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General BattleTech => General Discussion => Topic started by: marauder648 on October 04, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
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A Light quadvee
(https://i.imgur.com/doV2Yht.jpg)
And an assault scale version.
(https://i.imgur.com/5LbA3hU.jpg)
The main change coming is that the assault will have tracks.
Anansi Prime
Clan advanced
35 tons
BV: 1,197
Cost: 5,762,138 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 210 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Cockpit: QuadVee Cockpit
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 62 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 115/127 (Ferro-Fibrous)
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 11 16
Center Torso (rear) 4
Right Torso 8 11
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 8 11
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 8 14
Front Left Leg 8 14
Rear Right Leg 8 14
Rear Left Leg 8 14
Weapon Loc Heat
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Medium Pulse Laser LT 4
Medium Pulse Laser RT 4
ER Medium Laser LT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Phaeton Prime
Clan advanced
85 tons
BV: 2,315
Cost: 22,063,409 C-bills
Movement: 4/6
Engine: 340 XL
Heat Sinks: 12 [24]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 138 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 279/279
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 27 41
Center Torso (rear) 13
Right Torso 18 27
Right Torso (rear) 9
Left Torso 18 27
Left Torso (rear) 9
Front Right Leg 18 36
Front Left Leg 18 36
Rear Right Leg 18 36
Rear Left Leg 18 36
Weapon Loc Heat
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Gauss Rifle LT 1
ER Medium Laser LT 5
ER Medium Laser LT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
SRM 6 LT 4
SRM 6 RT 4
Ammo Loc Shots
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Gauss Ammo LT 8
Gauss Ammo CT 8
SRM 6 Ammo RT 15
Equipment Loc
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Tracks RLL
ECM Suite HD
Any thoughts/comments?
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I like them both, nice to see something like that fleshed out fully.....
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I agree.
Tell me, Marauder, why not use ATMs? Just cost/tonnage?
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A three wheeler? Interesting
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Weight and space is the main reason behind the lack of ATMs, you need at least 2 tons of ammo for the system to be useful, and then it becomes at least 3 crits taken up and so on.
Heavier quadvee's have the mass but its still a race for crits to fit them, and lighter quadvee's are a nightmare as you have less space and tonnage to work with because you NEED to use Endo or ferro or both and then you have no crit space.
And wheels make it worse, because for some unknowable reason, wheels are heavier than tracks in the B-tech universe, 10% heavier. If the light had tracks, then you'd have 2 more tons to play with. But because I like the look of the three wheeler (originally both were to have tracks) then thats what i'll go with :)
And looking at the light, I had to fatten it up to make it 40 tons so it can actually carry things.
Anansi Prime
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,348
Cost: 7,141,400 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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Medium Pulse Laser LT 4
Medium Pulse Laser RT 4
ER Medium Laser LT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
Clan TAG HD 0
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
ECM Suite CT
Standard None
Anansi A
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,424
Cost: 6,878,900 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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ER Large Laser LT 12
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Small Laser LT 2
ER Small Laser HD 2
ER Small Laser CT 2
ER Small Laser CT 2
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Standard None
Anansi B
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,243
Cost: 7,156,100 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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Improved Heavy Large Laser LT 18
SRM 6 RT 4
SRM 6 RT 4
Ammo Loc Shots
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SRM 6 Ammo RT 15
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Standard None
Anansi C
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,074
Cost: 6,621,650 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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LRM 10 LT 4
LRM 10 RT 4
ER Small Laser LT 2
ER Small Laser RT 2
Ammo Loc Shots
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LRM 10 Ammo LT 12
LRM 10 Ammo RT 12
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Standard None
Anansi D
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,406
Cost: 7,193,900 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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AP Gauss Rifle LT 1
AP Gauss Rifle LT 1
AP Gauss Rifle LT 1
AP Gauss Rifle LT 1
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
Ammo Loc Shots
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AP Gauss Rifle Ammo LT 40
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Standard None
Active Probe HD
Anansi E
Clan advanced
40 tons
BV: 1,227
Cost: 6,861,050 C-bills
Movement: 6/9
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 75 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/153
Internal Armor
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Center Torso 12 16
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 10 13
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 10 13
Left Torso (rear) 4
Front Right Leg 10 16
Front Left Leg 10 16
Rear Right Leg 10 16
Rear Left Leg 10 16
Weapon Loc Heat
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ER Medium Laser LT 5
ER Medium Laser RT 5
SRM 6 LT 4
SRM 6 RT 4
ER Small Laser LT 2
ER Small Laser RT 2
Ammo Loc Shots
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SRM 6 Ammo LT 15
SRM 6 Ammo RT 15
Equipment Loc
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Wheels RLL
Standard None
But even this is still basically slow and undergunned. Quadvees impose a LOT of penalties.
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And RE ATM's yeah its just weight, lets take an ATM-6 as an outlier. Thats 3.5 tons, you then add at least 2 tons of ammo to take some use of the weapons flexibility. Or 3 for the full hog. Thats 6.5 tons and 6 crits that you basically can't afford to give up.
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Thought so.
I like em, although I'd switch over to 5-packs - I've found more use for them, particularly with the indirect fire option, than SRMs.
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It does look interesting. Are you putting into a home-made TRO?
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It does look interesting. Are you putting into a home-made TRO?
heh, not enough Mech's for that :)
Oh and a wee update
(https://i.imgur.com/nIeX2JI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lRQT2A9.jpg)
In the image, the assault is deliberately squatting down, it would ride higher up normally like the light is, but it can also move in this squatted position to reduce its profile.
Any thoughts?
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Have it squatting behind a rock to defend against incoming fire...?
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I think they'd both move mostly squatted down the light would have a very strange walk like that
I really like both though the trike is unique which is cool
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Is it legal by canon rules to have a 3 wheeler Quadvee?
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Is it legal by canon rules to have a 3 wheeler Quadvee?
Pay the crit space how you arrange the set up is your choice
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The trike look is more just a visual thing, its still perfectly within the rules. :)
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...They ruled it was ok for a picture of the Tortoise II BA to have wheels*. Take it from there.
*I saw that, and knew - Assault BA with a 5 ton trailer was going to make an appearance in my AU.