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Title: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 09:07:21 PM: Call this inspired (or just crazy) by JPArbiter's Vehicle thread I thought I'd have a look at the DA Mechs namely the Jade Falcon trio Eyrie, Gryfalcon, and Shirke.

I'm not a Jade Falcon fan never ever have been but I'm going to try and be impartial and make these decent. First I had to make them in SSW to see exactly what they had and how it worked... or didn't. Starting with the Eyrie I found you can only make this Mech with no lower arm or hand actuators. Which I'll be honest I don't really mind, looking at the picture on warrenborn.com (thanks JPArbiter for pointing that one out) it doesn't look like the Mech has them anyway.

Going by the dossier card this is what I came up with pretty well armed while a little messed up at the same time (what was it with the DA fascination with Micro lasers?? Wastes some tonnage to get max armour.

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Eyrie Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,861,025 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,395 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 180 meters (240 meters) Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 2 ER Medium Lasers 2 ATM-3s 4 ER Micro Lasers Manufacturer: Clan Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 4 LA, 3 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 6 (8) Standard Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 3.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(27) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 119 6.50 Armor Locations: 3 LA, 4 RA CASE Locations: RT, LA, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 18 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 8 13 L/R Torso (rear) 3 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Micro Laser HD 1 1 0.25 2 ER Medium Lasers CT 10 2 2.00 ATM-3 RT 2 2 1.50 ER Micro Laser RT 1 1 0.25 ATM-3 LT 2 2 1.50 2 ER Micro Lasers LT 2 2 0.50 Partial Wing LT/RT - 3/3 2.00 @ATM-3 (HE) (20) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-3 (ER) (20) RA - 1 1.00 @ATM-3 (20) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 14 6/8j 4 3 1 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 09:09:55 PM: And here's my response to it... a single ATM launcher instead of the dual 3 tubes on the DA card. And four dependable ER Mediums for back up. Slightly less armour but no tonnage wasted

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Eyrie 2 Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,900,175 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,831 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 180 meters (240 meters) Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 4 ER Medium Lasers 1 ATM-6 Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 4 LA, 2 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 6 (8) Standard Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 3.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 11(25) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 115 6.00 Armor Locations: 3 LA, 4 RA CASE Locations: LT 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 18 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 8 13 L/R Torso (rear) 3 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 14 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Medium Lasers CT 10 2 2.00 ATM-6 RT 4 3 3.50 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00 Partial Wing LT/RT - 3/3 2.00 @ATM-6 (10) LT - 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (ER) (10) LT - 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (HE) (10) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 18 6/8j 5 4 1 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 09:34:25 PM: Next the Gryfalcon... What were they thinking? Keep costs down, that makes sense... sorta... not really Clan, ultimate Machine and warrior thing going on. This thing looks more like a hand-me-down from Clan Diamond Shark

The Lasers I can stand but dual LB-X 2? What is going on here, the wings stick on like the rest of this trio

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Gryfalcon Mass: 55 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 11,385,267 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,947 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 275 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (108.0 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters (210 meters) Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 ER Large Lasers 2 LB 2-X ACs Manufacturer: Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 91 points 5.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 275 8.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 (10) Jumping MP: 5 (7) Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(23) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 128 8.00 CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 18 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 13 17 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 9 12 L/R Leg 13 15 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MASC LT - 2 2.00 Partial Wing LT/RT - 3/3 3.00 ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00 LB 2-X AC RA 1 3 5.00 ER Large Laser LA 12 1 4.00 LB 2-X AC LA 1 3 5.00 @LB 2-X (Cluster) (45) RT - 1 1.00 @LB 2-X (Slug) (45) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 22 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 19 6/7j 2 2 2 0 2 1 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 09:39:49 PM: My one, kept the costs down, still seems wrong Jade Falcons are not Nova Cats or Diamond Sharks they don't need to cut costs. Anyway....

Kept the ER Large pair, added a LB-10 you want a vehicle killer go bigger. A medium laser rounds it out.

