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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2018, 03:56:36 PM »

:D :D The star/god names work well, you could also go with battles/invasions etc for DropShips which kind of keeps in line with Overlord etc. 
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2018, 03:59:16 PM »

:D :D The star/god names work well, you could also go with battles/invasions etc for DropShips which kind of keeps in line with Overlord etc.

Since the Clans have naming patterns for other designs we should settle on one for Dropships and Warships.

Dropships seem to be names Myraborg, Noruff, Mercer

Warships would probably be good for Battles or Stars
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2018, 03:59:31 PM »

Space Above & Beyond was a great show certainly.

I am sorry marauder648, not trying to comment on specific design proposals cause I did not ask for any. Love the competitive spirit of the Quicksilver Trials and I'd love to try to keep it going right through dropships.

That said a couple of things I can say. The Titan-C may indeed be in line for an upgrade especially in light of the Miraborg trying to replace it and InnerSphere combat tactics threatening so many older craft as you point out.

Also I have decided to discontinue my IIC designation plan for dropships and simply go with the -C addition to the original name plus a new name. Haven't narrowed down the new name convention if it will be an InnerSphere designator or a theme called for by the ilKhan.
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2018, 03:49:54 AM »

*quietly suggests the name Thunderchild be brought up somewhere* :D
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #124 on: September 18, 2018, 02:48:28 PM »

I just reread the rules for Dropship Construction instead of just utilizing MekLab for it to see if there was anything I was missing. As I started working on Dawn League things in my spare time. I didn't realize Quarters had changed or that I misremembered it. I've been assuming First Class and Standard handled a single person a piece. Second Class was 2 person and Steerage was 4.

So in other words I didn't realize each person (bay and crew) needed to be accounted for when it came to the quarters. I think the large troop carriers will need to be looked at again or at least I need to with my designs.
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #125 on: September 18, 2018, 04:29:10 PM »

I just reread the rules for Dropship Construction instead of just utilizing MekLab for it to see if there was anything I was missing. As I started working on Dawn League things in my spare time. I didn't realize Quarters had changed or that I misremembered it. I've been assuming First Class and Standard handled a single person a piece. Second Class was 2 person and Steerage was 4.

So in other words I didn't realize each person (bay and crew) needed to be accounted for when it came to the quarters. I think the large troop carriers will need to be looked at again or at least I need to with my designs.

No, if I remember correctly, you pay 5.0 tons for a single steerage, 7.0 for a single standard, and 10.0 for a 1st-class.  That is the tonnage per individual.  It is just that most ships put two standard compartments together house two people and most steerage compartments sleep four.

Remember, the tonnage isn't just for a bed and private stateroom.  It also accounts for rec facilities, mess halls, medical facilities, etc, etc.

Bay personnel--by the rules as written--do not require any compartments.  They are supposed to be housed in the bay.  So each 'Mech or fighter carried (at 150 tons) contains the cradle to hold the unit, gantries to move it, possibly a drop chute, repair scaffolding, and bunks for a the MechWarrior (or Pilot) and a Tech.  Vehicle bays house four (plus a Tech) for a light vehicle and seven (plus a Tech) for a heavy vehicle. 

But in my own head canon, I always go ahead and assign dedicated staterooms.  Because it doesn't seem to me to make a lot of sense (especially for vehicles) that you can fit that many people into the space and still have room for the vehicle (or 'mech or fighter, etc.) and expect them to get any rest.  Much less have a place to eat, lavatories, medical support, entertainment, etc., etc.

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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #126 on: September 18, 2018, 05:24:24 PM »

Thanks i had to go back after i read it and i missed a key "not" in the sentence. I also didn't realize in another spot where i was reading it was for other vehicles and not dropships. Teaches  me not to solely rely on  just keyword searches on ebooks
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #127 on: September 19, 2018, 04:47:50 PM »

Developed by Clan Diamond Shark the Airavata  was designed to produce a modern DropShip that could carry a large amount of cargo in safety, able to defend itself from Bandit Caste raids or the predations of overly aggressive Clans.  Heavily influenced by the SLDF's CargoKing class that was just entering service at the start of the Amaris Crisis the schematics were found in a near forgotten database.  With over 9,000 tons of cargo onboard the new design carries more than a Mule and has a far better internal layout to load and unload cargo, with loading times reduced by up to 15%.  Although called the Airavata, named after a Hindi God's Elephant mount, the unofficial name that stuck was 'CargoKhan'. 

