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Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« on: September 13, 2015, 08:29:55 PM »

Well folks this Blood Spirit version of the Battlemaster went through several different variations until I was satisfied. Originally presented by LordGrayon it has changed a lot. What do you think?

BATTLEMASTER IIC
Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Hollis Mark X
Power Plant: Clan Standard 255 Fusion Engine
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Jump Jets: None
   Jump Capacity: None
Armor: Compound Zeta Ferro-Fibrous
Armament: 1 CRG Gauss Rifle
   1 Type 22 Extended Range Particle Projection Cannon
   2 Type XX “Long Bow” LRM 20-Racks with Artemis IV FCS
   2 Series 1 Extended Range Small Lasers
Manufacturer: BattleMech Y3 Facility
   Primary Factory: York
Communications System: HartfordCo COM 4000
Targeting and Tracking System: HartfordCo XKZ 1

OVERVIEW
   While modularization of the Blood Kite into the Stone Lion was cause for celebration among the Clan some Blood Spirits realized the need for a capable replacement was even more important. Several thought the Awesome IIC would fill that role with the second line units of their Touman. However, this ignored the Warhammer IIC upgrade which thanks to the contract with Diamond Shark was occurring rapidly. Khan Karianna Schmitt authorized her designers to “explore cost effective alternatives to the Blood Kite”. Thankfully the Quicksilver Program had already showcased several different 85 ton BattleMechs which could potentially be effective. Among these was the well respected Battlemaster which had served with distinction since its introduction in 2633. Ironically it had been the fifteenth Quicksilver Trail which was ultimately responsible for the Blood Kite upgrade that a Battlemaster OmniMech was proposed by the Fire Spirit Design Team.

CAPABILITIES
   It could be said that little remains from the original Battlemaser except for the Hollis Mark X chassis and internal myomers but this would overlook the electronic systems. Both the HartfordCo COM 4000 communication system and the HartfordCo XKZ 1 targeting system were successfully recreated by their new Goliath Scorpion allies. Rebuilt from existing models featured on the Battlemaster and the Shogun these components had helped make for an effective command ‘Mech. As the lead machine for slower Assault Stars the decision was made to incorporate a smaller standard engine. Replacing the VOX 340 with a 255 Fusion Engine reduced the overall speed and required a smaller gyroscope.
Ample supplies of these lesser power plants from cached machines like the Stalker and Shogun as well as equipment already in production such as the Thor, Kubulai, Thunder Stallion, and Stone Lion allowed designers to allocate more long ranged weaponry in the Battlemaster IIC. Described by some warriors as part Archer and part Warhammer the ‘Mech armament features two big missile systems and two big guns. Two Type XX “Long Bow” LRM 20-Racks with Artemis IV Fire Control along with a CRG Gauss Rifle and Type 22 Extended Range Particle Projection Cannon compose the primary arsenal. Able to deliver distant devastation these major offensive systems are backed up by twin Series 1 Extended Range Small Lasers providing close support.
   It is true that the main weaponry of the Battlemaster IIC is advanced and more costly than that of the Blood Kite but because of its stature as a command ‘Mech this extravagance has largely been justified. Drawing these arms from conventional vehicles also mitigated the potential expenditures somewhat. That said the Battlemaster IIC is still pretty cost effective even for the notoriously tightfisted Blood Spirits. To protect their investment thirteen and half tons of Compound Zeta Ferro-Fibrous armor replaced the standard StarGuard armor plating. This sophisticated armor originally used on the Mars Assault Vehicle provides ninety eight percent of maximum protection.

DEPLOYMENT
   Ideally suited for activation as a Clan second line BattleMech many were called up from Brian Caches or salvaged from InnerSphere battlefields. The first Battlemaster IICs appeared as Command ‘Mechs for second line formations in Blood Spirit and Fire Mandrill forces spreading quickly from there. Goliath Scorpion assistance enabled their early acquisition of this design which they quickly passed along to Steel Viper. Their possession of Trellshire Heavy Industries on Twycross rapidly made their Battlemaster IIC force the third largest. Diamond Shark and Snow Raven swiftly acquired rights to the design as well proliferating it throughout Clan space. Hell’s Horses acquired the Battlemaster IIC from Kindraa Payne and using the 255 Fusion Engines found on their Thunder Stallion BattleMech have activated a number of these classics. With a number of salvaged InnerSphere machines in their possession the Jade Falcons immediately picked up on it as well. Only Burrock, and to a lesser extent Cloud Cobra, seem to be lagging behind. Preferring their Marauder IIC in just another chapter in their bitter rivalry with the Blood Spirit trails between the two war machines have been intense.

