Topic: Request for a Design: Alpha-class Clan Common Troop Carrier (Read 696 times)

masterarminas · « **on:** November 06, 2013, 12:11:20 AM »

Okay guys and girls, this is what I need. My copy of HM: Aero is acting up and I need the stats on a ship. So, which of you is going to help me and design this sucker?

Here are the parameters:

1. Clan tech-base, at 300,000-400,000 tons with a detachable sail, Lithium-fusion Batteries, and an HPG.

2. Minimum of SIX docking collars.

3. Your design MUST HAVE the following elements:

3a. Cluster Command HQ that consumes 3,000 tons.
3b. Satellite Launch Bay with 144 satellites (another 3,000 tons).
3c. Repair Bay that consumes 5,000 tons.
3d. Add 50 Cluster HQ Staff and 25 Repair Facility Technicians to the ship's crew.
3e. Quarters for 25 Marine Elementals.
3f. NO fighter bays.
3g. Any number of small craft bays, but bay personnel MUST be provided with crew quarters at 7 tons each.
3h. Sufficient fuel bunkers for 365 cruising days at 1-g.
3i. Devotes at least 5% of the ship's mass to spare parts and an additional 5% to cargo.
3j. Minimum of four grav decks of the same diameter (105-meters plus preferred, but not required).
3k. Sufficient escape pods (NOT life boats) for all crew and passengers.
3l. Food and water for crew and passengers for at least 365 days.
3m. Minimum of 25 1st-class passenger staterooms and 50 2nd-class passenger staterooms. No maximum.

4. Secondary anti-fighter/small craft batteries will be either two-gun Large Pulse Lasers and/or three-gun Medium Pulse Lasers. NO AMS systems. Capital armament is your choice.

5. Armor is either ferro-carbide or lamellar ferro-carbide. SI is limited to a range of 35-50.

6. This is for a revamp of my Clan Common WarShip program; this design will be the Alpha-class. In addition (later on), there will be a Beta-class Corvette, a Gamma-class Destroyer, a Delta-class Frigate, and then an Epsilon-class Cruiser. The Clan Common WarShip program is designed to replace older SLDF ships with modern, more rugged, and just plain better designed ships than those of the SLDF. The Alpha is intended to be a transport for Clan front-line Clusters, with enough docking collars to transport ANY Clan's Cluster Organization (if they use the right DropShips, at least).

Okay, folks. That's the parameters. Who can get this done?

Master Arminas

Blacknova · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2013, 05:05:34 AM »

I made it, but I do this so rarely I may have missed a thing or two. I can't seem to find the HMA file, which shows all the additions in the folder, does anyone else have this problem at times?

masterarminas · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2013, 11:44:59 AM »

If you aren't careful with HMA, it will save to a completely different directory. I've had that problem in the past.

MA

Shadow_Wraith · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2013, 01:03:44 AM »

Here is my version.

AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name: Alpha Class Transport Ship
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2

Mass: 380,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
16 Large Pulse Laser
24 Medium Pulse Laser
3 Heavy NPPC
16 NL55
4 Medium NPPC
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name: Alpha Class Transport Ship
Mass: 380,000 tons

Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 68,400.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 9) 171,950.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 3,800.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3) 49.00
Structural Integrity: 44 16,720.00
Total Heat Sinks: 2,660 Double 2,246.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 18,360.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 950.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (705 days supply) 1,498.50
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (328 total armor pts) 304.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 63
Fore-Left/Right: 54/54
Aft-Left/Right: 54/54
Aft: 49

Cargo:
Bay 1: Cluster Command Center (1) 3,000.00
Bay 2: Satelite Launch Bay (1) with 2 doors 3,000.00
Satellite Hold (144) 288.00
Bay 3: Small Craft (15) with 3 doors 3,000.00
Bay 4: Cargo (2) with 2 doors 16,864.50
Bay 5: Repair Bay (1) 5,000.00

DropShip Capacity: 8 Docking Hardpoints 8,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 5: (5-meter diameter) 250.00
Escape Pods: 110 (7 tons each) 770.00