The considerable armament also worried some Warriors in other Clans and they demanded that a less well protected ship be built out of fear of arming Merchants and other Lower Castes.  This variant stripped armament down to a battery of ER Small lasers that were more of a deterrent than a real offensive weapon.  But the cargo space jumped up to 9105 tons vs 9020 tons on the better armed Mk 1 CargoKhan.  The Mk II is also cheaper to produce and is being produced in large numbers for the Free Guilds and is a common sight in Clan Space. 

The introduction of the CargoKhan allowed the Clans to start replacing their oldest transports and those that were in the worst material condition, the older DropShips would be scrapped and recycled, allowing the materials used in their hulls to be used in the construction of new ships, Mech's or other important materials.

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Airavata 'CargoKhan' Dropship
Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3145+
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-D

Weight: 12500 tons
BV: 4,528
Cost: 301,830,032 C-bills

Movement: 3/5
Heat Sinks: 128 [256]
Fuel Points: 0/10830 (361.0 tons)
Tons Per Burn Day: 1.84

Structural Integrity: 21
Armor: 349 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose           94 
Left Side      86 
Right Side     86 
Aft            83 

Weapons                 Loc  Heat 
-----------------------------------
Laser Bay               NOS   24   
ER Large Laser                     
ER Large Laser                     

PPC Bay                 NOS   45   
ER PPC                             
ER PPC                             
ER PPC                             

Laser Bay                LS   12   
ER Large Laser                 
   
PPC Bay                  LS   15   
ER PPC                             

Pulse Laser Bay          LS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser                 
Medium Pulse Laser             
   
Laser Bay                RS   12   
ER Large Laser                     

PPC Bay                  RS   15   
ER PPC                             

Pulse Laser Bay          RS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser                 
Medium Pulse Laser             
   
Pulse Laser Bay (R)      LS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser (R)             
Medium Pulse Laser (R)       
     
Pulse Laser Bay (R)      RS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser (R)             
Medium Pulse Laser (R)       
     
Laser Bay (R)            LS   12   
ER Large Laser (R)       
         
PPC Bay (R)              LS   15   
ER PPC (R)                   
     
Laser Bay (R)            RS   12   
ER Large Laser (R)         
       
PPC Bay (R)              RS   15   
ER PPC (R)                   
     
Laser Bay               AFT   12   
ER Large Laser               
     
Pulse Laser Bay         AFT    8   
Medium Pulse Laser                 
Medium Pulse Laser                 



Carrying Capacity
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Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,280 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,280 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,230 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,230 tons


Crew                 
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Officers            0
Enlisted/Non-rated  7
Gunners             5
Bay Personnel       0





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Airavata 'CargoKhan' Dropship Mk II
Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3145+
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-D

Weight: 12500 tons
BV: 1,217
Cost: 192,028,032 C-bills

Movement: 3/5
Heat Sinks: 124 [248]
Fuel Points: 0/10830 (361.0 tons)
Tons Per Burn Day: 1.84

Structural Integrity: 21
Armor: 349 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose           94 
Left Side      86 
Right Side     86 
Aft            83 

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
Laser Bay            LS    6   
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser               
 
Laser Bay           NOS    6   
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser           
     
Laser Bay            RS    6   
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser       
         
Laser Bay (R)        LS    6   
ER Small Laser (R)             
ER Small Laser (R)             
ER Small Laser (R)     
       
Laser Bay           AFT    6   
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser                 
ER Small Laser         
       
Laser Bay (R)        RS    6   
ER Small Laser (R)             
ER Small Laser (R)             
ER Small Laser (R)             



Carrying Capacity
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Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,280 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,280 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,280 tons
Cargo Space (2 doors) - 2,265 tons

Crew                 
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Officers            0
Enlisted/Non-rated  7
Gunners             5
Bay Personnel       0



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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2018, 09:56:38 AM »

I so want to design something now named King Khan lol

Nice design as usual something I could easily seeing Diamond Shark producing as well.
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #129 on: September 20, 2018, 10:59:31 AM »

Thank ya :) Takiro inspired the name so blame him :D
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #130 on: September 20, 2018, 11:52:35 AM »

Thank ya :) Takiro inspired the name so blame him :D

Threw this together real quick lol



Fire Mandrill new Totem Mech perhaps

King Khan
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Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3010+
Tech Rating: F/X-F-D-D

Weight: 75 tons
BV: 2,702
Cost: 15,541,750 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Engine: 300 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 16 [32]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 122
Armor: 224/247
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               23     31   
Center Torso (rear)               10   
Right Torso                16     24   
Right Torso (rear)                 7   
Left Torso                 16     24   
Left Torso (rear)                  7   
Front Right Leg            16     28   
Front Left Leg             16     28   
Rear Right Leg             16     28   
Rear Left Leg              16     28   

Weapons      Loc  Heat 
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ER PPC        RT   15   
ER PPC        RT   15   
Gauss Rifle   LT    1   

Ammo                     Loc  Shots 
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Gauss Rifle Ammo [Clan]   LT      24 

Equipment                  Loc 
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Targeting Computer [Clan]   RT 



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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #131 on: September 20, 2018, 12:17:58 PM »

Ooooh! And I always loved that Zoid. 

