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Clan Shipyards
« on: December 14, 2018, 01:00:01 AM »

Does anyone know how much shipyards the Clans had and what they could produce?

I found a couple of references on some worlds of the Kerensky's Cluster (among them Lum for Clan Snow Raven) but I want to be sure I didn't miss any.
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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 06:06:07 AM »

How much I can't say exactly but we found a bunch of shipyards recently mainly for dropships as part of Quicksilver, let me see.

Here is the dropship research we did.

https://www.ourbattletech.com/forum/index.php?topic=2938.msg45590#msg45590

And here was our chunky warship thread.

https://www.ourbattletech.com/forum/index.php?topic=3663.0

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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 09:32:59 AM »

Yeah the link for Warships I sent you the other day Ice should have it in that mess of raw data I spewed all over that thread. I got lazy at the end and never compiled it all into a readable format.

Let me know if you want to work together on that or if you are doing it alone.
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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 11:18:54 AM »

I see actually it was all compiled near the end with just a few minor finds later on. Forgot that Tak (Shipyards) and I (ships) did that
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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 01:05:08 PM »

Yeah the link for Warships I sent you the other day Ice should have it in that mess of raw data I spewed all over that thread. I got lazy at the end and never compiled it all into a readable format.

Let me know if you want to work together on that or if you are doing it alone.

I must have missed where you were dealing with that part. I read it twice without finding it (only some pieces here and there).

Here is the dropship research we did.

Thanks.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 01:20:33 PM »

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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 01:22:05 PM »

Not sure if found any after this post concerning shipyards

https://www.ourbattletech.com/forum/index.php?topic=3663.msg45915#msg45915

Put this together today based on talks with Bradshaw yesterday which were backed up by extensive research. Still working on it and would love comments.

Premise the Clans all love self-sufficiency so field and maintain only what they can. This is backed by Snow Raven who monopolizes the warship system and provides assistance where need ($). So every Clan has at least one naval hub, how good it is we can debate. Thoughts??

Clan Naval Facilities

Blood Spirit
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), York (best guest if any)
Status: Minor docks (if any) dedicated to maintenance, possible Raven assistance likely
Capacity: Full (although naval expansion maybe possible)
Cached Fleet: Unlikely (traded to Ravens)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans
Notes: Fleet minimalists the Spirits traded most of their navy away to the Ravens for greater ground support

Burrock
Shipyards: 1, Cheops Shipyards, Albion
Status: Moderate docks (if any) dedicated to maintenance
Capacity: Full (although naval expansion possible, Star Adder disappointment at damage)
Cached Fleet: Possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans (Blood Spirit and Star Adder) and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Average sized Clan fleet with expansion possible.

Cloud Cobra
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Homer (best guest based on available info)
Status: Major docks (if any) dedicated to maintenance
Capacity: Full (although naval expansion maybe possible, a lot of unknowns here)
Cached Fleet: Possible (have to review Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: possibly in Wars of Reaving but a large amount of this is education guess work
Notes: Average sized Clan fleet with expansion possible again a lot of guessing here

Coyote
Shipyards: 2 / (name unknown), Tamaron (cited in Wars of Reaving as demolished by Vipers)
      Candra Orbital Dock, New Kent (pg 54 FM Warden Clans)
Status: Tamaron, moderate dockyards dedicated to maintenance
   New Kent, small orbital yard, one of the Clan’s only sources for new Dropships
Capacity: 4/5s (current naval expansion, new York being built)
Cached Fleet: Possible (have to review Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Warden Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Slightly undersized fleet with current expansion underway

Diamond Shark
Shipyards: 1, Babylon L-5 Yards, Babylon
Status: Major docks refitted by the Ravens, builds the Sassanid Dropship
Capacity: Full (naval expansion maybe possible)
Cached Fleet: Possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: TRO 3057, FM Warden Clans, and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Large warship fleet dedicated to commerce

Fire Mandrill
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Shadow (best guest based on available info)
Status: Minor docks (if any) dedicated to maintenance, possible Raven assistance likely
Capacity: Full (naval expansion maybe possible but with the Kindraa split doubtful)
Cached Fleet: Possible but unlikely (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Second smallest Clan fleet

Ghost Bear
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Bearclaw (moved to Alshain)
Status: Major docks probably outfitted with Raven assistance thanks to close ties
Capacity: 5/6 or 3/4 (naval expansion underway with Leviathans)
Cached Fleet: Possible but unlikely (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Warden Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Average size Clan fleet currently expanding with the Leviathan Warships

