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wacky Warship idea
« on: March 26, 2014, 02:22:57 AM »

What if there was an actual class ship for each of the warships in TRO 3057 and 3067? 

An interesting fan project might be to write the history of each of these vessels.  Did most all of them fight notable engagements in the Jihad?  Did any of them survive into the Dark Age?

Worthy idea or silly?



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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 06:15:31 AM »

What if there was an actual class ship for each of the warships in TRO 3057 and 3067? 

An interesting fan project might be to write the history of each of these vessels.  Did most all of them fight notable engagements in the Jihad?  Did any of them survive into the Dark Age?

Worthy idea or silly?

Can you expand on the idea a little? Do you mean like the "Notables" section from the old TROs? If so, I actually think WarShips would do really well under the new TRO entry style. Since the emphasis is back on the unit, and most WarShips are unique enough as is, we'd see some real character in newer entries IMO.

Neat idea.
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 06:18:18 AM »

WarShips would also be an ideal unit type (in the modern era, again due to limited numbers) to do the thing fans are always clamoring for: an official Quirks list for all units. In most of the other unit classes, the number of older designs lacking Quirks is far, far too large to make the project feasible. You might be able to pull it off with naval ships (JumpShips and DropShips included), though.
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 01:02:20 AM »

Knightmare:  To answer your question I had not really thought that much in detail about the format.  I wanted to run the general idea by other fans to see if it was  a decent idea before pursuing it further. 

My basic idea was:  stats, showing how the prototype is different than the production models.
history, including write-ups about the designers and test crew.
post-trial history if the prototype saw service. 

I only have newer TROs so I don't know exactly what about the older style you might be referring to. 

Dread Moore's idea about assigning the prototypes Quirks is a good one.



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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 10:21:02 AM »

Ah, I see what you're saying. You'd like to do a prototype or "first class" TRO of the various ships, or even a fan AU of the innumerable ships that were either never accepted or actually built? Actually, that could be a pretty cool TRO...especially since plenty of WarShip designs saw plenty of theoretical testing.


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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 04:07:53 PM »

I have a thought...

Really? Could you tell us more about it?
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 10:35:14 PM »

Actually, I was thinking about the advanced holographic and computer testing equipment the SLDF procurement office used to determine whether or not a WarShip was worth purchasing. While some design entries are written to make you feel like the SLDF was just shown a blueprint and said, "make a decision." Other ships felt like there was some serious testing that took place prior to laying the first keel—the Suffren Destroyer being one notable example.

I think a neat AU book would be one written in the 3090s Republic by a member of RAF's intelligence community—in conjunction with the Sanglamore Naval Academy—looking at the many prototype ships submitted to the Terran Hegemony and SLDF. These ancient schematics, recovered after the Jihad on Terra were carefully rebuilt and run through some of the same sophisticated holographic modeling and programming ComStar utilized on the Suffren. Each entry could be for an individual class/ship written in the style ds9guy described above.

Heck the naval academy students would be responsible for "battle testing" the designs in mock combat against their closest Inner Sphere or Clan contemporary WarShips or PWs.

It could be a pretty neat AU book.   
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 11:26:25 PM »

It does sound interesting experimental WS, DS and JS designs that never got off the drawing board.  It would likely be a book full of designs like the Enterprise.  Great start but unfortunately it got lost as it went along ultimately leading to its failure.
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 10:12:40 AM »

It does sound interesting experimental WS, DS and JS designs that never got off the drawing board.  It would likely be a book full of designs like the Enterprise.  Great start but unfortunately it got lost as it went along ultimately leading to its failure.

Something along those lines, but a "failed" design doesn't necessarily have to be a failure. We've been told that some designs were excepted for very specific reasons, like the number of DropShip collars, the engines, cost, etc. Who knows how many suitable designs were submitted to the procurement office, but never built?

That's the fun part about a book like this, you could mix and match truly "failed" designs with some that were very good, but ignored for one reason of another that happened to be pertinent at the time of submission.

If I was writing it and I wanted to make the book truly special, I'd run every design through MM against some canon vehicle—just like they'd do it at the academy. The results would form the basis for the "results" section in every entry.

If I had time, or if I could get MM to work on my Mac, I'd probably give this idea a go.
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 08:27:46 AM »

That's a great idea Knightmare.
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 01:54:18 PM »

Well, if someone was willing to run the MM side of things and go through the labor design process... :D
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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 08:37:52 PM »

One other question springs to mind:

IF there are one or more "Test units"  I.E.: one-off models built expressly for acceptance trials.  What happens to them if they are not selected for series production?

Are they sent to the breakers?  Sold off on the secondary (periphery) market?  Mothballed?

This could also apply to experimental refits of existing designs.  Units refitted expressly to test new technologies and/or new doctrines.   Are the failed/rejected units refitted back to standard configuration?  If not, what then?

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Re: wacky Warship idea
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 01:57:10 PM »

Typically they're recycled. A company can recoup some loss by recycling a failed design.
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