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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2014, 09:20:21 AM »
Hi everyone,

it's been a while, but I'm back with some stuff to fill the void left by the ongoing Catalyst hiatus. :)

Over the past few months, I continually worked on an updated and extended edition of my original Fan-TRO 3145 LyrCom Suppl, with updated fluff and stats, many new NTNU style entries and of course also new units altogether, artworks by Rudy Valle and Matt Plog, record sheets and MegaMek and corresponding .gif-files (at least for most the main new units of the TRO) included.

I hope you can enjoy my Supplemental for reading, gaming or whatever. :)

Critique is welcome and encouraged, although please refrain from mentioning that it is all in reversed order. ;) It was an intentional and deliberate decision back then and reverting it to go along the traditional Catalyst way of doing things would have been way too stressful. Hope you can enjoy it nonetheless. :)
In case you find any errors, also don't hesitate to mention them as I could only check that much myself.

On a side note, many of the Record Sheets for the new Omni configs section are still missing. I was getting sick of doing Record Sheets, but I will most likely add them later (aka in a few weeks or months).

That's it on my behalf. Here is the download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/38kbu5rkk4x55b4/FAN_TRO_3145_LyrCom_Supplemental_extended.zip

You can also find the link in the updated original post of this thread.
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2014, 05:38:45 PM »
Looks nice!  Will go over it when I have more time.  Keep it up!
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2014, 11:55:17 PM »
Its nice to see an extended version of this.  Makes me pine for those olden days of Mech design ;)
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2014, 01:56:53 AM »
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2014, 03:49:47 AM »
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2014, 06:19:52 AM »
First off let me say again for the record that I am not that much of a Dark Age fan.

However, this fan project is very interesting. The art you have on new designs is excellent and the book format is fantastic. I would recommend some cover art and you could then fool the pants off of some cause this appears professional quality. Nice job!

Keep up the good work!
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2014, 07:09:09 AM »
Thanks everyone, I appreciate it :) Hope you enjoy the read or any possible games.
I hope the language isn't too far off, as I'm still not a native speaker.  ;D


Ah, well... the cover art... Yes, I actually thought about commissioning one, but believe me, they are so much more expensive than the regular line art, I figured I should rather get two or three more units (depending on the artist) done with the money.


Speaking of which, any feedback on the units themselves? A tad too munchkin? I felt especially the Rheingold was maybe a bit over the top compared to the much weaker canon designs. However I simply tried to cover all the areas the LC is currently lacking in when it comes to aerospace in a single ship. So it had to be more than just "okay".

As for the Pest I'd really be interested if it works as in theory, meaning being almost impossible to hit if played right.


btw, in case that is really you, good to read you again, GrayJaguar. I still regard my fine-tuned result of our Berserker II collaboration (aka Yggdrasil) back then to be the most game-breaking Mech design I've ever seen. ;)
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2014, 09:37:57 AM »
Quote from: Fenris on October 22, 2014, 07:09:09 AM
Thanks everyone, I appreciate it :) Hope you enjoy the read or any possible games.
I hope the language isn't too far off, as I'm still not a native speaker.  ;D


Ah, well... the cover art... Yes, I actually thought about commissioning one, but believe me, they are so much more expensive than the regular line art, I figured I should rather get two or three more units (depending on the artist) done with the money.


Speaking of which, any feedback on the units themselves? A tad too munchkin? I felt especially the Rheingold was maybe a bit over the top compared to the much weaker canon designs. However I simply tried to cover all the areas the LC is currently lacking in when it comes to aerospace in a single ship. So it had to be more than just "okay".

As for the Pest I'd really be interested if it works as in theory, meaning being almost impossible to hit if played right.


btw, in case that is really you, good to read you again, GrayJaguar. I still regard my fine-tuned result of our Berserker II collaboration (aka Yggdrasil) back then to be the most game-breaking Mech design I've ever seen. ;)

It really is me :D  Found my way over here while looking up some of the old designs I worked on.  As for game breaking... well yeah, the Yggdrasil *is* but that was kind of the point ;)

I did like the expansion into so many vehicles though there are a few thoughts I had on it:


