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Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« on: February 11, 2020, 12:47:26 AM »
Any idea which factories in Davion space were destroyed or severely downgraded during the 1st Succession War and the beginning of the 2nd?
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2020, 01:50:35 AM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on February 11, 2020, 12:47:26 AM
Any idea which factories in Davion space were destroyed or severely downgraded during the 1st Succession War and the beginning of the 2nd?
Well, of 3025 Davion space, I know of:

Andoran Industries of Bell (Clint line destroyed 2812)
Cosara Industries of Northwind (Crab line destroyed 2786)
General Motors of Kathil (Blackjack line destroyed 2796)
Maltex Corporation of Errai (Wyvern, Assassin, Thug lines destroyed 2835 - pretty definitely during AFFS pushing DCMS off Errai)
Stormvanger Assemblies of Caph (Javelin, Striker and Cyclops destroyed 2774 - Amaris Civil War rather than Succession Wars)
Lycomb of Demeter (Awesome, Guillotine, Stuka lines nuked 2760 - pre-Periphery Uprising)
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2020, 04:07:18 PM »
Thanks Drakensis.

My question was more to fluff a 'Mech but after asking it I looked at 1st and 2nd Succession Wars Sourcebook and crushed some numbers.

According to the "Inner Sphere at War" rules I found in both, the Federated Suns in 2786 would have 46 factories working and 37 in 2830, so a drop of 20%.
If I add in a "quality" production (there are 3 levels/sizes: Minor factories (*1), Major (*2) and Hyper (*3)); the total would be 93 in 2786 and 64 in 2830, a decrease of 31%
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All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 02:34:15 AM »
It also seems plausible that the StarCorps facility on Crofton built Warhammers at some point and lost the capability at some point during the Succession Wars. I believe it's canonical that even House Davion adopted the Warhammer in place of their Battleaxe and Hammerhands, and that would be the likely source.

It's fairly easy to justify anything in the area between Clovis, Robinson and New Avalon having lost factories, given that area got hammered hard in the First Succession War.
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 04:38:18 PM »
Here is the data I found.

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2786 2830
Number Quality Number Quality
Belladonna 1 Minor 1 Minor
Crofton 3 Major 2 Minor
Delavan 0 Other 0 Other
Galax 0 Other 0 Other
Johnsondale 1 Minor 1 Minor
Kathil 6 Major 5 Major
Kirklin 1 Minor 1 Minor
Layover 3 Major 2 Minor
Marduk 3 Major 2 Minor
New Avalon 10 Hyper 8 Hyper
New Syrtis 4 Major 3 Major
New Valencia 2 Minor 2 Minor
Panpour 4 Major 3 Major
Robinson 2 Minor 2 Minor
Salem 2 Minor 2 Minor
Talon 4 Major 3 Minor
Total 46 37
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 09:49:00 PM »
jvar has the list you want.  it’s on my list of websites.
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 12:33:47 AM »
Quote from: wolfcannon on February 12, 2020, 09:49:00 PM
jvar has the list you want.  it’s on my list of websites.

Thanks for the tip but when I looked at it, it was empty.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
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Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 03:47:23 AM »
Oh, just remembered. The Fury tank factory on Bristol was a 1SW casualty.
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 03:29:03 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 03:32:14 PM »
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 03:46:40 PM »
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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 04:35:36 PM »
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
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Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Federated Suns factories destroyed in Succession Wars
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 04:45:37 PM »
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World:  Achernar (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Achernar BattleMechs (Mech)
Products:       DV-6M Dervish?
Time Destroyed: 1st SW?
Destroyed by:   CC? FS?
Note(s): It's a bit of a stretch, but there is a planet called Achernar and a
         company called Achernar Battlemechs. The company is still active on
         New Avalon but there is a possibility it had a plant (and headquarters?)
         on Achernar. In addition the blueprints for the Enforcer, which is made
         by Achernar BattleMechs, were scavenged from an engineering library on
         Achernar. The company is also known to have built mechs for the Star
         League and the planet Achernar was located within the Terran Hegemony's
         borders.

World:  Bell (Then CC, now FC)
Manufacturer: Andoran Industries Ltd.
Products:       CLNT-2-3T Clint (Mech)
Time Destroyed: 1st Succession War
Destroyed by:   FS?

