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« on: June 09, 2012, 04:42:55 PM »

So I finally found a couple of pennies and bought XTRO ComStar (it's been out a while so not really a New Release but if you want to move feel free Knightmare)

Anyway the whole point of this post is I think I love this XTRO and I'm on the second page.  It absolutely rips the piss out of ComStar it's possibly the funniest piece of CBT source material I've seen in a while - AB (Andrea Baker PD/MTA (lol)'s comments are some of the best in character commentaries I've seen in a long time.

Anyone who hasn't got it, it's worth a look purely for the commentary I've barely even looked at the Mechs so far
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 06:04:35 PM »

XTRO Boondocks is possibly my favorate, i'd like to see more (in character) publications like it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 06:13:29 PM »

I have always liked TRO's, although they can be a hard slog to read at times, but the XTRO series has not really done it for me, apart from the historical one like Primitives.  I think it stems from my feeling that BT Tech options are just a little bit oversaturated these days.
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 10:56:11 PM »

the fluff on XTRO Comstar is probably the best out of any sourcebook ever.

I do have to agree though that for the most part the units contained therin are mostly uninspired wrecks.  I understand that experimental does not mean Uber, but the Beowulf, Tessen, Exterminator, and Demon tank were pure junk.

the exterminator was not even that clever, it took an extant, latter jihad conversion, and added weight free, crit heavy gear to it.
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 03:09:58 AM »

Yup pretty much what I thought after an in depth read virtually none of the units are any good or of use it's not really a sourcebook for the units more the comedy and the complete fall of ComStar

Maybe excepting the Hurricane which I can see many nasty uses for, maybe even as far as the DA and The resurgent ComGuard faction
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 09:28:54 AM »

I find them all very interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 11:51:24 AM »

Yup pretty much what I thought after an in depth read virtually none of the units are any good or of use it's not really a sourcebook for the units more the comedy and the complete fall of ComStar

Maybe excepting the Hurricane which I can see many nasty uses for, maybe even as far as the DA and The resurgent ComGuard faction

I dunno if I would go that far.  the Beowulf is functional, the Exterminator variant was awesome before the CLPS and Null Sig was added on, the Grim Reaper is a Punching Bag, the Highlander is interesting.

the Celerity is a cool concept, and the Fury tank that accompanies it is nothing to sneeze at.

the fighters are all functional, and the hurricaine suit is phenominal
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 12:00:51 PM »

I really enjoyed the series and I also enjoyed the TR:Prototypes .
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 01:11:53 PM »

The xTRO series has been hit or miss for me. Considering that the large majority of them are not in production, it feels a bit like I'm just paying for somebody's fan designs on the forums. I'm not sure that's a precedent I'd like set. Had more of these been in production or at least a bit more prevalent, I would have been happier.

Prototypes on the other hand, I found to be one of my favorite TROs to date. The fluff was a little more well constructed, and the changes seemed to occupy a happy middle ground of "Look at the fun new toys we can use!" and "Yeah, we still have those weird production holdups, so we're still kind of half-assing this."
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 01:32:33 PM »

I've enjoyed the fluff more than anything the poorest ones for me were the historricals they should have gone into a historical TRO or sourcebook

I'll completely agree with Prototypes one of the better ones for a while
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 01:39:06 PM »

The xTRO series has been hit or miss for me. Considering that the large majority of them are not in production, it feels a bit like I'm just paying for somebody's fan designs on the forums. I'm not sure that's a precedent I'd like set. Had more of these been in production or at least a bit more prevalent, I would have been happier.

Prototypes on the other hand, I found to be one of my favorite TROs to date. The fluff was a little more well constructed, and the changes seemed to occupy a happy middle ground of "Look at the fun new toys we can use!" and "Yeah, we still have those weird production holdups, so we're still kind of half-assing this."

just cause they are not in full scale production does not mean you can not bring them to games.  if anything all TROs are just weird fan designs considering who runs Btech these days
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »

To true JPArbiter I have already incorporated a few designs from Prototypes and XTRO:Clans. If You do the proper trials and/or the proper Black Ops raids everything works out great.
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Re: XTRO series
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 03:28:27 PM »

Second look at these things (trying not to read the fluff as it makes me laugh)

To me the Beowulf is not really an upgrade, it works but lose the Composite Structure and the Small Cockpit then it might be ok, the Stealth Armour and Angel ECM do provide plus points.  But 4 ER Mediums is nothing compared to what some Mechs this size carry and it has no range.

The Tessen shouldn't be in there all it does is swap the iNarc (which no-one used) for the C3 Remote Dispenser

I'll give you the Grim Reaper it's a tank but with all that Clan tech a little impractical

The Exterminator would be nice with a Void system on it but as the fluff says - give me a Raptor II (I know it's classified so the designer didn't know but it's still funny)

The Highlander on a second look might be worth a play with, nice split firepower instead of the all in one LRM-20 for ranged and really nice close in with all those MML tubes.  Would likely be neat in a City but why not give it an AC/20 make it a city fighter instead of trying to fight everywhere?  The Angel ECM would be well at home there.

Don't like the Celerity or what it stands for the design itself is pretty useless on the battlefield other than a C3i Scout, a couple of SRMs will disable it, an expensive loss I'd rather have a hover craft drone.  The art work is pretty cool.  The Fury is a nice command vehicle actually but not really for pick up play.

The Lightning, Demon and Kobold are horrible

The fighters I won't judge as don't play often enough

But still by a long way my favourite is the Hurricane, it's just a nasty piece of work, the Armour and AP Gauss maybe difficult to get your hands on but that would be a nice piece of personal kit
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 03:53:18 PM »

just cause they are not in full scale production does not mean you can not bring them to games.  if anything all TROs are just weird fan designs considering who runs Btech these days

Absolutely. I just prefer a style of game that focuses on what a faction actually produces and imports, rather than unusual one-offs. I have my own fan designs for the "strange and unusual" vibe. :)

And to be fair, I have used them on occasion (particularly since MM does not have the Prototypes units yet). I just haven't felt that as much care was put into the xTROs as some of the more recent traditional TROs, so the designs don't often strike my fancy.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 05:04:41 PM »

For the strange and unusual vibe you are in the right place
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