1) If you want it to look more like a traditional TRO, you could put the order differently going Battle Armor, Vehicles Light Mechs, Medium Mechs, Heavy, Assault, and then AeroSpace.
2) I'd love to see some original AeroSpace designs for the Lyrans pop up or some more Mechs in the Medium and Heavy ranges
3) Keep it up, the alternate configuration settings are still a nice touch.  Love the choices for the Morgenstern
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2014, 10:08:21 AM »
Quote from: Gray Jaguar on October 22, 2014, 09:37:57 AM
It really is me :D  Found my way over here while looking up some of the old designs I worked on.  As for game breaking... well yeah, the Yggdrasil *is* but that was kind of the point ;)

I did like the expansion into so many vehicles though there are a few thoughts I had on it:


1) If you want it to look more like a traditional TRO, you could put the order differently going Battle Armor, Vehicles Light Mechs, Medium Mechs, Heavy, Assault, and then AeroSpace.
2) I'd love to see some original AeroSpace designs for the Lyrans pop up or some more Mechs in the Medium and Heavy ranges
3) Keep it up, the alternate configuration settings are still a nice touch.  Love the choices for the Morgenstern

Nah, I started out doing it in reverse order (tbh, don't even remember why exactly) and simply stuck with it ever since then. It would be a massive effort to reverse the order at this point, so I guess I'll just leave it as it is. Also I kinda like it by now. It's a neat little twist compared to the standard established by Catalyst/Wizkids/FASA.

Well, in fact I had one more Aerospace design in the pipeline, basically an IS Dark Age version of the Kirghiz, with 5/8 thrust, okay armor (no Eisensturm levels but still better than average and with good thresholds all-around) and no less than 3 HGRs and a Plasma Rifle as its prime config.
Sadly, Matt was shutting down "regular" commissions at that time to focus on the stuff commissioned by Catalyst.

The Morgenstern Sledgehammer or the Streak config? ;)
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PM »
Quote from: Fenris on October 22, 2014, 10:08:21 AM


The Morgenstern Sledgehammer or the Streak config? ;)

Streak Config.  Speaking of which, I have a Lyran AeroSpace model though that was neat.  Not sure if you were still around to see it.  The Sapphire 7/11 design.  I might just retype it up and post it again.  Hrm...
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2014, 03:26:03 PM »
This has been an enjoyable read! Good work!


Quote from: Fenris on October 22, 2014, 07:09:09 AM

Speaking of which, any feedback on the units themselves? A tad too munchkin?


Regarding your question about the units themselves: I think this is a topic where opinions can and will differ widely given different people's perceptions of what is "too much".

For me none of the units is "too much" per se. But that's just my 0,02 € cents.

Ciao
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2014, 11:12:17 PM »
Thanks for the expansion!
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2014, 06:10:17 AM »
Quote from: Gray Jaguar on October 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: Fenris on October 22, 2014, 10:08:21 AM


The Morgenstern Sledgehammer or the Streak config? ;)

Streak Config.  Speaking of which, I have a Lyran AeroSpace model though that was neat.  Not sure if you were still around to see it.  The Sapphire 7/11 design.  I might just retype it up and post it again.  Hrm...


Yeah, I think I remember it. An 11 thrust fighter would also be the only gap left in the Lyran ASF segment, besides the heavy attack bird I was talking about. But then one could just as easily make a Morgenstern II refit with an XL engine... hm.

Quote from: Hessian on October 22, 2014, 03:26:03 PM
This has been an enjoyable read! Good work!

Regarding your question about the units themselves: I think this is a topic where opinions can and will differ widely given different people's perceptions of what is "too much".

For me none of the units is "too much" per se. But that's just my 0,02 € cents.

Ciao
Hessian

Thanks, that's a relief, because compared to the often intentionally weakened canon designs many of mine simply don't have these intentional "quirks" to them. There was some inner resistance to make them any less optimized than I could make them. :D
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Re: Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2015, 08:20:32 AM »
Good day to you all, long time no see. :)

Just wanted to share the final version of my Fan-TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth Supplemental.

It contains some minor fixes in fluff, stats and record sheets, a few adjustments that were necessary due to XTRO Republic, still no record sheets for the the omni configs for canon mechs that came with the original extended edition (and there never will be, I'm afraid as I just don't have the time and motivation to do 'em), and a new unit. Yes, you read that right, I added the final piece to this TRO, again with great artwork from Matt Plog.

Hope, you enjoy it.


Go forth now and download your own copy :)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/12jaovfttpam1n6/Fan_TRO_3145_LyrCom_Supplemental_extended_final.zip



Oh, almost forgot, a special thanks to Skiltao and Gray Jaguar for their help.



Any feedback is most welcome.
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« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2015, 02:04:45 PM »
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