World:  Bharat (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Killosh Industries
Products:       Magi Tracked Tank (Vehicle)
Time Destroyed: ??
Destroyed by:   RWR?

World:  Caph (Then TH, now CM)
Manufacturer: Stormvanger Assemblies
Products:       FLC-4P Falcon (Mech)
                JVN-10N Javelin (Mech)
                STC-2C Striker (Mech)
                CP 10-Z Cyclops (Mech)
Time Destroyed: 2867?
Destroyed by:   ??

World:  Caph (Then TH, now CM)
Manufacturer: New Earth Trading Company (NETC)
Products:       Electronics
Time Destroyed: Amaris Coup
Destroyed by:   RWR

World:  Caph (Then TH, now CM)
Manufacturer: Nirasaki Computer Collective
Products:       Electronics
Time Destroyed: Amaris Coup
Destroyed by:   RWR

World:  Demeter (FC)
Manufacturer: Lycomb IntroTechnologies Incorporated
Products:       STU-K5 Stuka (ASF)
Time Destroyed: 1st Succession War
Destroyed by:   ??

World:  Demeter (FC)
Manufacturer: ??
Products:       Battlemechs
Time Destroyed: 2760
Destroyed by:   (Capellan) Terrorists nuked it *BOOM*

World:  Errai (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Briden Battlemechs Unlimited
Products:       Battlemechs
Time Destroyed: ??
Destroyed by:   RWR?

World:  Galax (FC)
Manufacturer: Challenge Systems
Products:       Congress Class Frigate?
Time Destroyed: ??
Destroyed by:   CC?
Note(s): Rebuilt in the late 3040's by Boeing Interstellar. There is some
         confusion over whether the Congress was also made here. TR 2750
         creates the impression Challenge Systems was a subcontractor to
         Dekirk Aerospace. But a diagram in TR 3057 of the Congress claims
         Dekirk made it on Galax, something that wouldn't mesh well with
         TR 2750 or the Star League SB.

World: Horsham (Then TC, now FC)
Manufacturer: ??
Products:       Unknown Spaceships
Time Destroyed: Reunification War?
Destroyed by:   TH?
Note(s): Described as a major naval yard so it might have made anything
         from small shuttles to warships.

World:  Muskegon (FC)
Manufacturer: ??
Products:       Dropships?
                Jumpships
Time Destroyed: ?? (Age of War?)
Destroyed by:   CC?

World:  New Avalon (FC)
Manufacturer: New Avalon Shipyards
Products:       Jumpships
Time Destroyed: 1st Succession War?
Destroyed by:   DC?

World:  Ozawa (First TH, then DC, now FC)
Manufacturer: Diplan Mechyards
Products:       MON-66 Mongoose (Mech)
                JR7-D Jenner (Mech)
Time Destroyed: 2847
Destroyed by:   Federated Suns

World:  Ozawa (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Ulsop Robotics
Products:       Electronics
Time Destroyed: 1st SW?
Destroyed by:   CC/DC?

World:  Raman (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Corean Enterprises
Products:       CN9-A Centurion (Mech)
Time Destroyed: 2845
Destroyed by:   CC?
Note(s): The planet's name is really given as Ramen II but since it doesn't
         appear on any map, I figured Raman was it. =P

World:  Tigress (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Paulina Weapons
Products:       Cyrano Gunship (VTOL)
Time Destroyed: ??
Destroyed by:   RWR?

World:  ?? (Then TH, now FC)
Manufacturer: Wangker Aerospace
Products:       CSR-V12 Corsair (ASF)
Time Destroyed: ??
Destroyed by:   Various
Note(s): Wangker Aerospace had several plants but only one of them is still
         working (on Axton). After the fall of the Star League the FedSuns
         captured most of the worlds where a Wangker plant used to be.
         However, ruins of former WA plants can presumably be found on worlds
         owned by other states (CC & DC?).

World:  ?? (Then TC, now FC)
Manufacturer: ??
Products:       Unknown Spaceships
Time Destroyed: Reunification War?
Destroyed by:   TH?
Note(s): It's only a hunch but I guess there was a yard(s) located on/above
         one or more of the three settled worlds in the Pleiades Cluster
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