campaign of upgrading their touman in preparation of their self-perceived notion of returning to the Inner Sphere as part of the invasion force. While OmniMechs and Battle Armor would be at the forefront of their modernization, Aerospace development would further fall to the wayside. This changed in 3033 as a rogue group of scientists and technicians set about using what little spare time they had from other projects. Several airframes were available to the groups due to numerous aircraft being deadlined for various reasons, chief among them faulty powerplants. The most numerous were a quartet of [ijagatai[/I]s that suffered from stress cracks in the fusion reactors. The purpose of the new aircraft would be to free up more OmniFighters for frontline use and to replace what few Star League-era aircraft still remained in service.

Senior Scientist Kayleigh [Migoyan] realized that the airframes were still relatively new and that they could be repurposed. The Jagatais were stripped clean leaving bare frames. The first change was redesigning the forward section and making it more aerodynamic for atmospheric use while still being able to hold a few weapons. Her next choice, after much discussion with her senior technician, Babtunde, was to use the more readily available standard 280 fusion powerplant found in the Guillotine IIc. This would lead to a decrease of weight allocated to both armor and weaponry. but it is one that Kayleigh thought could be overcome by putting the right weapon.

Two different variants were developed simultaneously, the Gaugamela 1 and Gaugamela 2, with each suited to combat at long ranges. The Gaugamela 1 features a pair of ER PPCs as it main weapons. They are backed up by a brace of ER medium lasers and a array of missiles. The Gaugamela 2 is armed with a Gauss rifle backed up by a pair of ER large lasers and a trio of small lasers. They tested well in simulated combat operations, but proved themselves in real combat when the Coyote enclave on Kirin was raided by a large force of Dark Caste bandits. The four fighters were the first to encounter the bandits and made several strafing passes before the main Coyote force showed up to continue the battle on the ground. Leaving the ground batte the four fighters scouted out the location of the bandit dropships. After making a half dozen attack runs on the pair of Dropships leaving one destroyed while losing one of the Gaugamelas to return fire. With the design a proven success, Senior Scientist Kayleigh submitted a full proposal to the Scientist-General and awaited his decision.

<more to follow>

Looking forward to more bud.

I could see this design being somewhat long in development but I thought the Jagatai was a new fighter design?

I'll have to read up on OmniFighter design in TechManual and other books of that series. Maybe there is something on their development.
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2018, 07:20:10 AM »
It is, but it fits the weight criteria and allows me to tie-in the Woofs into the design. Coyotes are doing all the grunt work while the Woofs will end up supplying the materials.
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Re: Gaugamela: 70-ton Clan ASF
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 06:17:27 PM »
I like the two and three versions
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