Type: Battlemaster IIC
Technology Base: Clan Level 2
Tonnage: 85 tons

Equipment                           Mass
Internal Structure:                      8.5
Engine:            255                13
   Walking MP:         3
   Running MP:      5
   Jumping MP:      0               0
Heat Sinks:            13 (26)            3
Gyro:                              3
Cockpit:                           3
Armor Factor:         259               13.5

            Internal Structure      Armor Value
   Head            3            9
   Center Torso        27            41 / 11
   R/L Torso         18            27 / 9
   R/L Arm         14            28
   R/L Leg         18            35

Weapons and Ammo:      Location      Critical   Mass
Gauss Rifle            Right Arm      6      12
Ammo (Gauss) 16         Right Arm      2      2
ER PPC            Left Arm      2      6
LRM 20             Right Torso      4      5
Artemis IV FCS         Right Torso      1      1
Ammo (LRM) 18         Right Torso      3      3
LRM 20             Left Torso      4      5
Artemis IV FCS         Left Torso      1      1
Ammo (LRM) 12         Left Torso      2      2
ER Small Laser         Right Torso      1      .5
ER Small Laser         Left Torso      1      .5
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 10:25:24 PM »

It's obviously very strong and is a very good Mech, with some devastating firepower.
My one issue is that I have trouble reconciling it with a Battlemaster, particularly when I look at the weapon load out. To me the payload gives me images of an Atlas more than a Battlemaster. I just can't connect the image with the weapons.

Sorry to be critical as I really do like it. It just doesn't shout Battlemaster at me. The config is too far removed.
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 10:58:55 PM »

I hear ya bud, it is a very different Battlemaster certainly. The energy weapon version of the Royal Battlemaster did not seem strong enough to me. Also a lot like the Marauder IIC. Plus it is cheaper. Love to get more feedback.  ;)
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 04:43:19 PM »

I know its been awhile but I've been thinking about doing over the Battlemaster IIC seen above. We have a design coming out that is too similar to this design and Jimmy the Tulip was right while effective. The more I look back at it the more it felt like not a Battlemaster.

So I'd like to ask for your help in a redesign, please submit your version here. A few caveats; design wise you have to keep the Hollis Mark X chassis (8.5 tons) and the VOX 340 Fusion Engine. Fluff wise it has got to be a Blood Spirit BattleMech meant as a Second Line/ Solhama Command Unit.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 03:47:08 AM »

Battlemaster IIC

Mass: 85 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-C-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 9,188,518 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,017

Chassis: Hollis Mark X Standard
Power Plant: VOX 340 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Compound Alpha with CASE Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2 Series 7K ER Large Lasers
    3 SEP Class SRM-4s
    6 Series 1 ER Small Lasers
    2 Chi Series Small Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: BattleMech Y3 Facility
    Primary Factory: York
Communications System: HarfordCo COM 4000
Targeting and Tracking System: HarfordCo XKZ 1

Overview:
While modularization of the Blood Kite into the Stone Lion was cause for
celebration among the Clan some Blood Spirits realized the need for a capable
replacement was even more important. Several thought the Awesome IIC would fill
that role with the second line units of their Touman. However, this ignored the
Warhammer IIC upgrade which thanks to the contract with Diamond Shark was
occurring rapidly. Khan Karianna Schmitt authorized her designers to “explore
cost effective alternatives to the Blood Kite”. Thankfully the Quicksilver
Program had already showcased several different 85 ton BattleMechs which could
potentially be effective. Among these was the well respected Battlemaster which
had served with distinction since its introduction in 2633. Ironically it had
been the fifteenth Quicksilver Trail which was ultimately responsible for the
Blood Kite upgrade that a Battlemaster OmniMech was proposed by the Fire Spirit
Design Team.