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Gryfalcon 2 Mass: 55 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 11,648,767 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,123 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 275 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (108.0 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters (210 meters) Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 ER Large Lasers 1 LB 10-X AC 1 ER Medium Laser Manufacturer: Clan Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 91 points 5.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 275 8.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 (10) Jumping MP: 5 (7) Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(23) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 112 7.00 CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 17 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 13 15 L/R Torso (rear) 3 L/R Arm 9 13 L/R Leg 13 10 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00 MASC LT - 2 2.00 Partial Wing LT/RT - 3/3 3.00 LB 10-X AC RA 2 5 10.00 2 ER Large Lasers LA 24 2 8.00 @LB 10-X (Cluster) (10) RA - 1 1.00 @LB 10-X (Slug) (10) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 22 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 21 6/7j 3 3 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 1/1/1
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 09:43:35 PM: And if they wanted to spend a little more. lighter structure, kept the lasers, but improved Jets give better performance, an RAC2 provides your AC fix for this Mech (not what I'd go with but fits with Mech) and a Supercharger saves from losing your legs with a crit fail

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Gryfalcon 2 Mass: 55 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 16,397,192 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,425 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 275 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (108.0 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 210 meters (270 meters) Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 ER Large Lasers 1 Rotary AC/2 Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 275 8.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 (10) Jumping MP: 7 (9) Improved Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL 7.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(23) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 160 10.00 CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 26 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 13 22 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 9 15 L/R Leg 13 19 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Partial Wing LT/RT - 3/3 3.00 Supercharger LT - 1 1.00 Rotary AC/2 RA 1 4 8.00 2 ER Large Lasers LA 24 2 8.00 @Rotary AC/2 (45) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 10 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 24 6/9j 3 3 3 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 10:04:35 PM: Are the Jade Falcons nuts? I've asked it for a while. To be honest I'm starting to think so especially with what I found with this Mech.

Can't put Partial wing on it even though it looks like wings so likely cosmetic. Almost wish the weapons were cosmetic too. 2 ER Lasers I can live with, 2 Ultra 5 autocannons... eh what? and an LRM-10 with a targeting computer

A Dire Wolf out guns this thing with one arm and a torso!! And its only 5 tons heavier... this is a mobile design, but its weapons seem geared for longer sniping battles wasting the engine tonnage.

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Shrike Mass: 95 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 26,131,008 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,515 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 380 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 ER Large Lasers 2 Ultra AC/5s 1 LRM-10 w/ Artemis IV FCS Manufacturer: Clan Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 145 points 5.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 380 20.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 4 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 2 LL, 2 RL 8.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 288 18.00 CASE Locations: RT, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 30 47 Center Torso (rear) 12 L/R Torso 20 30 L/R Torso (rear) 10 L/R Arm 16 31 L/R Leg 20 39 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LRM-10 CT 4 1 2.50 Artemis IV FCS CT - 1 1.00 2 ER Large Lasers LT 24 2 8.00 Targeting Computer LT - 5 5.00 2 Ultra AC/5s RA 2 6 14.00 @LRM-10 (Artemis) (24) RT - 2 2.00 @Ultra AC/5 (80) RA - 4 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 13 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 25 4j 3 3 3 0 4 2 Structure: 5 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 10:08:56 PM: So this is my first Shirke keeping the engine and jump jets, I added a supercharger. The weapons are more geared to the fight I think this Mech is made for Ultra AC/10 for as you close, Large Pulse Lasers to counter your jumping and an ATM-12 to provide support at all ranges.

I like it more than the standard one (or at least what I think is the standard one) but it feels like a poor remaike of the Executioner from TRO 3050?

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Shirke 2 Mass: 95 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 33,745,270 C-Bills Battle Value: 3,257 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 380 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h (86.4 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 2 Large Pulse Lasers 1 Ultra AC/10 1 ATM-12 Manufacturer: Clan Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 145 points 5.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 1 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 380 20.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 (8) Jumping MP: 4 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 2 LL, 2 RL 8.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 249 13.00 Armor Locations: 1 RT, 4 LA, 2 RA CASE Locations: RT, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 30 38 Center Torso (rear) 10 L/R Torso 20 30 L/R Torso (rear) 10 L/R Arm 16 26 L/R Leg 20 30 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATM-12 RT 8 5 7.00 2 Large Pulse Lasers LT 20 4 12.00 Targeting Computer LT - 5 5.00 Supercharger LT - 1 2.50 Ultra AC/10 RA 3 4 10.00 @ATM-12 (5) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-12 (ER) (5) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-12 (HE) (5) RT - 1 1.00 @Ultra AC/10 (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 2 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 8 Points: 33 5/4j 5 4 3 0 4 1 Structure: 5 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 10:22:39 PM: In my first Shirke post I asked if the Jade Falcons were nuts.... now I'm wondering if I am...

