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Me personally I prefer the Vulture IV over the Mad Cat IV the Vulture makes use of new items without wasting survivability with the XXL to me to Mad Cat is trying too hard to be as scary as the original which in many ways I guess is a good thing as it shows just how competitive the BattleTech battlefield has become

In 3050 the Timber Wolf was a terror leading the vanguard of Clan assaults

In 3135 it's a Mech that's to be sold and bartered to the highest bidder

If honest I'd love to see what if anything they've done with the true Timber Wolf or Dire Wolf

After looking at them both I must admit Mechs like Hellbringer and Summoner are begging for Mk IV treatment

Armouring the engine may have been a better idea - heavier but still, personally I'd have kept the XL switched the armour and armoured the Gyro that would have been enough flavour without the XXL

Thor II should be Summoner sounds so much better

I'm going to put money on wings included in that one keeping with the growing Jade Falcon fascination with wings

Think they are fixed equipment on Omnis

I adore the design because of the XXL engine. The Clans have always been go big or go home, and that's where I feel they work best. It's easy to optimize with Clantech. It's a whole lot harder to get something with some flair. This has flair, and it plays well to the bravado that makes up an important part of the Clan military culture.

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I am not wholly convinced about the XXL engine, but that may be my limited experience with it.  I don't take that much issue with the slight loss of survivability, since on non-zombie designs, once the torso is breached, I consider the mech done for the day in most circumstances, and try to pull back, and situations where a mech with a Clan XLFE or IS LFE would survive where a larger engine would not seem like edge cases.  I am not so sure if the weight and heat is worth it, though, especially when you consider that the extra heat will occupy 2 tons worth of DHS (assuming run as the default movement mode).  Also, given the extra vulnerability of that engine, I question what good the armored gyro does.

As for Ferro-lamellar, put that on everything, the weight loss is a bit of a hit, but with smaller ES and XLFEs as well as generally smaller equipment, clan mechs can take the space loss generally, and the added survivability is really nice.  Also each armor point is at least worth 1.2 armor points of other armors, so it's not not as much of a weight loss as you might think, and like hardened, actually lets you pack a bit more survivability on if you want to max out your armor weight.

The New vulture seems reasonable, though.


If anything, really; what I want to see is redone IS Omnis.  The clans have been getting new omnis that are fairly decent for a while, but the beyond the totem omnis and Celestials, the IS doesn't have too many actually good omnis.  I am hoping to see the Celestials get the same treatment the Bolla got: a RotS version, has standard C3 and slightly tweaks the pod layouts for IS combat doctrines, but otherwise just as capable, and I want to see stuff like an Owens II to give me a scout omni that is actually dangerous.