Capabilities:
Stripping the chassis of cached Battlemasters, Blood Spirit technicans replaced
the armament, armour and coolant systems entirely with lighter and more compact
Clan technology, adding an anti-missile system. This version wasn't entirely
satisfactory to the Khans however and the Merchant Factor pointed out that it
depended on access to Extended Range PPCs and the anti-missile system, both of
which were in short supply for their Clan.

After a series of tests to explore alternatives, the right-arm's PPC has been
replaced with a pair of Extended Range Large Lasers of the reliable 7K model
that's served on the Blood Kite. The Short-Range Missile system was doubled up
and finally replaced entirely with three SEP models.

The new Battlemaster relies entirely on the right-arm for long range firepower
intended for use as the 'Mech closes to its preferred point-blank range where
short-range missiles and small lasers can exploit damaged armour.

To ensure reaching this close range, the new armour layers the chassis in
Compound Alpha ferrofibrous plating, a formula readily available across the
clans.


Battle History:
The Battlemaster IIC saw its combat debut against Clan Burrock when the Clan
tried a pre-emptive trial to claim the first prototypes from their bitter
rivals. A bold bid by Star Captain Til Winson saw him piloting a fresh from the
MechWorks BattleMaster IIC against a Marauder IIC and a point of Elementals.
Luring the Elementals into the close confines of the facility loading yard,
Winson powered up the Battlemaster suddenly from where it was hidden behind two
cargo containers and ambushed the point, killing four of them in his first
salvo.

Having crushed the last Burrock Elemental underfoot after they reported his
location, the Star Captain used his greater speed to circle the facility and
caught the Marauder IIC from behind as it took up a firing position overlooking
the loading yard. As technicans from the plant cheered, Winson's fire ripped
into the reactor shielding of his oppenent, crippling its ability to manuever
or return fire effectively.

While the Maruader IIC was claimed as isorla, it is believed that Winson
refused to accept the Burrock's surrender and executed him personally for
incompetence in failing to support the Elementals more closely.


Deployment:
Ideally suited for activation as a Clan second line BattleMech many were called
up from Brian Caches or salvaged from InnerSphere battlefields. The first
Battlemaster IICs appeared as Command ‘Mechs for second line formations in
Blood Spirit and Fire Mandrill forces spreading quickly from there. Goliath
Scorpion assistance enabled their early acquisition of this design which they
quickly passed along to Steel Viper. Their possession of Trellshire Heavy
Industries on Twycross rapidly made their Battlemaster IIC force the third
largest. Diamond Shark and Snow Raven swiftly acquired rights to the design as
well proliferating it throughout Clan space. With a number of salvaged
Inner Sphere machines in their possession the Jade Falcons immediately picked up
on it as well.


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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                     130 points                8.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                340                      27.00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             23(46)                   13.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 239                 12.50
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA
    CASE Locations: LT                                                     0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     27           40       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  12       
                                           L/R Torso     18           28       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     14           25       
                                             L/R Leg     18           28       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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2 ER Small Lasers                            RT        4         2         1.00
(R) ER Small Laser                           RT        2         1         0.50
2 ER Small Lasers                            LT        4         2         1.00
(R) ER Small Laser                           LT        2         1         0.50
3 SRM-4s                                     LT        9         3         3.00
2 ER Large Lasers                            RA        24        2         8.00
2 Small Pulse Lasers                         LA        4         2         2.00
@SRM-4 (25)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 20
4          7       7       2       0      4     0   Structure:  7
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0

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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 08:47:16 AM »

Very nice drak, any other challengers??
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 04:06:15 PM »

I'll have a go tomorrow though I like both above versions
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2017, 06:27:51 PM »

I'll have a go tomorrow though I like both above versions
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2017, 06:36:23 PM »

Looking forward to it men! ;)
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2017, 03:23:12 AM »

Here we go something that honours where it came from and embraces the advances of Clan tech

Battlemaster IIC

Mass: 85 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-C-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 10,079,293 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,101

Chassis: Holly Mark X Standard
Power Plant: VOX 340 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armour: Compound Zeta Ferro Fibrous Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1 Long Shot LRM-15 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    1 Spirit Type 10 LB 10-X AC
    1 Snappy Streak Streak SRM-6
    1 Pulsar Type 3 Medium Pulse Laser
    1 Series 12 ER Medium Laser
    2 Pulsar Type 2 Small Pulse Lasers
    1 Hidden Sight ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Clan Blood Spirit
    Primary Factory: Y3 York
Communications System: HartfordCo COM 4000
Targeting and Tracking System: HartfordCo XKZ 1

Overview:
The Battlemaster IIC was developed as a leadership model for their second-line
forces as part of the Quicksilver program to revitalize their BattleMech
forces.