Dropped the speed this Mech is described as a sniper, lets make it one. The Jade Falcons seem to like ballistic weapons so this time I'm experimenting with a ProtoMech AC, not a clue why they called it a ProtoMech AC since it's heavier than most of them. I'm guessing the IS stole "Light" ::)

backing it are a pair of ER Large Lasers pretty much standard sniping weapons gives you that little extra range against the Hellstar. Finally (yes it only has 4 guns) is a Streak LRM-20 nasty as hell when it hits and it makes the most of the ammo 12 solid hits there.

Where did the rest of the tonnage go?? Well I fell into the bug of put Improved Jump Jets on everything :'( it seemed to fit with this Mech since a Partial Wing is a complete and utter waste of space (1 extra jump for 5 tons). Finally I coated the thing in Ferro Lamellor Armour, little hits like the LB-X autocannons seen on the canon Gryfalcon bounce off :)

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Shirke 3 Mass: 95 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 23,656,620 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,987 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 285 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor Armament: 1 Streak LRM-20 2 ER Large Lasers 1 Protomech AC/8 Manufacturer: Clan Jade Falcon Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 145 points 9.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 285 8.50 Walking MP: 3 Running MP: 5 Jumping MP: 5 Improved Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL 20.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 11(22) 1.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 273 19.50 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 8 LA, 3 RA CASE Locations: LT, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 30 43 Center Torso (rear) 11 L/R Torso 20 30 L/R Torso (rear) 10 L/R Arm 16 29 L/R Leg 20 36 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Streak LRM-20 RT 6 5 10.00 Targeting Computer RT - 3 3.00 2 ER Large Lasers LT 24 2 8.00 Protomech AC/8 RA 2 4 5.50 @Streak LRM-20 (12) LT - 2 2.00 @Protomech AC/8 (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 11 Points: 30 3/5j 4 4 4 0 4 0 Structure: 5 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 24, 2012, 11:24:29 PM: I for one happen to like the Gyrfalcon. in light of the Pariah, I took the machine as being the same but kinda opposite with the Limbs being used to house the main firepower and the torso dominated by crit sucking endo steel and ferro fib.

the twin larges and LB 2s make the Gyrfalcon an excellent general purpose medium. the lasers can give any assault mech something to think about, particularly since it slightly out ranges even clan ERPPCs, the LB 2s give the mech superior anti aircraft and anti vehicle capability as well. frankly in a BV balanced Trial a Gyrfalcon could feasibly win in a war of attrition against a hellstar.

all in all your variants are not bad, I was hoping to see some use of Talons in the mix.

FYI the wings were suppoused to be "Advanced Cooling systems" where heat sink coolant was run through them. this was represented in that most bird mechs heat dials, while prone to early shut down, could vent all the way back to green the next turn, hypothetically minimizing vunerability time.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 24, 2012, 11:45:39 PM: Quote from: JPArbiter on September 24, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
all in all your variants are not bad, I was hoping to see some use of Talons in the mix.

I was tempted but I tried to stick to to Dossier cards none mentioned talons or common use of physical attacks with the Mechs.

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FYI the wings were suppoused to be "Advanced Cooling systems" where heat sink coolant was run through them. this was represented in that most bird mechs heat dials, while prone to early shut down, could vent all the way back to green the next turn, hypothetically minimizing vunerability time.

they also use pretty much the exact tonnage missing using only the weapons used on the dossier cards. Didn't try talons they could possibly use same tonnage but give the look I went with wings.

Considering partial wings are fluffed as improving heat cooling it seems to work

Hadn't thought of the LB-X2 as AA platform, seems like something a MechWarrior would use if they got the chance but would prefer something heavier
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:52:21 AM: make no mistake, Clickwarrior had a bizzare fascination with Class 2 Autocannons, sometimes in a garbage way like the Ryoken II, sometimes in a stroke of Brilliance like with the Gyrfalcon...

