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Phoenix (Star League)
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:08:22 AM »
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Class/Model/Name:  Phoenix (Star League)
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              2,500,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide

Armament:         
   80 Heavy NPPC
  800 ER PPC
  220 Small Pulse Laser

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==Overview:==

  As soon as New Vandenberg and seventeen other Periphery worlds revolted in
2765 against stiff Star League taxes, unstable First Lord Richard Cameron
embarked on construction of a Battlestation class warship named the Phoenix.
Despite the assassination of Lord Cameron in 2766 by Stefan Amaris and the
chaos that ensued, the Phoenix was completed in 2775. The design and
construction utilized vast Star League resources along with the most
sophisticated warship construction techniques and equipment at an undisclosed
location.

  The primary purpose of the Phoenix class warship design was to provide First
Lord Richard Cameron a means to survive the collapse of the Star League and as
a centerpiece for its rebirth. The First Lord's quarters are so elaborate,
that combined with holographic technology, one almost forgets they are on a
spacecraft. Besides the usual security on the Flagship of the Star League,
there are a minimium of four royal guards accompanying the First Lord at all
times. And there is the fearsome reputation of the Battlestation which is well
deserved since the design possesses the firepower of a small fleet.

  The first and only Battlestation class warship was named after a legendary
Terran bird Phoenix which is said to live 500 years, die in a fiery blaze,
only to again rise from its ashes to live as an emblem of immortality. The
Phoenix is a spherically designed warship that is vaguely similar to a super
sized Union Dropship. The exterior of the station is heavily armored and the
interior is heavily reinforced and sectionalized which makes boarding actions
difficult especially with large equipment or weapons (including Clan
Elementals).

  One of the most unusual aspects of the Phoenix is its advanced jump drive
which reportedly allows the Battlestation to stay in jump space for an
extended period of time although the effects of doing so are unknown. Some
have speculated that this ability to stay in jump space was used by members of
the Star League army when they seized the Phoenix just shortly before General
Kerensky could depart with it on his exodus in 2784. The Phoenix is an
engineering marvel and represents the pinnacle of Star League aerospace
technology.


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Class/Model/Name:  Phoenix (Star League)
Mass:              2,500,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      450,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 47)             1,131,250.00
Lithium Fusion Battery                                              25,000.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 9)                                155.00
Structural Integrity: 150                                          375,000.00
Total Heat Sinks:    15,812 Double                                  14,819.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  33,580.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              6,250.00
Fire Control Computers:                                            147,492.00
Food & Water:  (750 days supply)                                     6,949.00
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (7,590 total armor pts)         7,500.00

                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                              1,270
   Fore-Left/Right:                1,335/1,335
   Aft-Left/Right:                 1,225/1,225
   Aft:                               1,200

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                   10,000.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (5) with 5 doors                              1,000.00
           Small Craft Fuel and Supplies (1)                         1,000.00

DropShip Capacity:  2 Docking Hardpoints                             2,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (225-meter diameter)                               400.00
Life Boats:  160 (7 tons each)                                       1,120.00
Escape Pods:  160 (7 tons each)                                      1,120.00

Crew and Passengers:
    250 Officers (242 minimum)                                       2,500.00
    950 Crew (295 minimum)                                           6,650.00
    260 Gunners (250 minimum)                                        1,820.00
     10 1st Class Passengers                                           100.00
    300 Marines                                                      1,500.00
     25 Bay Personnel                                                  175.00
      1 First Lord's Quarters                                          500.00
     30 First Lord's Guard's Quarters                                  450.00
      1 Admiral's Quarters                                             200.00
      1 Captain's Quarters                                             100.00