Yas this will do very nicely :D  Get those dumb monkies to actually work together.
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #132 on: September 20, 2018, 03:46:48 PM »

Threaddrifter! I have to say a few Fire Mandrill Quicksilver Mechs which I loved didn't make it. The Silverback and Fire Ant being my favorite two.

With a name like Airavata I was expecting a new Elephant class Tug although the CargoKhan might just be too good to turn down.

I will try to redo the dropship plan tonight as I think we made significant progress here. Stay tuned and on topic!
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Re: Quicksilver Dropships
« Reply #133 on: September 25, 2018, 04:08:04 PM »

So while BSing on Saturday with Takiro we talked a little about Dropships and the direction he might eventually go in. An idea that we batted back and forth was size and such.

So the Odyssey Jumpship they produce has 4 Docking points so with that as the delivery vehicle we have 4 potential dropships to use for delivery of a Cluster in my mind.

Not truly modular but the same chassis and armament but just changing around the bays for their needs.

Mech Carrier
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Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)

Weight: 15000 tons
BV: 12,809
Cost: 714,600,000 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Heat Sinks: 220 [440]
Fuel Points: 15000 (500.0 tons)
Tons Per Burn Day: 1.84

Structural Integrity: 20
Armor: 1592 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose          450 
Left Side     400 
Right Side    400 
Aft           342 

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
Laser Bay           NOS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay             NOS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay     NOS   16   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            RS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              RS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      RS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            LS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              LS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      LS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay           AFT   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
Pulse Laser Bay     AFT   32   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             

Carrying Capacity
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Mech (2 doors) - 15 units
Mech (2 doors) - 15 units
Mech (2 doors) - 15 units
Aerospace Fighter (2 doors) - 4 units (2 recovery open)
Cargo Space (0 doors) - 1,318 tons

Crew                 
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Officers             3
Enlisted/Non-rated   4
Gunners              8
Bay Personnel       98

BA & Vehicle Carrier
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Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)

Weight: 15000 tons
BV: 12,809
Cost: 742,680,000 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Heat Sinks: 220 [440]
Fuel Points: 15000 (500.0 tons)
Tons Per Burn Day: 1.84

Structural Integrity: 20
Armor: 1592 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose          450 
Left Side     400 
Right Side    400 
Aft           342 

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
Laser Bay           NOS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay             NOS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay     NOS   16   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            RS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              RS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      RS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            LS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              LS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      LS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay           AFT   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
Pulse Laser Bay     AFT   32   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             

Carrying Capacity
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Aerospace Fighter (2 doors) - 4 units (2 recovery open)
Small Craft (2 doors) - 4 units (2 recovery open)
Battle Armor Bay (2 doors) - 15 Points
Heavy Vehicle Bay (2 doors) - 30 units
Cargo Space (0 doors) - 4,118 tons

Crew                   
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Officers              3
Enlisted/Non-rated    4
Gunners               8
Bay Personnel       358


Aerospace Carrier
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Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)

Weight: 15000 tons
BV: 12,809
Cost: 700,488,000 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Heat Sinks: 220 [440]
Fuel Points: 15000 (500.0 tons)
Tons Per Burn Day: 1.84

Structural Integrity: 20
Armor: 1592 (Ferro-Aluminum)
            Armor 
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Nose          450 
Left Side     400 
Right Side    400 
Aft           342 

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
Laser Bay           NOS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay             NOS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay     NOS   16   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            RS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              RS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      RS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay            LS   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
PPC Bay              LS   60   
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
ER PPC                         
Pulse Laser Bay      LS    8   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Laser Bay           AFT   48   
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
ER Large Laser                 
Pulse Laser Bay     AFT   32   
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             
Medium Pulse Laser             

Carrying Capacity
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Aerospace Fighter (4 doors) - 30 units (2 recovery open)
Small Craft (2 doors) - 4 units (2 recovery open)
Cargo Space (0 doors) - 3,368 tons

Crew                 
----------------------
Officers             3
Enlisted/Non-rated   4
Gunners              8
Bay Personnel       80

Each has 20 Life Boats and enough quarters first or standard for their crews.

I would think the 4th dropship would either be an assault dropship or cargo carrier depending upon need.
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