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How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« on: May 29, 2012, 12:35:46 AM »
I don't really have time for this, but I'm fleshing out an idea for an unusual crossover: Btech and the novel Cien Años de Soledad. Strange, I know. But the storytelling potential is irresistable.

The very rough start: In the aftermath of Operation Chieftain and the liberation of Terra herself, Aurelio had a dream; Towards that dream he bets it all and acquires a Newgrange class warship. Broken and derelict as a result of Caspar drones, the dead hull is purchased for a song. Helped by Melquíades, from the embryonic ComStar and a colleague of Jerome Blake, Aurelio pours all of his company's resources into the project, as well as his family. In the end, it consumes him, but the family continues the grand work.

The story of the ship is the story of the family as it journeys between the stars. A community springs up, grows, develops, and experiences the universe on board Macondo.

Too silly? It seemed like a good idea last night over a few beers  :P

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Class/Model/Name:  Newgrange Colony Ship
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 2783
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              2,300,000 tons
Hull:              Custom Modification
K-F Drive System:  KF King XX
Length:            2,630 meters
Sail Diameter:     3,000 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       1
Maximum Thrust:    2
Armor Type:        Commercial Plate Standard
Armament:          None
Manufacturer:   Titan Yards
  Location:     Terra
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Class/Model/Name:  Newgrange Colony Ship
Mass:              2,300,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      138,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 1
      Maximum Thrust: 2
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 44)             1,040,750.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 8)                                             145.00
Structural Integrity: 25                                            57,500.00
Total Heat Sinks:    787 Single                                        217.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  10,200.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              5,750.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Armor Type:  Standard  (478 total armor pts)                         1,149.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                 83
   Fore-Left/Right:                   76/76
   Aft-Left/Right:                    76/76
   Aft:                                  91

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Press Repair Facil. (700,000 T Capy, 1 door)             52,500.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (72) with 6 doors                            14,400.00
           Cargo (1)                                                10,000.00
   Bay 3:  factory module (1) with 1 door                          250,000.00
           BattleMechs (12)                                          1,800.00
   Bay 4:  Cargo (1) with 22 doors                                  85,689.00

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (1230-meter diameter)                            2,000.00
Life Boats:  600 (7 tons each)                                       4,200.00
Escape Pods:  600 (7 tons each)                                      4,200.00

Crew and Passengers:
    150 Officers (130 minimum)                                       1,500.00
    650 Crew (355 minimum)                                           6,500.00
 18,000 1st Class Passengers                                       180,000.00
 60,000 2nd Class Passengers                                       420,000.00
  1,000 Steerage Passengers                                          5,000.00
    500 Marines                                                      2,500.00
    384 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
none
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TOTALS:                                                Heat: 0   2,300,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        21,786,180,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      19,545
Cost per BV:       1,114,667.69
Weapon Value:      0 (Ratio = .00)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 0;  MRV = 0;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 4,387,751
                   (103,606 Structure, 4,276,275 Life Support, 7,870 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 950,950  (22% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable


A few quick notes:
    -The repair bay is the same weight as the original, but making it pressurized reduced th capacity to 700,000t. Still pretty impressive.
    -Part of the fluff is that grav decks were salvaged from Olympus class stations, hence their size. Likewise, civilians aren't likely to have access to advanced armor types, so standard plating was used. The engine is smaller as part of the story, a proper replacement couldn't be found.

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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 12:59:46 AM »
Nothing is too silly except maybe watching an Ice Hellion trying to roller blade.
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 07:22:13 AM »
Nice travelling city, bringing their repair shop into a system would likely be a welcome sight

I'd maybe give it a couple of conventional Large Lasers in each arc just for anti-asteroid defense

I know the Mechs or Small craft could technically do it but the lasers would likely give them a bit more peace of mind
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 10:09:21 AM »
I'd describe the damage it sustained at the hands of the drones, and the time period when it was salvaged/repaired. That would certainly frame your modifications to the ship and maybe change a little? I'd also love to know how this thing survived the Succession Wars intact.

Basically, I want more. Please.

See, I asked nicely.  :D
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 05:59:58 AM »
Quote from: Gabriel on May 29, 2012, 12:59:46 AM
Nothing is too silly except maybe watching an Ice Hellion trying to roller blade.

