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If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« on: April 21, 2011, 06:17:04 PM »

Just curious, as we have so many AU people here. 

Assume the location of the Clan Homeworlds best suits your choice.

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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 06:26:38 PM »

Davion-Liao! This means Taurian Concordat! I definitely want to see how the Clans fair there! Nasty stuff!
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 08:56:17 PM »

I believe I'm going to have the SLDF-in-exile come in through the Circinus Federation, and punch through the FWL/LC border. This will be a bit nastier than it initially seems, as the two factions have become quite a bit more civil, are officially allied, and may be leading to a new dynasty.
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2011, 05:26:47 AM »

I have a timeline that covers an attack along the Marik-Liao-Davion border... but that wouldn't fit the rules here...

I think I'd go for the Kurita-Davion border region for 3 reasons:

1. The Outworlds Alliance wouldn't put up a very good fight on the ground, but the ASF combats might be quite impressive.
2. It's close in line with Kerensky's last sighting (over New Samarkand).
3. It's probably the most fortified border of the era (roughly 98 regiments in the region against 68 in canon) so Spheroid resistance can rise rapidly into large, glorious battles that the Clans can't afford to win, never mind lose.
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 02:55:05 AM »

Through the Taurian Concordat as I am like Knightmare, eager to see how they would deal with them.
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 08:04:26 AM »

Davion-Kurita for the same reasons as drakensis.
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 09:03:42 AM »

Keep with Canon personally, pirates for easy intro, Free Rasalhague is still way weaker than the Capellans and no Periphery speed hump in the Magistracy and Taurians.

Any other way you look there is a speed hump realm that is going to slow you down.  Ultimately I want to stay away from the Davions which I'd see as my biggest problem.

Otherwise if not striking on a border go for the DC on its own no major periphery realms in the way, the Outworlds would be an added bonus nothing more.  The FedCom will let it die while they try to strengthen own borders (maybe jumping in at the last minute to keep a little DC in the Clans way.)
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 11:36:16 AM »

It would be a bloodbath but I would love to see the clans all of them not just the ones from the canon battletech universe strike thru the Drac,OA and Fedsuns border. Who knows what interesting things could be found in the draconis drift.
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 11:43:43 AM »

Now i know what this poll is for i'm thinking i may have miss voted, lol oh well some you win and some a Dire Wolf kick's you in the head  :o
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 12:18:34 PM »

Now i know what this poll is for i'm thinking i may have miss voted, lol oh well some you win and some a Dire Wolf kick's you in the head  :o

I read the dev notes before voting  ;D

but even if it wasn't I'd pick the same the best way for the Clans is the canon direction, even if there's not a Rasalhague Republic the lack of a major periphery realm in the way makes it the best choice.

Also the four major periphery realms Hanseatic League, Jarnfolk, Chainelane Isles and Nueva Castile would make good pits stops but wouldn't put up any considerable resistance

The other directions are troublesome

Lyran/FWL has the Cirincan Federation and Marian Hegemony

Drac/FS has Outworlds which has tons of fighters

Capellan/FWL/Federated Suns is a very good way at turning half the Inner Sphere against you quickly and has two major Periphery realms.  If the Clans are looking to spill a lot of their own blood they will attack from this direction
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 12:21:12 PM »

Went with Kurita-Davion, take on both the mightiest, and gain staging ground in the Priff there. Glorious. However, I can see the Standard route as well. Or, as Star Adder go through the Marik-Steiner border to take out the best industry, weakening the enemy in the long run. The hardest battles will be in-land then.

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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 03:57:53 PM »

Now i know what this poll is for i'm thinking i may have miss voted, lol oh well some you win and some a Dire Wolf kick's you in the head  :o

I read the dev notes before voting  ;D

but even if it wasn't I'd pick the same the best way for the Clans is the canon direction, even if there's not a Rasalhague Republic the lack of a major periphery realm in the way makes it the best choice.

Also the four major periphery realms Hanseatic League, Jarnfolk, Chainelane Isles and Nueva Castile would make good pits stops but wouldn't put up any considerable resistance

The other directions are troublesome

Lyran/FWL has the Cirincan Federation and Marian Hegemony

Drac/FS has Outworlds which has tons of fighters

Capellan/FWL/Federated Suns is a very good way at turning half the Inner Sphere against you quickly and has two major Periphery realms.  If the Clans are looking to spill a lot of their own blood they will attack from this direction

I was having some 'issues' getting into my email (bloody yahoo), so came on here and then voted, then got in and saw it, oh well the air battle will be glourious, shame my Outworlds will get pummled in the end.

Humm........

I'm thinking nuke the warships now  :)
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 04:14:53 PM »

That's the one troubling thing from the Periphery realms sure all but the Taurians signed on to Ares but faced with destruction I think even the Outworlds may be tempted (if they have them) to use nukes.
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2011, 05:36:05 PM »

The capabilities of the Taurians are vastly overrated. They gave the SLDF a solid fight a long, long time ago. They had large-scale secret manufacturing assistance from Amaris, a much larger army back then, and a will to fight against what they viewed as Terran oppression. With the Clans? Not so much, as it will take quite some time until they figure out that these are Kerensky's descendants. More importantly, the whole "nuke" card for the Taurians is overplayed. Since the battles against the SLDF, they did not unleash them in any of the intervening conflicts until well into the middle of the Jihad. Most importantly, the modern TDF was beaten handily twice...by a single mercenary unit (the Urukhai and later the Roughriders). The second such merc unit managed to put their entire border defenses in tatters. Personally, I attribute a lot of the overestimation to Periphery 1st edition Syndrome.

Will they give a good hard fight? Yes. Will the Clans see any real need to give the kind of fight the SLDF did, which helped provoke the Taurian insanity response? Nope. Most importantly, as much as the whole "fight to the last man" ideal is given by Taurian fans, I just have trouble accepting it. That's not the reality of planetary populations in canon material, Clan Invasion, or otherwise. There's one specific exception to that, which would be the Taurians versus the SLDF (though a case could be made for the Hegemony worlds resisting Amaris as well). Those are definitely the exceptions, and not the rules. The Taurian people did not react that way ever again, not versus the FedSuns, the Magistracy, or even their own citizens when the nation split. And really, if the nukes do come out, particularly against a staunchly Crusader Clan? Bye-bye Taurus. Welcome to the nightmare of facing real space fleets when you don't have one any more. It's a great scenario, no doubt about it, and it would truly put the Clan philosophy to the test much earlier. But I still can't imagine it as anything but a really costly loss for the TDF.

Edit: All of the above is predicated on hewing close to canon. If you're not, well, it's a whole other ball game. More believable production numbers, using planetary populations to their maximum (meaning continued guerrilla warfare on the ground), and Taurian rage in full effect? Yeah...ouch to the Clans.

Side note: I'm not sure that I would agree with the Outworlds even resorting to nukes. If they did, I could only see them in space. They have gone out of their way to have "clean" warfare throughout their history, and a number of their worlds are agrarian worlds with a great deal of cultural/environmental protection laws in place. It would take a big change in personality for them, as they didn't even use such tactics against the incredibly awful Kuritan invasion forces. And anybody in with 20th century tech can have them. They're crazy easy to make with BT's tech. That they aren't used more often is probably a really good thing. :)
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Re: If you Could Choose the clan Invasion route
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2011, 01:38:03 PM »

The clans would have fought two Houses and saved time I M O! Kurita-Davion!
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