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Thunderbeast
« on: June 26, 2013, 02:37:49 AM »
         BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Thunderbeast
Tech:          Mixed Tech  /  3075
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Custom design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel (C)
Power Plant:   300 Fusion (C)
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 43.2 [54.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type:    Hardened

Armament:     
  3 Flamers(C)
  8 ER Medium Lasers(C)
  1 Angel ECM Suite (IS)

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Thunderbeast
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Endo Steel (C)        7      5.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3 [4]
   Running MP:   4 [5]
   Jumping MP:   3
Heat Sinks:     20 Laser (C) [40]           16     10.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 4 LT, 4 RT)
Compact Gyro:                                2      4.50
Torso-Mounted Cockpit, Life Supt.:           6      4.00
Triple Strength Myomer (IS):                 6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  307 (IS)                      0     38.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             31         42     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 20     
   L/R Side Torso:           21      27/27     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            15/15     
   L/R Arm:                  17      34/34     
   L/R Leg:                  21      42/42     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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1 Flamer  (C)            RA      3           1       .50
1 Flamer  (C)            LA      3           1       .50
4 ER Medium Lasers (C)   RT(T)  20           4      4.00
4 ER Medium Lasers (C)   LT(T)  20           4      4.00
1 Flamer  (C)            CT      3           1       .50
1 Angel ECM Suite (IS)   HD      0           2      2.00
1 Variable Range System (HD                  1       .50
3 Standard Jump Jets:                        3      6.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Turret Equipment:   Left, Right Shoulder     2      1.00
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TOTALS:                         49          78    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        19,542,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    3,440 (old BV = 2,916)
Cost per BV2:      5,680.81
Weapon Value:      10,704 / 10,704 (Ratio = 3.11 / 3.11)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 53;  MRDmg = 31;  LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2:      MP: 3J,  Armor/Structure: 8/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 7/5/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 34
                   Specials: ecm
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 09:56:10 AM »
first off what book does Variable ranged system come from? what are the rules for it?

secondly even with Clan Lasers this thing is a target.  Hellstar does it cheaper and reaches further, and will frankly eviscerate this puppy.

and thirdly, When I hear Thunder in the name, I typically think loud noises made by Autocannons and Missiles, of which this has neither.  Flashbeast might be a better name.
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 08:19:49 PM »
Quote from: JPArbiter on June 27, 2013, 09:56:10 AM
first off what book does Variable ranged system come from? what are the rules for it?

secondly even with Clan Lasers this thing is a target.  Hellstar does it cheaper and reaches further, and will frankly eviscerate this puppy.

and thirdly, When I hear Thunder in the name, I typically think loud noises made by Autocannons and Missiles, of which this has neither.  Flashbeast might be a better name.

  Variable Range targeting comes from Max Tech and it reduces the targeting number by 1 of short or long range shots depending upon what range it is set on. I'm not sure if it is in other publications like Tactical Operations. A lot of 'Mechs have better range than the Thunderbeast but that only matters if you have line of sight and a valid shot (12 or less target number). Don't forget about all that Hardened Armor you'll have to chew through... In any case, at long range with an average Gunnery of 3, your target numbers, when the Hellstar manages to get shots, will frequently be in the double digits even against something like the Thunderbeast. Fair enough as far as the name goes :)
« Last Edit: June 28, 2013, 02:30:33 PM by ATN082268 »
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 12:05:26 AM »
yeah, Max Tech is invalid in light of Tech manual and Tac Ops.

the hardened armor is an issue yes, but the Hellstar is naturally faster, and still cheaper on the BV front.  it can dictate the pace of the engagement and chew through the hardened armor at a medium range that would be long range for this puppy, or just flat out range it and let the PPCs do their thing.


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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 01:05:35 AM »
Side note laser heat sinks only help in reducing ammo explosions under current rules if I remember right.  I'd save yourself resources and use doubles even mount less of them so you hit TSM quicker
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 12:00:05 PM »
Quote from: Dragon Cat on July 01, 2013, 01:05:35 AM
Side note laser heat sinks only help in reducing ammo explosions under current rules if I remember right.  I'd save yourself resources and use doubles even mount less of them so you hit TSM quicker

and makes you easier to hit in low light fighting...
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 02:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Dragon Cat on July 01, 2013, 01:05:35 AM
Side note laser heat sinks only help in reducing ammo explosions under current rules if I remember right.  I'd save yourself resources and use doubles even mount less of them so you hit TSM quicker

  Noted. Thank you.
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Re: Thunderbeast
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 02:52:49 PM »
Quote from: JPArbiter on July 01, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
yeah, Max Tech is invalid in light of Tech manual and Tac Ops.

the hardened armor is an issue yes, but the Hellstar is naturally faster, and still cheaper on the BV front.  it can dictate the pace of the engagement and chew through the hardened armor at a medium range that would be long range for this puppy, or just flat out range it and let the PPCs do their thing.

  I designed the Thunderbeast around the time of Max Tech and honestly, when I posted it recently, I didn't even think about whether stuff like the Variable Range System was in a subsequent book(s). I guess a lot of it is a matter of preference on movement, but I'd take a 3/4(5)/3 unit over a 4/6/0 any day if there was significant terrain. True, on an open battlefield starting with a large distance between them, the Hellstar would win hands down against the Thunderbeast but I don't see anyone claiming otherwise :)
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