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I see. I honestly wasn't considering the use of SLDF XL engines as anything but a production choice, just like the use of airframes from old SLDF fighters stockpiled. There's no rules difference between them for aerospace fighters (although realistically they would be different so the prototype should use the same one as the production model). The mixed-tech objection is reasonable - parts compatibility is an issue.

I don't usually have Clans co-operating because they're generally more interested in competition.

The Kubulai remains a non-contender I should add.

The Rapier is out of production so it's a build new factory/use stockpiles matter just like the 260XL engines. So much for that and for any design that isn't being built - which is pretty much the Xerxes or maybe fiddling around with something that starts out lighter or heavier.

Which leaves me the limited amusement of building within rather tight constraints or of submitting joke entries that have no chance at all of winning.

(Oh, and the Hellfury 60-ton werewolf is also disqualified by this since that requires Lupus chassis to use and the Lupus is out of production. I guess I didn't win that one after all did I?)

It's your contest, Takiro, so you make the rules. You don't seem to have considered the consequences of changing this ruling now though.

Okay. Sorry if I was a bit difficult. Here's the 340XL entrant you were hinting you wanted.


Class/Model/Name:  Cimmerian
Tech:              Clan / 3052
Vessel Type:       Aerospace Fighter
Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              85 tons
Frame:             
Power Plant:       General Systems 340 XL Fusion
Safe Thrust:       6
Maximum Thrust:    9
Armor Type:        Composition B Ferro-Aluminium
Podspace:          45.5 tons
Manufacturer:      Homer Orbital Aeropsace Facility M13
  Primary Factory: Homer
Communications System:  Omni 7
Targeting & Tracking System:  Valiant 2------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Overview:
The Smoke Jaguars have long considered improving upon the aged Xerxes to provide themselves with a top-notch aerospace heavyweight platform. Several attempts had been made to arrange the necessary resources, the closest anyone had come being the recent development of the Sabutai in recent years. This has left the Lootera Spaceworks fully commited however so the possibility of adapting the design for the Quicksilver project seemed out of reach.

Ultimately the need to arrange resources to re-equip their touman after the losses on Luthien and Tukkayid forced Khan Lincoln Osis to accept his saKhan's proposal to exchange not only the Xerxes rights and a considerable amount of technical data to Clan Cloud Cobra but also to offer to trade the necessary engine parts for General Systems 340 XL reactors for a share of the production.

For their part the Cloud Cobras were happy to offer the Smoke Jaguars substantial shipments of raw materials from the Tanite worlds for the opportunity to add a new heavyweight design to their arsenal, aiming to surpass the Jade Falcon's infamous Scytha.


Capabilities:
The Cloud Cobras took inspiration not only from the Xerxes but also reports of the DCA's formidable Slayer heavy aerospace fighters. The Smoke Jaguars and Nova Cats had both learned grudging respect for the range and durability of the Kurita design so the Cobra scientists retained the Xerxes generous fuel capacity and increased its armour protection by a solid 30%.

As a result the Cimmerian can slightly exceed the Scytha's payload, although it doesn't carry quite the same degree of cooling systems making it rather more limited in its ability to carry heavy loads of energy weapons.

In primary configuration the Cimmerian mounts several lasers in the wings but the focus of the armament is a trio of ultra-autocannon in the nose for a brutal hammer blow reminiscent to that of the Xerxes nose guns. A single aft-mounted laser provides rear defense.

The Cimmerian A replaces the autocannon with a pair of Gauss Rifles and upgrades the wing lasers to large pulse lasers with two aft medium pulse lasers. A hidden sting in this configuration is the small missile launcher. Cloud Cobra envisage the use of inferno missiles and potentially other specialist loads.

The B configuration carries five missile launchers and two extended range lasers for long range engagements, generating considerable heat. Additional lasers and a targeting computer can make the fighter an impressive sniper though, before closing in to smother a target with LRMs.

The Cimmerian C is relatively simple with a pair of nose-mounted PPCs and each wing bringing to bear short range missile volleys. With the most heatsinks of any configuration, it can even risk a full alpha-strike.


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Class/Model/Name:  Cimmerian
Mass:              85 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  340 XL Fusion                                             13.50
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 6
      Maximum Thrust: 9
Structural Integrity: 8                                                   .00
Total Heat Sinks:    12 (24)                                             3.00
Fuel:                                                                    8.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters:                                            3.00
Armor Type:  Ferro-Aluminium (230 total armor pts)                      12.00
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                 84
   Left/Right Wings:                   49/49
   Aft:                                  48


Configuration: Prime
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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3 Ultra AC/10              Nose        45     45     --     --   18     30.00
Ammo (Ultra) 60            --                                            6.00
2 ER Medium Lasers         RW          14     14     --     --   10      2.00
1 ER Small Laser           RW           5     --     --     --    2      0.50
2 ER Medium Lasers         LW          14     14     --     --   10      2.00
1 ER Small Laser           LW           5     --     --     --    2      0.50
1 ER Small Laser           Aft          5     --     --     --    2      0.50
4 Double Heatsinks         --                                            4.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 44     85.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Configuration: A
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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2 Gauss Rifles             Nose        30     30     30     --    2     24.00
Ammo (Gauss) 32            --                                            4.00
SRM 2                      Nose         2     --     --     --    2      0.50
Ammo (SRM) 50              --                                            1.00
1 Large Pulse Laser        RW          10     10     10     --   10      6.00
1 Large Pulse Laser        LW          10     10     10     --   10      6.00
2 Medium Pulse Lasers      Aft         14     14     --     --    8      4.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 32     85.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00


Configuration: B
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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2 ER Large Lasers          Nose        20     20     20     20   24      8.00
1 LRM 15 + Artemis IV      Nose        12     12     12     --    5      4.50
2 LRM 15 + Artemis IV      RW          24     24     24     --   10      9.00
1 ER Medium Laser          RW           7      7     --     --    5      1.00
2 LRM 15 + Artemis IV      LW          24     24     24     --   10      9.00 
1 ER Medium Laser          LW           7      7     --     --    5      1.00
1 ER Medium Laser          Aft          7      7     --     --    5      1.00
Ammo (LRM) 32              --                                            4.00
5 Double Heatsinks         --                                            5.00
Targeting Computer         --                                            3.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 64     85.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Configuration: C
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
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2 ER PPCs                  Nose        30     30     30     --   30     12.00
4 Streak SRM 4             RW          36     36     --     --   16      8.00 
4 Streak SRM 4             LW          36     36     --     --   16      8.00 
1 ER Small Laser           Aft          5     --     --     --    2      0.50
Ammo (Streak) 100          --                                            4.00
15 Double Heatsinks        --                                           15.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                    Heat: 64     85.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Most of the fluff is up . . . I just have capabilities, configurations, and deployment to post later tonight or tomorrow morning.  Will definitely have it all up before Friday, but I think it explains well just how the Scorpions, Coyotes, and Jaguars manage to work together (sort of).

MA

All fluff is up.  Enjoy!

MA

That's what he has been doing with last two or three designs at least.

Also makes him that much harder to beat