Crew and Passengers:
50 Officers (30 minimum) 500.00
90 Crew (71 minimum) 630.00
50 Gunners (30 minimum) 350.00
30 1st Class Passengers 300.00
30 2nd Class Passengers 210.00
75 Steerage Passengers 375.00
25 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals 175.00
75 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Large Pulse Laser Nose 4(36) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser 12 6.00
3 Heavy NPPC Nose 45 45 45 45 675 9,000.00
2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
2 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 4(36) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser 24 12.00
2 NL55 FL/R 11 11 11 11 340 4,400.00
2 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 4(36) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser 24 12.00
2 Medium NPPC L/RBS 18 18 18 18 540 7,200.00
2 NL55 L/RBS 11 11 11 11 340 4,400.00
2 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 4(36) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser 24 12.00
2 NL55 AL/R 11 11 11 11 340 4,400.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Aft 4(36) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser 12 6.00
2 NL55 Aft 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (5.00%) 19,000.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: Heat: 2,831 380,000.00
Tons Left: .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 25,852,380,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 55,579
Cost per BV: 465,146.55
Weapon Value: 29,920 (Ratio = .54)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,837; MRV = 1,681; LRV = 1,221; ERV = 489
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 532,375
(75,093 Structure, 380,445 Life Support, 76,837 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 256,570 (48% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable

fitzgerald · « **Reply #4 on:** November 07, 2013, 04:24:40 AM »

So here's my suggestion for the Alpha Class.

Not very fast (2/3), lightly armed (16 NL55's and 16 AR10's), lightly armored, the Alpha Class is designed to transport a Cluster to a target.

Not engage other warships to gain its commander glory.

Even it's Capital Weapons are designed purely to mulch any ASF that seek to swarm it.

Additionally by adding a Naval Comm Scanner Suite the Cluster HQ can gain high resolution intelligence on the situation on the ground.

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                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Alpha Class 
Tech:              Clan / 3067
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              350,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            850 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,200 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       2
Maximum Thrust:    3
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
   16 NL55
   44 Large Pulse Laser
   84 Medium Pulse Laser
   16 AR10 Launcher

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Class/Model/Name:  Alpha Class 
Mass:              350,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                       42,000.
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 2
      Maximum Thrust: 3
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 8)                158,375.
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               3,500.
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3)                                 48.
Structural Integrity: 45                                            15,750.
Total Heat Sinks:    1,500 Double                                    1,166.
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  15,300.
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:                875.
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .
Food & Water:  (478 days supply)                                     1,360.
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (377 total armor pts)             315.
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                 73
   Fore-Left/Right:                   62/62
   Aft-Left/Right:                    62/62
   Aft:                                  56

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                   17,500.
   Bay 2:  Cluster Command HQ (1)                                    3,000.
   Bay 3:  Satellite Launch Bay (1) with 2 doors                     3,000.
   Bay 4:  Press Repair Facil. (66,655 T Capy, 1 door)               5,000.
   Bay 5:  Small Craft (15) with 6 doors                             3,000.

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (120-meter diameter)                               400.
Escape Pods:  95 (7 tons each)                                         665.

Crew and Passengers:
     35 Officers (29 minimum)                                          350.
     80 Crew (80 minimum)                                              560.
     54 Gunners (54 minimum)                                           378.
     50 1st Class Passengers                                           500.
    100 2nd Class Passengers                                           700.
     25 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                        175.
     75 Bay Personnal                                                  525.
     25 Repair Bay Technicians                                         175.
     50 Cluster Command Staff                                          500.
     75 Bay Personnel                                                     .

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mas
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4 NL55                     Nose        22     22     22     22  340  4,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
4 AR10 (60 KW, 60 WS, 60 B)FL/R         *      *      *      *  160 16,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 NL55                     L/RBS       22     22     22     22  680  8,800.
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 AR10 (60 KW, 60 WS, 60 B)AL/R         *      *      *      *  160 16,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 NL55                     Aft         22     22     22     22  340  4,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
1 Lot Spare Parts (5.00%)                                           17,500.
1 Naval Comm Scanner Suite                                             500.
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TOTALS:                                            Heat: 2,456     350,000.
Tons Left:                                                                .

