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Just some stuff
« on: October 12, 2012, 06:59:22 PM »
I actually have started writing the fluff for the design from the last topic, but in the meantime I thought I'd toss out some of the other ideas I've had. Done in Blender, the idea is a reasonably fast, low-end heavy. Enjoy!
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 08:29:52 AM »
like the first pic, the second seems to remind me of the old Mercury pictures, (I know same Mech in both shots)

What year/techbase were you thinking
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Quote from: ColBosch on March 15, 2015, 05:35:30 PM

Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 10:24:27 AM »
Interesting very
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 11:33:48 PM »
Not a bad visual comparison DC, why don't we call it the Quicksilver? Thinking a heavier version of that Star League Mech perhaps developed by the Star League, the early Clans, or even ComStar.
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 09:59:54 AM »
Ooh, I like that. Perhaps an offshoot of the Mercury. Designed by ComStar. the Quicksilver may be considered the 'missing link' between the Mercury of the old SLDF and the WoB's Celestial series omnimechs.

Here's another idea I've thought up. No paintjob or textures yet, just basic solid renerding (Sorry  :( ). The only firm details so far is that I'm thinking IS line trooper. Hope you like it  :)
 
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 11:39:48 AM »
Carrying on with the "Quicksilver" first I'm going as simple as possible with this one.  With Lucho's thoughts of a fast Heavy in mind I see this as a fast raider.  Standard Engine, only Endo Steel structure, the ER Large Lasers and 2 Small Pulse Lasers are high tech.

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Quicksilver

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/E-F-E
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 5,542,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,412

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  ER Large Lasers
    2  Small Pulse Lasers
    8  Small Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    99 points                3.00
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19.00
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             16(32)                    6.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           26       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     14           21       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     10           15       
                                             L/R Leg     14           19       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Pulse Laser                            RT        2         1         1.00
Small Pulse Laser                            LT        2         1         1.00
4 Small Lasers                               RA        4         4         2.00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        2         5.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        2         5.00
4 Small Lasers                               LA        4         4         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 14
5          5       2       2       0      3     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Quote from: ColBosch on March 15, 2015, 05:35:30 PM

Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 11:44:07 AM »
And here's what happens to it during the Succession Wars, loses the long range of its main guns and some speed but gains some jump jets to offset that, the armour isn't affected so it can still take some hits.  Mediums replace the pulse lasers giving the Mech a little more bite.  Biggest issue is the single heats showing once again how much Double Heat Sinks were a game changer

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Quicksilver SSW

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D
Production Year: 3025
Cost: 4,990,800 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,263

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Large Lasers
    2  Medium Lasers
    9  Small Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11.50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                        6.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           26       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     14           21       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     10           15       
                                             L/R Leg     14           19       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  HD        1         1         0.50
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
4 Small Lasers                               RA        4         4         2.00
Large Laser                                  RA        8         2         5.00
4 Small Lasers                               LA        4         4         2.00
Large Laser                                  LA        8         2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 23

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 13
4j         3       2       0       0      3     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 11:46:05 AM by Dragon Cat »
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Quote from: ColBosch on March 15, 2015, 05:35:30 PM

Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 12:27:48 PM »
And the trooper Lucho didn't give us a timeframe so here's the Succession War one

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"Trooper" SSW

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-D
Production Year: 3025
Cost: 4,460,771 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,043

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 220 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  PPC
    1  Autocannon/5
    2  SRM-4s
    1  Small Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      91 points                5.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      10.00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             13(26)                    3.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 144                  9.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           22       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     13           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     9            13       
                                             L/R Leg     13           18       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  HD        1         1         0.50
SRM-4                                        RT        3         1         2.00
SRM-4                                        LT        3         1         2.00
PPC                                          RA        10        3         7.00
Autocannon/5                                 LA        1         4         8.00
@SRM-4 (25)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 22

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 10
4          2       2       2       0      2     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0


And the upgrade, more armour, high tech structure, XL engine, double heats, an ER PPC and an ultra AC

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"Trooper"

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 9,789,154 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,272

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  ER PPC
    1  Ultra AC/5
    2  SRM-4s
    1  Small Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    91 points                3.00
    Internal Locations: 2 CT, 4 LT, 4 LA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             275                       8.00
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             13(26)                    3.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 176                 11.00
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           28       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     13           19       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     9            17       
                                             L/R Leg     13           23       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                                  HD        1         1         0.50
SRM-4                                        RT        3         1         2.00
SRM-4                                        LT        3         1         2.00
ER PPC                                       RA        10        3         7.00
Ultra AC/5                                   LA        1         5         9.00
@Ultra AC/5 (40)                             LT        -         2         2.00
@SRM-4 (25)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 13
5          2       2       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0

« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 12:28:19 PM by Dragon Cat »
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Quote from: ColBosch on March 15, 2015, 05:35:30 PM

Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 05:52:53 PM »
Great ideas Dragon Cat  8) The first looks like an upgunned Crab; my idea was MG arrays wrapped around a main gun, but a SL array...

The trooper: I hadn't thought about a heavy autocannon, I was thinking about a LAC/2 array. I think I see some finetuning on the arm mount in Blender tonight. I'm starting to see something: the FedSuns attempts to rebuild the torso of the Enforcer to accomodate more AC ammo (from TRO:3025) leads to a newer, heavier trooper that, it is hoped, will counter the Dragon heavy mech.
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 06:16:07 PM »
Quote from: lucho on October 15, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
Great ideas Dragon Cat  8) The first looks like an upgunned Crab; my idea was MG arrays wrapped around a main gun, but a SL array...

The trooper: I hadn't thought about a heavy autocannon, I was thinking about a LAC/2 array. I think I see some finetuning on the arm mount in Blender tonight. I'm starting to see something: the FedSuns attempts to rebuild the torso of the Enforcer to accomodate more AC ammo (from TRO:3025) leads to a newer, heavier trooper that, it is hoped, will counter the Dragon heavy mech.

I know it was basic but the arm looked like a multi-barrelled AC to me so that's what I went with

Machine guns on the Quicksilver could work lose a heat sink and you have 200 mg rounds 8 mgs should eat that quick
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 10:32:31 AM »
I should probably be doing something more productive, but here's another shot. The idea is the colors for the Davion Heavy Guard, but I'm not quite satisfied...
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 09:36:47 PM »
Second attempt at Davion colors. Ok, ok, I'll get to writing fluff already  :P
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Re: Just some stuff
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 02:27:03 PM »
I'd cut the barrels off that long right arm. Would look alot more balanced
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