Well, both will be F2P online models(think World of Tanks or League of legends) and the great thing about tactics, is it's turned based on 3d hexmaps. I am really, REALLY loving that idea. Like taking CBT and mixing in a little bit of Warmachine(players take turns as a whole, rather than unit initiative). Could be VERY entertaining. Worst comes to worse, though, try them out when they launch, get a feel for free.