Capabilities:
The Battlemaster IIC has the same chassis as the original BattleMech and
maintains the same speed with a 340 standard engine covered in thirteen tons of
armour the BattleMech is highly durable.

When it came to arming the Battlemaster IIC the Blood Spirits took the
surprising step of arming the vessel primarily with an class 10 LB-X autocannon
which takes up most of the right arm.  This weapon like the original
Battlemaster's particle cannon is carried like a handheld weapon meaning that
it can be detached.  In a strange step the ammunition is fed from ammunition
bins kept in the shoulder and with armoured belts running along outside of the
arm.  If the autocannon is detached then the ammunition can also be dumped.

Supporting the autocannon is a six-pack streak short range missile launcher for
close range firepower and a fifteen-tube long range missile launcher for use
while closing this launcher is supported by an Artemis FCS, an extended range
medium laser, a single medium pulse laser and a pair of small pulse lasers.

Finally twelve double heat sinks and an ECM suite round out the assault
BattleMech's firepower.

Battle History:
To date there are two known examples of this type of BattleMech in operation
with Clan Blood Spirit with more planned.  So far the Blood Spirits have
restricted this BattleMech to internal Trials of Possession.

Deployment:
There are plans to deploy this BattleMech with all second line forces of the
Blood Spirits as well as open the BattleMech up to trade in the future.

Variants:
As part of the Quicksilver Program there are a few variants of this BattleMech
in development as the Blood Spirits work towards narrowing down on a
configuartion worth manufacturing.

Additional:
Historical Note (3145) - It is interesting to note that the Battlemaster's
exposed ammunition feed was the first to have such a feature.  This was
followed by multiple designs that followed in 3080 and in the Dark Age-era.

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                     130 points                8.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                340                      27.00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armour:             Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 249                 13.00
    Armour Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
    CASE Locations: RT, RA                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armour     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     27           40       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     18           27       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  9         
                                             L/R Arm     14           26       
                                             L/R Leg     18           33       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
ER Medium Laser                              CT        5         1         1.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RT        4         1         2.00
Streak SRM-6                                 LT        4         2         3.00
LRM-15                                       LT        5         2         3.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           LT        -         1         1.00
LB 10-X AC                                   RA        2         5        10.00
2 Small Pulse Lasers                         LA        4         2         2.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           RT        -         1         1.00
@LRM-15 (8)                                  RT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      RA        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         RA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 21

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 21
4          5       5       2       0      4     0   Structure:  7
Special Abilities: ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1, FLK 1/1/1

« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 03:24:26 AM by Dragon Cat »
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2017, 09:47:25 PM »

Different, anyone else like to try their hand??
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2017, 10:02:12 PM »

I did a BLR-IIC a while ago, but it doesn't fit the requirements you have. Mine's Endo/XL, and it's a Jade Falcon/Steiner machine from the Pandora factory (depending on who owns it at the time) rather than a Blood Spirit machine.

Tho I am feeling a bit of inspiration for one with a bunch of Heavy Lasers. What era is your BLR-IIC supposed to be from, tho? Golden Century? Invasion? Just pre-Reaving?
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2017, 11:43:08 PM »

Invasion my friend, 3054 before Heavy Lasers so no go on that. Also remember your hands our tied to a standard chassis  (8.5 tons) and the VOX 340 Fusion Engine. Fluff wise it has got to be a Blood Spirit BattleMech meant as a Second Line/ Solhama Command Unit.
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2017, 01:59:24 AM »

A challenge I missed? I'll get on this when I get home from work.
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Re: Battlemaster IIC (Quicksilver preview)
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2017, 06:53:40 AM »

You haven't missed it, yet!
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