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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 04:52:26 PM »
But if you make them the keeper of the regimental honour, you could use them for "competitions" and duels against other honourable units (I know this sounds like the Clans but I am an Ice Hellion  8)).
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 04:05:14 PM »
True- it would make it interesting if the concept had survived to the Clan Invasion
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 09:27:32 PM »
I tend to believe that each Star League unit had a champion Gunslinger who would square off against any duelist which challenged his regiment. Information on General Kerensky from his bio and the SLSB lead me to this conclusion.

Now canon wise there were two institutions which served as Gunslinger academies. Aphros on Venus and the War Academy on Mars. I'll have to look at the details for the SLDF. For the Terrans I believe I solely gave this assignment to Mars.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2010, 10:55:51 AM »
Yup- the question is how Sinclair rebuilt the capability to train the Gunslingers.   

Wonder if more Gunslingers stayed or went on the Exodus?  I bet they also suffered disproportionate casualties during the War.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2010, 11:37:35 AM »
Hard to say but you could come up with a gap filling Gunslinger Program that existed during the Amaris Coup. Something makeshift that was setup during the Hegemony Campaign that is if you prioritize such training. It may have been deemed non essential to the recapture of Terra.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2010, 07:15:55 PM »
Nonessential to the main forces...  but the force protecting the Last Cameron would be doing everything possible to be as lethal as possible... 

The "War Academy of Apollo"?   Some sort of program near one of the Loyalist Training Camps...  hmmm... theres a story there.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2010, 09:44:36 PM »
Now you've got something Mutt.

The War Academy of Apollo has a certain ring to it even if it was an unofficial designation. Perhaps the SLDF renamed the Apollo Military Institute which was the Rim Worlds premier military academy (Periphery SB 1st Edition page 54) and turned it into the Provisional Military University of the Star League during the Coup.

You have a point about eventually restoring the Black Watch to protect the Last Cameron but that wasn't a sure thing. Is that possibility enough to justify the expense? I could see injured veterans serving as instructors but what is the reason.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2010, 11:28:28 PM »
What about Kerensky's bodyguards?  Some sort of unit had to protect the SLDF High Command- potentially one as lethal as the Black Watch.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2010, 01:10:00 PM »
Gunslingers served as duelists in the Hidden Wars, I don't think the Coup would have been the perfect place/time to train such high potential fighters.
I would have focused on producing more above average warriors rather a few elite ones (that can be nuked or destroyed while trying to get on planet).
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2010, 04:28:10 PM »
Quote from: muttley on April 06, 2010, 11:14:23 PM
I don't know.  In the latest Black tiger's- the regimental CO is appointing one.  This pushes the gunslinger more to the keeper of the regimental honor than a supremely skilled duelist.
Gracie already had her six guns, the regimental gunslinger was an Honor Title (and also a way of denoting B's status as a teacher in someways, just like Don Roberto, his predecessor was.), but the Tigers have several who went through the training, of those a few Gracie, B, and a couple of others passed.
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2010, 05:39:16 PM »
Aha- interesting news.

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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2010, 11:21:15 AM »
not all the Gunslinger's left in the exodus, (Blue Star Irregulars anyone)etc... :)
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2010, 02:16:18 PM »
True- but the organized, systematic training program was wiped out on Mars.   The question is will the Republic continue the process, and if so how & where.

Ironic if the War Academy of Apollo becomes the center of gunslinger training...
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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2010, 11:16:21 AM »
Quote from: Serack on April 13, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
not all the Gunslinger's left in the exodus, (Blue Star Irregulars anyone)etc... :)

They had the Blue Star but I don't remember this made them Gunslingers.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: So where do Gunslingers come from...
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2010, 07:16:44 PM »
Well in this universe, a lot of them probably stayed with the units making up the Last Cameron's forces...

but new ones?

Apprenticing to the Regimental Gunslinger (Jedi Padawan/Mr Miyagi)
Codified schooling (War Academy of Mars)

or go Kuritan/Highlander/Clanner- kill the old one & take his title ;)
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