Judge is still out on the Shiro, and frankly I can not wait to see what happens when the Wendigo makes Canon.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 25, 2012, 03:35:55 PM: Quote from: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
make no mistake, Clickwarrior had a bizzare fascination with Class 2 Autocannons, sometimes in a garbage way like the Ryoken II, sometimes in a stroke of Brilliance like with the Gyrfalcon...

Judge is still out on the Shiro, and frankly I can not wait to see what happens when the Wendigo makes Canon.

Saving grace of the Wendigo is it's an OmniMech, so it has a future even if the canon configs are horrible
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:04:55 PM: Quote from: Dragon Cat on September 25, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
make no mistake, Clickwarrior had a bizzare fascination with Class 2 Autocannons, sometimes in a garbage way like the Ryoken II, sometimes in a stroke of Brilliance like with the Gyrfalcon...

Judge is still out on the Shiro, and frankly I can not wait to see what happens when the Wendigo makes Canon.

Saving grace of the Wendigo is it's an OmniMech, so it has a future even if the canon configs are horrible

actually the Wendigo is a great Omni and a worthy replacement to the Nibori-Nin, at least the way I built it.

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Wendigo Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 10,578,750 C-Bills Battle Value: 723 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 20.5 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(24) 2.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 152 9.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 20 Center Torso (rear) 7 L/R Torso 12 18 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 8 14 L/R Leg 12 20 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 12,037,500 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 1,860 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 3.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT CASE Locations: LT, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra AC/2 RA 1 2 5.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 Streak SRM-6 LA 4 2 3.00 LRM-10 HD 4 1 2.50 @Ultra AC/2 (45) RA - 1 1.00 @LRM-10 (12) LT - 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 22 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 19 6 5 5 1 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:18:42 PM: Other variations of the Wendigo.

I created this configuration as an alternate general combat machine.

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================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 12,404,063 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,150 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00 ER Large Laser LA 12 1 4.00 ATM-6 LT 4 3 3.50 ECM Suite HD 0 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (10) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (ER) (10) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (HE) (10) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 23 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 22 6 4 4 3 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
And a close combat Bruiser meant to manuver then unleash hell.

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================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 12,817,500 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 1,846 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 3.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Heavy Medium Lasers RA 14 4 2.00 2 Heavy Medium Lasers LA 14 4 2.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 AP Gauss Rifle RT 1 1 0.50 Streak SRM-6 LT 4 2 3.00 AP Gauss Rifle LT 1 1 0.50 Light Active Probe HD 0 1 0.50 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 @AP Gauss Rifle (40) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 9 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 18 6j 6 6 0 0 2 1 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: OMNI, LPRB, RCN, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
And a broken terrain Sniper/Striker
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================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 15,456,563 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,311 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 9 (Improved) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 4 RT 9.00 CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00 SRM-6 HD 4 1 1.50 @SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 14 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 23 6/9j 4 4 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:35:09 PM: the Havoc, one of my favorite click tech lights. my interpretation fo some of the latter day information

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Havoc HVC-P6 Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 6,573,600 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,397 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 280 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 4 ER Medium Lasers 1 SRM-4 Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 280 8.00 Walking MP: 8 Running MP: 12 Jumping MP: 5 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 3 RT 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 119 7.50 CASE II Locations: 1 RT 1.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 16 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 8 11 L/R Torso (rear) 5 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 SRM-4 CT 3 1 2.00 Targeting Computer HD - 1 1.00 @SRM-4 (25) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 16 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 14 8/3j 3 3 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: CASEII, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
and my vairant, meant to be a C3 Spotter with a bad temper

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Havoc HVC-P6 Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 6,688,350 C-Bills Battle Value: 840 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 280 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 Medium VSPLs 1 C3 Computer (Slave) Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 280 8.00 Walking MP: 8 Running MP: 12 Jumping MP: 5 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 119 7.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 16 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 8 11 L/R Torso (rear) 5 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Medium VSPL RA 7 2 4.00 Medium VSPL LA 7 2 4.00 C3 Computer (Slave) HD 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 19 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 8 8/3j 3 2 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: C3S, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 25, 2012, 10:43:45 PM: one last one, the Scourge, verbatum translation of the 65 ton striker. I honestly think this mech is damned near perfect.