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        22,795,794,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      65,938
Cost per BV:       345,715.58
Weapon Value:      39,738 (Ratio = .60)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 2,421;  MRV = 2,336;  LRV = 1,310;  ERV = 440
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 418,538
                   (72,446 Structure, 254,288 Life Support, 91,804 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 207,967  (50% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable

masterarminas · « **Reply #5 on:** November 07, 2013, 12:41:33 PM »

I like both of them, Shadow Wraith and Fitzgerald. The addition of the Naval Comm/Scanner Suite was inspired, Fitz, but there is just one problem: the Repair Bay is NOT supposed to be a ship facility. It is a repair/maintenance facility for the Clusters 'Mechs, Elementals, and Fighters!

Thanks again, guys!

MA

fitzgerald · « **Reply #6 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:23:10 PM »

Thanks MA. NCSS are fun but pricey items.

On the repair bay I only used it to approximate the costs involved with actually having such a facility on board.

Habit from playing Hero I suppose, you cant get something useful for nothing and an site repair facility that can pull off every thing but fullout factory rebuilds (only because it would take too long) is handy to have.

masterarminas · « **Reply #7 on:** November 07, 2013, 07:58:27 PM »

fitzgerald · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2013, 08:10:15 PM »

When works done I'll recalculate with a no charge repair

and repost.

Edit: Here's the slightly cheaper version with a 1 C-Bill Repair Bay

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                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Alpha Class 
Tech:              Clan / 3067
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              350,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            850 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,200 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       2
Maximum Thrust:    3
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
   16 NL55
   44 Large Pulse Laser
   84 Medium Pulse Laser
   16 AR10 Launcher

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Class/Model/Name:  Alpha Class 
Mass:              350,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                       42,000.
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 2
      Maximum Thrust: 3
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 8)                158,375.
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               3,500.
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3)                                 48.
Structural Integrity: 45                                            15,750.
Total Heat Sinks:    1,500 Double                                    1,166.
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  15,300.
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:                875.
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .
Food & Water:  (478 days supply)                                     1,360.
Hyperpulse Generator:                                                   50.
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (377 total armor pts)             315.
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                 73
   Fore-Left/Right:                   62/62
   Aft-Left/Right:                    62/62
   Aft:                                  56

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                   17,500.
   Bay 2:  Cluster Command HQ (1)                                    3,000.
   Bay 3:  Satellite Launch Bay (1) with 2 doors                     3,000.
   Bay 4:  Repair Bay (1)                                            5,000.
   Bay 5:  Small Craft (15) with 6 doors                             3,000.

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (120-meter diameter)                               400.
Escape Pods:  95 (7 tons each)                                         665.

Crew and Passengers:
     35 Officers (29 minimum)                                          350.
     80 Crew (80 minimum)                                              560.
     54 Gunners (54 minimum)                                           378.
     50 1st Class Passengers                                           500.
    100 2nd Class Passengers                                           700.
     25 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                        175.
     75 Bay Personnal                                                  525.
     25 Repair Bay Technicians                                         175.
     50 Cluster Command Staff                                          500.
     75 Bay Personnel                                                     .

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mas
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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4 NL55                     Nose        22     22     22     22  340  4,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Nose     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Nose     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
4 AR10 (60 KW, 60 WS, 60 B)FL/R         *      *      *      *  160 16,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        FL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       FL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 NL55                     L/RBS       22     22     22     22  680  8,800.
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       L/RBS    2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 AR10 (60 KW, 60 WS, 60 B)AL/R         *      *      *      *  160 16,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
2 Large Pulse Laser        AL/R     2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   40     24.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       AL/R     2(21)  2(21)     --     --   24     12.
4 NL55                     Aft         22     22     22     22  340  4,400.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
2 Large Pulse Laser        Aft      2(20)  2(20)  2(20)     --   20     12.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
3 Medium Pulse Laser       Aft      2(21)  2(21)     --     --   12      6.
1 Lot Spare Parts (5.00%)                                           17,500.
1 Naval Comm Scanner Suite                                             500.
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TOTALS:                                            Heat: 2,456     350,000.
Tons Left:                                                                .

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        21,462,692,002 C-Bills
Battle Value:      65,938
Cost per BV:       325,498.07
Weapon Value:      39,738 (Ratio = .60)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 2,421;  MRV = 2,336;  LRV = 1,310;  ERV = 440
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 418,538
                   (72,446 Structure, 254,288 Life Support, 91,804 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 207,967  (50% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable

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