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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4 Heavy NPPC               Nose        60     60     60     60  900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               Nose        60     60     60     60  900 12,000.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Nose   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Nose     2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
4 Heavy NPPC               FL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               FL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               FL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  FL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
4 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               L/RBS       60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  L/RBS  10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
4 Heavy NPPC               AL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               AL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               AL/R        60     60     60     60 1800 24,000.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
10 ER PPC                  AL/R   10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  300    140.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(15)     --     --     --   20     10.00
4 Heavy NPPC               Aft         60     60     60     60  900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC               Aft         60     60     60     60  900 12,000.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
10 ER PPC                  Aft    10(100)10(100)10(100)     --  150     70.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
5 Small Pulse Laser        Aft      2(15)     --     --     --   10      5.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%)                                           25,000.00
1 Large Naval Comm-Scanner                                             500.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                           Heat: 30,440   2,500,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        16,476,931,768 C-Bills
Battle Value:      355,726
Cost per BV:       46,319.17
Weapon Value:      368,120 (Ratio = 1.03)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 18,993;  MRV = 16,778;  LRV = 10,889;  ERV = 3,472
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,662,055
                   (395,600 Structure, 655,775 Life Support, 610,680 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 1,684,730  (101% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable
 
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Re: Phoenix (Star League)
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 01:37:52 AM »
A classic example of min/maxing. Truly uninspired.
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Re: Phoenix (Star League)
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 06:03:06 AM »
Quote from: Abele on June 05, 2015, 01:37:52 AM
A classic example of min/maxing. Truly uninspired.


  What is your definition of "min/maxing" and how exactly does this design fit that definition?
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Re: Phoenix (Star League)
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 06:13:46 PM »
2.5 MT, obscene amounts of top grade armour, ton of marines and masses of energy weapons in large bays with the heat sinks to fire them continuously.

That is min/maxing.

If your aim was to design an "ultimate battleship" your heading in the right direction, but if you want to use it in a game, it would be very boring.

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Re: Phoenix (Star League)
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 11:57:02 PM »
Quote from: Blacknova on June 06, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
2.5 MT, obscene amounts of top grade armour, ton of marines and masses of energy weapons in large bays with the heat sinks to fire them continuously.

That is min/maxing.

If your aim was to design an "ultimate battleship" your heading in the right direction, but if you want to use it in a game, it would be very boring.


  So basically large warship designs with a lot of armor and the ability to fire a lot of weapons is "min-maxing." Incidentally, your defintion would apply to canon designs like the Leviathan II, for example. And I won't straw man your definition with things like implying that a 2.5 million ton ship is out of line but something along the lines of a 2.4 million ton warship is somehow O.K., that a design without energy weapons couldn't "min-max," etc

  The fact you included the Marine part in your critique shows me you haven't read the boarding rules in Strategic Operations; if you had, you'd realize that boarding actions are pretty futile, especially against larger military warships even without any Marines. It also shows me that you have a bias against certain designs...

  In closing, if a scenario is boring, it isn't the fault of any particular unit used but with the person who came up with the scenario.
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Re: Phoenix (Star League)
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 11:18:09 AM »
Quote from: ATN082268 on June 08, 2015, 11:57:02 PM
Quote from: Blacknova on June 06, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
2.5 MT, obscene amounts of top grade armour, ton of marines and masses of energy weapons in large bays with the heat sinks to fire them continuously.

That is min/maxing.

If your aim was to design an "ultimate battleship" your heading in the right direction, but if you want to use it in a game, it would be very boring.


  So basically large warship designs with a lot of armor and the ability to fire a lot of weapons is "min-maxing." Incidentally, your defintion would apply to canon designs like the Leviathan II, for example. And I won't straw man your definition with things like implying that a 2.5 million ton ship is out of line but something along the lines of a 2.4 million ton warship is somehow O.K., that a design without energy weapons couldn't "min-max," etc

  The fact you included the Marine part in your critique shows me you haven't read the boarding rules in Strategic Operations; if you had, you'd realize that boarding actions are pretty futile, especially against larger military warships even without any Marines. It also shows me that you have a bias against certain designs...

  In closing, if a scenario is boring, it isn't the fault of any particular unit used but with the person who came up with the scenario.

News Flash:  the Leviathan II IS considered by most to be a min-max, boring-as-hell, munchkin design. 

MA
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