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Scourge SCG-WF1 Mass: 65 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 14,293,262 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,061 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 325 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 Gauss Rifle 4 ER Medium Lasers 1 Medium Pulse Laser Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 104 points 3.50 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 325 12.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 4 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 4.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous AV - 211 12.50 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 3 RT, 2 RA Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 21 32 Center Torso (rear) 10 L/R Torso 15 23 L/R Torso (rear) 7 L/R Arm 10 20 L/R Leg 15 30 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 ER Medium Lasers RA 20 4 4.00 Gauss Rifle LA 1 7 15.00 Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 21 5/3j 4 5 2 0 3 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
the best I did was shed some heat sinks and a ton of armor just to add a heavy duty gyro.

Scourge

Mass: 65 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3132
Cost: 18,858,812 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,051

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 325 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Gauss Rifle
4 ER Medium Lasers
1 Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 104 points 3.50
Internal Locations: 2 CT, 5 LT, 5 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 325 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 4 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 4.00
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Gyro: Heavy-Duty 8.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous AV - 195 11.50
Armor Locations: 1 HD, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 21 30
Center Torso (rear) 10
L/R Torso 15 20
L/R Torso (rear) 6
L/R Arm 10 20
L/R Leg 15 27

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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4 ER Medium Lasers RA 20 4 4.00
Gauss Rifle LA 1 7 15.00
Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) LT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 5

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 21
5/3j 4 4 2 0 3 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 26, 2012, 09:51:13 PM: now here is a mech that needs help. the Storm Raider was one of those mechs I would call... crazy. if you do your reasearch, you realize that it packs the same endo steel chassis as the Stiletto, and the Lexington Medium Grade armor is Light Ferro by guessing heavy grade brand is standard Ferro Fib according to Sarna.

anyway here is the most REASONABLE Storm Raider I could make. based on the dossier

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Storm Raider Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,074,785 C-Bills Battle Value: 635 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 Autocannon/10 1 Mace Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 4 LT, 3 RT, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 10 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL, 1 RL Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous AV - 93 5.50 Armor Locations: 2 CT, 3 LT, 2 RT Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 12 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 8 10 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 6 10 L/R Leg 8 10 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mace RA - 4 4.00 Autocannon/10 LA 3 7 12.00 @AC/10 (10) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 3 Points: 6 6 0 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: MEL, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 1/1/0
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 26, 2012, 09:56:47 PM: now my change involved simply a plasma rifle and Stealth armor to cover it until ti gets into range to use that mace. I would love nothing more then to give it TSM, but I can not find the Criticals thanks to the XL gyro... I should really stop so Dragon Cat can do this...

Storm Raider

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3132
Cost: 4,187,160 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,088

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor
Armament:
1 Plasma Rifle
1 Mace
1 Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 5 LT, 7 RT, 1 LA
Engine: Fusion Engine 210 9.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro: XL 1.50
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Stealth Armor AV - 112 7.00
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 11 14
Center Torso (rear) 5
L/R Torso 8 12
L/R Torso (rear) 4
L/R Arm 6 12
L/R Leg 8 14

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Mace RA - 4 4.00
Plasma Rifle LA 10 2 6.00
Guardian ECM Suite LT 0 2 1.50
@Plasma Rifle (10) LA - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 4

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 11
6 1 1 0 0 1 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: ECM, STL, MEL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 27, 2012, 11:14:40 AM: Quote from: JPArbiter on September 26, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
now my change involved simply a plasma rifle and Stealth armor to cover it until ti gets into range to use that mace. I would love nothing more then to give it TSM, but I can not find the Criticals thanks to the XL gyro... I should really stop so Dragon Cat can do this...

Been away a couple of days so not had a chance to look at any of the others, so please carry on, its interesting seeing what we think (and what others think) might come up in the rapidly approaching future.

