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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2012, 11:48:48 PM »

Spot on MadCapellan except you ignore the obvious conclusion that lead to the creation of the Blakist Protectorate and the Republic of the Sphere in canon. The Hegemony worlds became a battle ground for the Houses. Ground zero for the Succession Wars. Their central locations became prime targets for enemies to lash out at each other which breed more destruction. These central worlds of humanity went from the highest population centers at the nexus of almost every trade route to bombed out shells worse then Amaris left in his wake. Continual fighting over these worlds lead to resentment against the Great Houses by a people who remembered far better days of self rule. Enter the Blakist and Stone - the results speak for themselves.

True, but you literally just went fast forward two centuries, with what - something like 10-15 generations of people in-between and a handful of additional wars. (One generation being roughly 20 years. That might be a little generous by the 31st century.)

And your rational is not an obvious conclusion. The people of the old-Hegemony don't "remember" squat. They do however, see the bombed out, irradiated cities of their forefathers on worlds still habitable. A quick glance out the window says it all.

Joining the Word of the Republic is the simple matter of deciding what the next, best option for a prosperous future will be.

Remember, the Protectorate didn't just spring into bloom from the Chaos March overnight. The Blakists had to woo these worlds into the fold.

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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2012, 06:33:07 AM »

Phrase of the day: Enlistment with the best future.

...or else we irradiate your children.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2012, 07:10:40 AM »

Phrase of the day: Enlistment with the best future.

...or else we irradiate your children.

Again?
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2012, 07:34:29 AM »

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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2012, 08:23:09 AM »

Phrase of the day: Enlistment with the best future.

...or else we irradiate your children.

Well, not quite. More like we'll black bag your leaders and their families for "reeducation."

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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2012, 09:20:40 AM »

Wow, you should get a job in PR.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2012, 09:51:13 AM »

The Word could use a good PR man.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2012, 10:30:49 AM »

Well since the canon BT universe ended somewhere around 3060 all of your further speculation is moot (and anyone who says otherwise will personally be visited by me and a sock full of quarters no matter what continent you may happen to inhabit).  That being said I do find it odd how canon materials glossed over so much to get to the SWs and the drive towards the 3025 era.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2012, 01:20:22 PM »

The restoration of the TH would have made much more sense if the Wobblers had actually won the Jihad - and then been kicked out by a popular rising aided by C* and the houses. That the houses squashed to Wobblers and waded through oceans of blood to conquer Terra itself only to meekly hand over what they had spent centuries fighting for to a suspect nobody is a pitifully poor plot, probably the worst since the Civil war and the Exodus.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2012, 02:18:33 PM »

Yeah especially handing over Terra to a Davion should of droven the capellans nuts at least. Kerensky and Moses look nothing alike.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2012, 07:03:11 PM »

And I never understood why the Houses handed more than just the old Hegemony worlds to Stone?
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2012, 08:04:01 PM »

Cause the writers wanted them to. ;)

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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2012, 08:21:48 PM »

They were so so drunk.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2012, 10:04:29 PM »

He said Federated Suns, not Lyran Commonwealth. :P

And I agree, Tak.  The Civil War, and the whole Katherine storyline for that matter, didn't make any since to me.  It was almost like the writers had written themselves into a corner with the Clan Wars winding down and just threw something together to keep things going until they could come up with something better.  They then never got around to coming up with something better.
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Re: Death of the TH
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2012, 11:06:41 PM »

Spot on MadCapellan except you ignore the obvious conclusion that lead to the creation of the Blakist Protectorate and the Republic of the Sphere in canon.

That conclusion was very far from obvious.  It required over two-hundred years of almost total war during which the Great Houses went from looking like the better option to looking like the biggest problem, the collapse of the Steiner-Davion Hegemon, and the deliberate, forcible manipulation of the Word of Blake, wherein the stamped out all opposition to their "new" Hegemony, the Blake Protectorate.  Stone's little charade is little more than a byproduct of the Word of Blake's persperation.

Off topic Rant - The canon storyline after Victor's return from the Great Refusal is just too dumb for me. Katherine has no shot of taking over the Federated Suns sorry and the Word of Blake buildup is just as unlikely. Been working on a sensible alternative since!  ;D

Yvonne screwing up, Victor realising he's no good at leading and abdicating, and Katherine being a conniving ruthless bitch all made plenty enough sense in the big picture, the real problems with it are the smaller details where things weren't really established as well as they should have been.  If, for example, someone had bothered to establish some military service in the background of Katherine, her siezing of the Federated Suns throne might seem more legitimate. 
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