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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 11:52:10 AM »

Alright. I have a couple of Atlases, Highlander IICs (which I use as regular Highlanders - I think they're better looking sculpts), Black Knights, Tempests, Lynxes, Wasps, Archers, Kintaros and an odd Lancelot. I also have a Bombardier, Shootist, Excalibur, Marauder, Warhammer, Mercury, Catapult and I found an odd Hussar. I've also managed to locate a couple of Rhino and Puma Tanks.

I have more, but there's no way to lay my hands on them for the time being. I haven't purchased any new minis in a long time, so if I want to create a more modern WoB force I'm going to have to buy them. (Which I'm all for!)

I'm going to create a Company based on what you have and give you a sense of how I'd play them out.  Based on SLDF choices.

Assault Lance
Highlander
Atlas
Shootist
Black Knight

Heavy Lance
Black Knight
Marauder
Archer
Warhammer

Cavalry Lance
Lynx
Kintaro
Spartan
Lynx (Kintaro) - Depending on NARC force or not

Pursuit Lance
Hussar
Lancelot
Spector
Mongoose

First off, depending on the scenario, you either select the Assault or Heavy lance.  Assault for defensive engagements, the Heavy for offensive ones.  Either way, they will comprise the center piece of your company.  The Cavalry and Pursuit lances are to be used in similar fashions.  Set up on either flank, they keep their move mods high, poking and prodding with long ranged weaponry, closing in for the kill on isolated or heavily damaged targets.  Meanwhile, you trudge your center piece forward to the main fray.  Once the enemy is in your sweet spots, you inundate them with targets, flooding them with your Cavalry lance and sweep your Pursuit lance behind their battle lines, looking for backshots or to chase down damaged foes.

Main concept - Use PPCs and Large Lasers to open holes, then crit seek with SRMs and MLs as your Cav and Pursuit close in to finish them off. 

In the Cav lance, decide if you are going to be a NARC force, as more NARC pods the better to supplement your LRM support.

Additionally, and this will be expanded upon in an article dedicated to the use of lighter assets, you do not use them like in the fluff and novels.  In the novels, the lights are always getting engaged first, and are scouts of the main army.  While that makes sense in the real world, in the tabletop game, light and fast assets are not to be sprinted forward at the enemy, but held in reserve to provided surgicial striking at a time of need.  That is why you keep the on the perimeter of the engagement or hunt down isolated targets until they are needed for the main fray. 

Another thing...identify priority targets, and ensure you continue to beat on those targets until dead.  Then you move on to the next target.  Always better to overkill than to suffer another round of fire from said 'Mech.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 04:19:36 PM »

I would slightly disagree with you.
I think the most important part to get a real feeling of a SLDF unit is unity.
Perhaps not at the scale of a company (otherwise it might be boring) but rather at the lance one.

Also I still think that the classical Command, Fire and Recon Lances are still good ideas.
To be closer to your ideas, just replace Recon by Cavalry and Command by Assault or Heavy depending on what you want to do.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 06:28:06 PM »

Totally forgot to list the Spartan in that listing.

What about two mixed Level IIs? What 'Mechs and/or vehicles would be beneficial to round something like that out? (I'm thinking I'll be playing/painting mostly WoB from now on.)
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 08:43:38 PM »

Do yourself a favor and get yourself some Medium 'Mechs.  Your force too focused on either end of the weight spectrum!  It's like your Drac or something.  The Lynx is a great start.  Now, add in Crabs & Starslayers!
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 09:49:46 PM »

A couple of Crabs and a couple of Starslayers. Ok. Got it. What else?

Any thoughts on that those two mixed Level IIs I was talking about?
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 02:00:54 AM »

A couple of Crabs and a couple of Starslayers. Ok. Got it. What else?
Phoenix Hawks and Griffins and Wolverines, oh my!
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2011, 02:10:38 AM »

A couple of Crabs and a couple of Starslayers. Ok. Got it. What else?

Any thoughts on that those two mixed Level IIs I was talking about?

Let me think a little.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2011, 09:43:21 AM »

Yeah, I'll have to look at all the Wobbie refits, faction specific 'Mechs, etc.  Thoughts on C3i?
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2011, 03:06:11 PM »

Haven't used it. If it's worth having I'm all ears.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2011, 03:21:29 PM »

C3i is a god-send if you like group tactics.  It is by far the best way to concentrate fire without special ammo needs.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2011, 04:21:04 PM »

C3i is a god-send if you like group tactics.  It is by far the best way to concentrate fire without special ammo needs.

I do enjoy concentrated fire.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2011, 04:27:24 PM »

Well, cliffnotes on C3i.  Basically assume each units 1-6 has C3i.  They share targeting data.  Say you want to kill target A.  You position your fastest unit, say its a Wraith that you shoehorned a C3i into.  You jump your 7, get your 4 mod, and get in their butt.  Now all the units in your lance are at 1 hex range to the guy effective, even if they are 10, 20 hexes away.  Needless to say, a few mobile and durable spots allows your fire support to be extremely effective.  Downside, ECM cuts it off, so you need to take out all the ECM'ers or provide enough ECCM to keep your network up.  C3i is better than standard C3 because there is no Master.  You loose a unit, the network stays up.  If standard C3 loses the Master, the whole thing is busted.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2011, 04:47:41 PM »

Ah yes, the C3Master.  Always gonna be the first mech to die.  Shame they we always Assault mechs usually.
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2011, 04:52:35 PM »

Truly, the only 'Mechs to revolutionize old-and-busted C3 systems outside the Draconis Combine are Shengli Arms' very own Lao Hu and Yu Huang. 8) One for the open field, the other for the rougher stuff.

(I wonder how the Fennec will fare after the Jihad?)
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Re: Unit TO&E Question
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2011, 04:55:54 PM »

Don't forget the Piotrowski's Predators' Shadow Hawk Customer C3 Master!  Sure it's not canon, but damn is it effective.
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