Think it may be time to pick another victim ;D
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 27, 2012, 11:49:38 AM: Another one, pretty much straight forward for it no case

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Shockwave Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 8,372,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,256 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 250 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Ultra AC/10 1 ER Large Laser 1 LRM-10 Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 3 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 250 6.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 128 8.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 18 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 12 17 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 8 12 L/R Leg 12 15 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Large Laser RT 12 2 5.00 Ultra AC/10 LT 4 7 13.00 LRM-10 LT 4 2 5.00 @Ultra AC/10 (20) RT - 2 2.00 @LRM-10 (24) RT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 12 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 13 5 3 3 3 0 2 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 27, 2012, 11:56:11 AM: Based on the second one

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Shockwave 2 Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 8,222,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 949 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 250 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Ultra AC/10 1 Thumper Art. Cannon Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 250 6.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 128 8.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 22 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 12 20 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 8 10 L/R Leg 12 12 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra AC/10 RT 4 7 13.00 Thumper Art. Cannon LT 5 7 10.00 @Ultra AC/10 (20) RT - 2 2.00 @Thumper Cannon (40) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 9 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 9 5 2 2 2 0 2 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: ARTTC, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 27, 2012, 11:59:09 AM: yeah, the shockwave was a cruel joke to CBTers until TRO 3085 came around and made it... well GOOD!

as a Hint, I am going to be dropping the Tian Zong this evening.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 27, 2012, 12:09:14 PM: Quote from: JPArbiter on September 27, 2012, 11:59:09 AM
yeah, the shockwave was a cruel joke to CBTers until TRO 3085 came around and made it... well GOOD!

as a Hint, I am going to be dropping the Tian Zong this evening.

Forgot the shockwave was in that :o

Looking at the canon one the only thing I can really criticize it on is no CASE
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 27, 2012, 10:07:56 PM: the Tian Zong as it existed in the dossiers was the perfect mech sniper. Stealth armor, twin Gauss Rifles, and minimalist defensive armament. I deliberatly left the armor tonnage at below the maximum, thinking the stealth armor would proivide ample protection while the elite gunner took on targets from extreme range.

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Tian-Zong Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 16,016,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,146 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor Armament: 2 Gauss Rifles 2 ER Medium Lasers 1 Guardian ECM Suite Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 114 points 7.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 10 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Stealth Armor AV - 200 12.50 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 30 Center Torso (rear) 9 L/R Torso 16 25 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 12 20 L/R Leg 16 25 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 Gauss Rifle RT 1 7 15.00 Gauss Rifle LT 1 7 15.00 Guardian ECM Suite CT 0 2 1.50 @Gauss Rifle (24) RA - 3 3.00 @Gauss Rifle (24) LA - 3 3.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 21 4 2 2 2 0 3 2 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: ECM, STL, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 27, 2012, 10:12:26 PM: Three Words. STEALTH PLASMA RIFLES!

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Tian-Zong 2 Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 15,077,125 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,062 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 300 Light Fusion Engine Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor Armament: 2 Plasma Rifles 2 ER Medium Lasers 1 ER Small Laser 1 Guardian ECM Suite Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 114 points 7.50 Engine: Light Fusion Engine 300 14.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 17(34) 7.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA Gyro: Compact 4.50 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Armor: Stealth Armor AV - 200 12.50 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 30 Center Torso (rear) 9 L/R Torso 16 25 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 12 20 L/R Leg 16 25 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 Guardian ECM Suite LA 0 2 1.50 ER Small Laser LA 2 1 0.50 Plasma Rifle RT 10 2 6.00 Plasma Rifle LT 10 2 6.00 Targeting Computer CT - 4 4.00 @Plasma Rifle (30) RT - 3 3.00 @Plasma Rifle (30) LT - 3 3.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 21 4 4 4 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4 Special Abilities: ECM, STL, ENE, HT1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 28, 2012, 11:29:31 AM: pretty much what I found with the first one the Plasma rifles is interesting, disable an enemy Mech while others pound it to scrap
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 28, 2012, 11:52:36 AM: Remember, the Inner Sphere Plasma Weapons do 10 Damage to armor as well as 1D6 heat. if both hit that is a PSR roll.

it is the clan Tech Plasma Cannon that deals no damage (to heat tracking units) and 2D6 heat.

for both when fired against units that do not track heat (Infantry, tanks, support vehicles, Protomechs) it is thier damage, plus thier XD6 in Heat applied as damage.