We don't need roller blades, we are Ice Hellions.

And it sounds quite interesting, mixing Battletech with more traditional Sci-Fi exploration shows/books.
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 10:38:28 AM »
The cargo capacity is a bit low for a ship of this size and function. 85.000 tons for parts, raw materials, storage and consumables for 80.000 people. Scrap marines and bay crew, other than noting the size of each, if they live permanently in space they will have the same accommodations as the rest of the crew.
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 02:56:39 AM »
Here is a modified version of your colony ship.
I added some defense weapons as well as added supplies(food and water) for the crew and passengers.
I reduced your passenger load and increased your cargo capacity.

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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name:  Colony Ship 
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              2,300,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            2,630 meters
Sail Diameter:     3,000 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       1
Maximum Thrust:    2
Armor Type:        Standard
Armament:         
   10 Large Laser
   22 Small Laser
Manufacturer:   Titan Yards
  Location:     Terra
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Class/Model/Name:  Colony Ship 
Mass:              2,300,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass 
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      138,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 1
      Maximum Thrust: 2
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 44)             1,040,750.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 8)                                             145.00
Structural Integrity: 25                                            57,500.00
Total Heat Sinks:    787 Single                                        217.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                  10,200.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              5,750.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Food & Water:  (300 days supply)                                    81,990.00
Armor Type:  Standard  (478 total armor pts)                         1,149.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                 83
   Fore-Left/Right:                   76/76
   Aft-Left/Right:                    76/76
   Aft:                                  91

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Press Repair Facil. (700,000 T Capy, 1 door)             52,500.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (72) with 6 doors                            14,400.00
           Cargo (1)                                                25,000.00
   Bay 3:  Factory Module (1) with 1 door                          250,000.00
   Bay 4:  Cargo (1) with 22 doors                                 125,000.00

DropShip Capacity:  6 Docking Hardpoints                             6,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4:  (1230-meter diameter)                            2,000.00
Life Boats:  600 (7 tons each)                                       4,200.00
Escape Pods:  600 (7 tons each)                                      4,200.00

Crew and Passengers:
    150 Officers (132 minimum)                                       1,500.00
    650 Crew (355 minimum)                                           4,550.00
     10 Gunners (6 minimum)                                             70.00
 12,000 1st Class Passengers                                       120,000.00
 40,000 2nd Class Passengers                                       280,000.00
  1,000 Steerage Passengers                                          5,000.00
    500 Marines                                                      2,500.00
    360 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Large Laser              Nose     2(16)  2(16)     --     --   16     10.00
2 Small Laser              Nose      1(6)     --     --     --    2      1.00
2 Large Laser              FL/R     2(16)  2(16)     --     --   32     20.00
2 Small Laser              FL/R      1(6)     --     --     --    4      2.00
2 Small Laser              FL/R      1(6)     --     --     --    4      2.00
2 Small Laser              L/RBS     1(6)     --     --     --    4      2.00
2 Large Laser              AL/R     2(16)  2(16)     --     --   32     20.00
2 Small Laser              AL/R      1(6)     --     --     --    4      2.00
2 Small Laser              AL/R      1(6)     --     --     --    4      2.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (2.93%)                                           67,318.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              Heat: 102   2,300,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        21,728,395,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      20,291
Cost per BV:       1,070,839.04
Weapon Value:      7,473 (Ratio = .37)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 134;  MRV = 58;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 3,086,686
                   (102,349 Structure, 2,975,575 Life Support, 8,762 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 1,809,000  (59% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable
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Re: How to refit a Newgrange yardship
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 09:19:47 PM »
damn, RL has a way of taking one away from Btech at a bad moment. If I had seen the replies here before...

If the cargo capacity seems low, then you read it right. It's supposed to be low, as part of the story, to reflect that the population grew into every nook and cranny over the years (and there are dropships to haul some cargo). I don't use HMPro in general; in HMAero, I never use the spare parts/food and water listings- it's already rolled into the general cargo. I agree on adding some anti-meteor lasers, though.

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And it sounds quite interesting, mixing Battletech with more traditional Sci-Fi exploration shows/books.

actually, this is mixing Btech with "magical realism;" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Hundred_Years_of_Solitude

(remove the more fantastic elements, and the Buendía family has a lot in common with the Steiner-Davions  :P )
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