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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2011, 10:06:21 PM »
Well there goes the budget and some old plans.
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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2011, 01:42:53 PM »
Just downloaded it, now to spend the weekend reading it, oh and just from the quick look at the mini TRO in the back the TAS Dreadnaught is totally a rip of nBSG.
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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2011, 02:00:50 PM »
Agreed 6, the Dreadnought looks a lot like the Galactica.
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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2011, 02:17:58 PM »
Quote from: Rainbow 6 on June 24, 2011, 01:42:53 PM
Just downloaded it, now to spend the weekend reading it, oh and just from the quick look at the mini TRO in the back the TAS Dreadnaught is totally a rip of nBSG.


Quote from: Takiro on June 24, 2011, 02:00:50 PM
Agreed 6, the Dreadnought looks a lot like the Galactica.

Hmmm...Why am I not really surprised by that? :D

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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2011, 02:22:41 PM »
The unit art really is so so, (all three of the WarShip designs share a similar silhouette, shape and even some actual pieces) but there are a few little tidbits I really liked. For example, the 7th Republican is a throwback to the old Renegade Legion published by FASA (just look at the unit insignia - great stuff!)

Otherwise, I'm only a little disappointed by the TO&Es from the Taurian Fleet Actions. After reading about the DROST-type (err...Firefly anyone?) DropShips and seeing them in the lists, I didn't expect them to be used exclusively by both sides. I mean, with all of the variation found in the Taurian Fleet, (Winchester, Wagon Wheel, Concordat, etc.) seeing one or two domestic DropShip designs isn't too much to ask for is it?

So far, however, I'm loving the book. The theater write ups are great, but the book is riddled with grammatical and punctuation errors.

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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
I should note that the Personalities section is very well done and the profile art is divine (I've read some criticism about CBT portraits in previous products - hopefully this one will shut the naysayers down.)

I also love the new rules for using WMDs, Irregular troops and Mobs. I think some of the Nuclear rules might have some novice players scratching their heads a little bit, but honestly, why are you using nukes anyway?!... :o

Sadly, I do have some continually questions regarding a few of the statements made. For example, the TC had X amount of BattleMech regiments, but apparently produced quite a bit more Talos 'Mechs than the number of regiments would suggest. Even with export, the wording leaves a lot of wiggle room. Same thing with the RWR hovertank mentioned - with thousands produced, and only a (roughly) single domestic user - the RWA and RRA should have been a bit larger on paper.

Those little nitpicks aside, (which is quite stupid really, but I know someone else will mentioned them on CBT) the book is really great. I'm only part of the way through the  TC campaign, (I skipped around a bit) but thoroughly enjoying every moment of it.

If you haven't purchased this book yet, you should.

Note: there's one art piece that's not really kid friendly IMO, but then again, given what kids see on TV today it's probably pretty mild.
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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2011, 03:00:50 PM »
The melee brawl or the body on a pike?
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« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2011, 03:56:18 PM »
I'm a little disappointed about some errors like PDZs being mentioned in the Federated Suns but still reading. Surprised the Sword of Light is around at this point in history.
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« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2011, 04:32:58 PM »
Quote from: Ken on June 24, 2011, 03:00:50 PM
The melee brawl or the body on a pike?

Both, but I thought the melee brawl was the worst. A little too Event Horizon perhaps?...

Gruesome stuff for a BattleTech product, but still cool.

Quote from: Takiro on June 24, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
Surprised the Sword of Light is around at this point in history.

Well, Shiro Kurita did come from a Japanese heritage after all. Even if the bulk of the DC hadn't yet embraced the Samurai culture.
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« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2011, 08:02:32 PM »
3rd Crucis Lancers got a mention, but that is what errata in the modern age is for.

Into Rim Worlds now, all good so far.

As to production, all realm were beefing up militia, so many units probably went there and the rest to replace the massive losses that were ongoing, either from depots or straight of the production lines.
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« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2011, 08:14:26 PM »
Ok, I've given the PDF a read. It definitely merits a second read, and a third. My initial thoughts:

The art is good. Not the best CGL has put out, but still very nice. The units art, while well done, is weak. The portaits are better than the unit work. Same for the maps; two thumbs up

More references (nBSG, Firefly, etc) than before. I guess FASA is truly dead...

Sorry KM, but I disagree on the WMDs. This is a game about big, stompy robots; we're told "you shouldn't be usings nukes and WMDs" and then we're given detailed rules doing just that. MECHS, people! Remember, when this was a game about mechs? [rant off]

 Spot on about the errors. I'm surprised at how bad the editing is  :o

The writing is ok, but they didn't have to pull a retcon on the RWR: now we get a nation that is in the middle of near-anarchy and civil war, and the SLDF is more of a police action than invasion? Maybe I just expected too much, but it's a big change from the original material.

Overall, not the best by a longshot, but still definitely worthwhile  8)
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Re: New Releases!
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2011, 03:04:38 PM »
I see what you're saying lucho, but I appreciate option rules that expand game play above and beyond a "normal" battlefield. Irregular troops, WMDs, etc., only make playing with big stompy robots even more fun. Again, that's why Advanced and Optional Rules are so great. They cater to anyone and everyone.

As for the RWR, I don't know how much of a retcon we're actually seeing. The RWA/RRA divide was pretty true in the original fiction, which was simplified for expediency. Seeing how "loyal" the RWR seemed to the rest of the Inner Sphere, Gregory's "removal" probably made the SLDF's invasion of the Republic actually seem like it was a police action. I try to keep in mind the perception of the RWR that Gregory presented compared to the actual situation brewing within it's borders. That said, the real additions I to the fiction IMO, seemed to be in the Outworlds Alliance, where text on actions outside of the Pitcairn Legion simply didn't exist in prior products.
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« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2011, 04:31:57 PM »
True, I'm being old-fashioned. Actually, my gripe is with the WMDs; I agree with you about the other stuff, esp. the irregular troops  8) . Just my personal preference.  :)

About the OA and RWR; in the first periphery book, we got the who and where for Forlough and the Pitcairn legion, but only that. Now we have more than just a list of battles. Very cool in that respect. The RWR, on the other hand, never mentioned the RWA/RRA divide per se. What we got in the first book is this: Gregory Amaris stayed under house arrest in his mansion for the duration of the war, and the Rim Provisional Government prosecuted the war against the SLDF. Both the original Star League and House Steiner books back up the Periphery book in saying that the 'Rimrats' (nice touch there) had an abundance of conventional forces, and put them to good use. Hardly the disorganized and feuding lot that this book paints them as.
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« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2011, 07:14:07 PM »
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If you haven't purchased this book yet, you should.


waiting for the dead tree copy I'm buying way too many PDFs for my credit card to be happy with  ;D
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« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2011, 11:25:11 PM »
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The RWR, on the other hand, never mentioned the RWA/RRA divide per se. What we got in the first book is this: Gregory Amaris stayed under house arrest in his mansion for the duration of the war, and the Rim Provisional Government prosecuted the war against the SLDF. Both the original Star League and House Steiner books back up the Periphery book in saying that the 'Rimrats' (nice touch there) had an abundance of conventional forces, and put them to good use. Hardly the disorganized and feuding lot that this book paints them as.

Well, there is mention of the 7th's participation in the basic divide, so the implication of the mini-Civil War is there, but you're right about the hardly painted picture of a full nation divided. The old book made it feel more like solely a military thing, rather than a full on split nation.
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