Plasma Weapons and RACs are two items where arguably the Inner Sphere does it better then the clans.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 28, 2012, 12:05:25 PM: Seems we've ran out of true DA Mechs, so now the industrials not much to say other than I'd rather not pilot it

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AgroMech Mk II MOD Mass: 30 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped IndustrialMech Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-C Production Year: 3132 Cost: 1,151,863 C-Bills Battle Value: 306 Chassis: Unknown Industrial Power Plant: Unknown 120 I.C.E. Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Backhoe 1 Vehicle Flamer Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Industrial 51 points 6.00 Engine: I.C.E. Engine 120 8.00 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 0 0.00 Gyro: Standard 2.00 Cockpit: Industrial 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 72 4.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 10 10 Center Torso (rear) 3 L/R Torso 7 9 L/R Torso (rear) 2 L/R Arm 5 6 L/R Leg 7 8 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Backhoe RA - 6 5.00 Vehicle Flamer LA 3 1 0.50 @Vehicle Flamer (20) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 41 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 3 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: MEL, ENE, SRCH, EE
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 28, 2012, 12:09:09 PM: This one a large upgrade on the AgroMech Mk II, 5 tons heavier, and a proper weapon the Rotary Autocannon

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AgroMech MOD-B Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped IndustrialMech Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 1,402,875 C-Bills Battle Value: 427 Chassis: Unknown Industrial Power Plant: Unknown 105 I.C.E. Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Rotary AC/2 1 Combine Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Industrial 58 points 7.00 Engine: I.C.E. Engine 105 7.00 Walking MP: 3 Running MP: 5 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 0 0.00 Gyro: Standard 2.00 Cockpit: Industrial 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 72 4.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 10 Center Torso (rear) 3 L/R Torso 8 9 L/R Torso (rear) 2 L/R Arm 6 6 L/R Leg 8 8 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Combine RA - 4 2.50 Rotary AC/2 LA 1 3 8.00 @Rotary AC/2 (45) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 42 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 4 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: MEL, SRCH, EE
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on September 28, 2012, 12:18:15 PM: Tried to build this one as an IndustrialMech just didn't happen. Too much heavy components. In the dossier card it says it's a ground up re-build. So standard structure, and cockpit makes it buildable. 2 Machine Guns and 2 SRM-4 provide the firepower

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MiningMech MOD-B Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/D-E-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 1,831,005 C-Bills Battle Value: 343 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 105 I.C.E. Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 2 SRM-4s 2 Machine Guns 1 Heavy Duty Pile-Driver Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 58 points 3.50 Engine: I.C.E. Engine 105 7.00 Walking MP: 3 Running MP: 5 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 0 0.00 Gyro: Standard 2.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 40 2.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 7 Center Torso 11 6 Center Torso (rear) 1 L/R Torso 8 5 L/R Torso (rear) 1 L/R Arm 6 3 L/R Leg 8 4 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 SRM-4s RT 6 2 4.00 2 Machine Guns RA 0 2 1.00 Heavy Duty Pile-Driver LA - 8 10.00 @SRM-4 (25) RT - 1 1.00 @MG (200) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 35 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 1 Points: 3 3 0 0 0 0 1 2 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: MEL, SRCH, EE, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on September 28, 2012, 01:00:28 PM: I dunno, I think we can find some weird stuff, like the Malace, Neanderthal, Tiburon, the goofy Autocannon Firestarter, Shiro, Super Sick cyclops, or making some of the oddball Vultures configurations work.

also consider variants of established mechs like the warhammer IIC, Wasp, Thor Etc.

or some of the completly original mechs like the Phoenix Hawk L, Ursa, Warwolf and Wulfen, etc.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 01, 2012, 09:31:11 PM: the cave lion was long my favorite machine in Age of Destruction. Anima was an unstoppable monster in my hands for almost two years. my insparation for the Battletech cave lion is born from the Sphinx and the Scepticemia and distilling it's essence into a heavier more durable platform. like the sceptiscemia I envision the Cave Lion as an Omnimech, but it's Primary Configuration is as such.

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Cave Lion Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D Production Year: 3132 Cost: 19,132,750 C-Bills Battle Value: 3,366 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 2 ER PPCs 6 ER Medium Lasers Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 7 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 21(42) 11.00 Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 219 11.50 Armor Locations: 7 LA Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 34 Center Torso (rear) 12 L/R Torso 16 24 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 12 20 L/R Leg 16 30 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 ER PPC RT 15 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 4 4.00 ER PPC LT 15 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00 ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00 ER Medium Laser HD 5 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 3 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 34 5 6 6 3 0 3 0 Structure: 4 Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 01, 2012, 09:32:36 PM: the core Omnimech Chassis is as such.