Goliath Scorpion
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Roche (perhaps the old Widowmaker yards)
Status: Major docks that are perhaps old but capable of maintaining such a large fleet
Capacity: Full (already a large navy in a resource poor Clan I doubt expansion is possible)
Cached Fleet: Possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Warden Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Large Clan fleet possibly linked to their fascination with the past

Hell’s Horses
Shipyards: 1, (name unknown), Niles (in Wars of Reaving under the Stone Lions)
Status: Minor docks dedicated to maintenance
Capacity: Full (already a large navy in a resource poor Clan I doubt expansion is possible)
Cached Fleet: Possible, unlikely (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Third smallest Clan fleet, transport and ground oriented

Ice Hellion
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Hector (FM Crusader Clans says industry here but guess)
Status: Moderate dockyards dedicated to maintenance
Capacity: Full (no mention of stressed maintenance, guessing based on info available)
Cached Fleet: Possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Average size Clan fleet

Jade Falcon
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Ironhold (guessing based on available info)
Status: Major docks, dedicated to maintenance, possibly built the Peregrine
Capacity: Full (guessing based on info available)
Cached Fleet: Unlikely given their fleet strength but possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Tied with the Jaguars for second largest warship fleet, likely activated all vessels possible for the invasion

Nova Cat
Shipyards: 1? (name unknown), Barcella (guessing based on available info)
Status: Major docks, dedicated to maintenance, possibly built Carracks
Capacity: Full (guessing based on info available)
Cached Fleet: Unlikely given their fleet strength but possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: Invading Clans and FM ComStar
Notes: Fourth largest fleet but has no major warships (one million tons or more)

Smoke Jaguar
Shipyards: 2, Huntress, dropship construction with Miraborg
      Kirin, later dropship construction with Outpost
Status: Major docks, dedicated to maintenance with dropship construction
      Minor docks, dedicated to maintenance with dropship construction
Capacity: Full (guessing based on info available)
Cached Fleet: Unlikely given their fleet strength but possible (see Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: Invading Clans and FM Updates
Notes: Tied for second largest fleet with the Jade Falcons

Snow Raven
Shipyards: 1, (name unknown) Lum
Status: Mega docks, easily largest in Clan space capable of maintenance and construction
Capacity: ? (the Ravens have a stranglehold on the warship industry effectively monopolizing it)
Cached Fleet: ? (very possible, likely the Clan has activated the best stuff for the invasion)
Canon Citations: FM Warden Clans
Notes: The largest fleet of the Clans but one unable to match the next two Clans (in fact any combination of Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar, Nova Cat, Wolf is greater then their fleet) which is their aim. Expansion could very well be in order to overcome this deficit.

Star Adder
Shipyards: 1, (name unknown) Priori (cited in Wars of Reaving)
Status: Moderate docks, maintenance work only
Capacity: Overfull (stressed with the amount of work)
Cached Fleet: Yes (stated several times that the Adders have more ships but can’t field them)
Canon Citations: FM Crusader Clans and Wars of Reaving
Notes: Average size Clan fleet with more vessels in reserve, has to rely on Snow Raven for support

Steel Viper
Shipyards: 2, New Kent (cited in Wars of Reaving, expanded later)
Marshall (cited in TRO3057)
Status: Moderate docks, maintenance based
   Minor docks, dropship construction (Broadsword & Noruff) and maintenance
Capacity: Full (known ships in service and in reserve)
Cached Fleet: Yes (the Vipers pull ships out of mothballs in Wars of Reaving)
Canon Citations: TRO3057 and Wars of Reaving
Notes:

Wolf
Shipyards: 1?, Eden (best guess based on info, likely old yards from original Pentagon)
Status: Major docks
Capacity: Full (cited in Wars of Reaving that the Wolves challenged Vipers for maintenance)
Cached Fleet: Possible (Wolverine Annihilation and Widowmaker Absorption could have added to their assets but the Wolf Dragoons took ships with them)
Canon Citations: Operation Klondike and Wars of Reaving
Notes:

Free Guilds
Shipyards: 1, Strana Mechty
Status: Major docks (Overlord C and Union C) and 5 boneyards
Capacity: Unknown
Cached Fleet: Yes
Canon Citations: Operation Klondike, Betrayal of Ideals, Wars of Reaving
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Re: Clan Shipyards
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2018, 02:05:39 PM »

They were attachments

Those I had.

Not sure if found any after this post concerning shipyards

Somehow I missed it. Thanks.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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