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Cave Lion Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 21,344,531 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,030 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 28.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 7 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 219 11.50 Armor Locations: 7 LA Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 34 Center Torso (rear) 12 L/R Torso 16 24 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 12 20 L/R Leg 16 30 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 21,344,531 Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E BV2: 1,030 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 02, 2012, 01:47:40 PM: Primes a heat hog for sure
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 02, 2012, 04:03:13 PM: One of my personal favorite packs for the Dark Age "The Undead Lance" the fluff and the lead Mech

Welcome to Your Nightmare
â€˜Blood for Blood!!!â€™

The Undead Lance was born of fire and mystery. Some would even go so far as to claim that these former prisoners of the Areseppi Correctional Facility (Menkent) have the Devil himself as their unseen benefactor. With their ghastly appearance and almost supernatural talents, these warriors promise destruction to anyone who oppose them.

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Mortis MTS-PV-H Death The Reaper Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Mixed Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X Production Year: 3132 Cost: 19,078,938 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,360 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 (CL) Gauss Rifle 2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers 1 (IS) MML-5 w/ Artemis IV FCS 1 Hatchet 2 (CL) ER Micro Lasers Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Notable 'Mechs & MechWarriors: Morana Tichy Morana Tichy's past remained sealed to outsiders though most agree her conviction is related to the scar that mars her otherwise beautiful visage. Ruthless in combat she often pushes herself and machine to the limit to be victorious. With her Mortis "Death" she delivers just that to any unfortunate soul in her way. She often serves as the contact and the de facto organizer of her mercenary group currently going by the moniker of The Undead Lance. ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 1 RA Engine: XL Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 5 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL 5.00 Heat Sinks: (IS) Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 230 12.00 Armor Locations: 4 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: RT, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 36 Center Torso (rear) 9 L/R Torso 16 24 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 12 24 L/R Leg 16 32 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (IS) MML-5 RT 3 3 3.00 Artemis IV FCS RT - 1 1.00 (CL) ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00 (CL) ER Micro Laser RT 1 1 0.25 (CL) ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00 (CL) ER Micro Laser LT 1 1 0.25 (CL) Gauss Rifle RA 1 6 12.00 Hatchet LA - 5 5.00 @MML-5 (LRM Art-IV) (24) RT - 1 1.00 @MML-5 (SRM Art-IV) (20) RT - 1 1.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 3 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 8 Points: 24 5j 4 4 2 0 3 0 Structure: 4 Special Abilities: MEL, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 02, 2012, 04:03:43 PM: Quote from: Dragon Cat on October 02, 2012, 01:47:40 PM
Primes a heat hog for sure

the Prime is meant for layered fire, you lay of the ERPPCs by time you get to 10 hexes and rely on Volume of fire from six ER medium lasers to shred an opponent to pieces.

Interesting on the Mortis, I went an entirely different route I will share when I can open skunkworks.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 02, 2012, 04:20:36 PM: Code: [Select]
EXR-2X-M Exhumer War The Destroyer Mass: 55 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 12,187,340 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,766 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 330 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 LRM-15 w/ Artemis V FCS 2 Medium Pulse Lasers 2 Protomech AC/4s 4 ER Micro Lasers Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Notable 'Mechs & MechWarriors: Gonzalo Sanchez Rumoured to have no aversion to taking cockpit shots Gonzalo Sanchez would be considered a prolific killer of men if not for the cover of war. An apparent altercation outside his BattleMech led to his incarceration and the apprehension of his lance Mates. Who apparently also had none-to-righteous reputations. Where Sanchez and the others aquired their new BattleMechs is unknown, though rumour suggests they are backed by an unknown benefactor. His Exhumer, "War" has allowed Sanchez to pick-up where he left off in the conflicts of Men. ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 330 12.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Laser Heat Sink 10 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 182 9.50 Armor Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 28 Center Torso (rear) 7 L/R Torso 13 19 L/R Torso (rear) 7 L/R Arm 9 18 L/R Leg 13 25 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Micro Lasers CT 2 2 0.50 Medium Pulse Laser RT 4 1 2.00 ER Micro Laser RT 1 1 0.25 LRM-15 LT 5 2 3.50 Artemis V FCS LT - 2 1.50 Medium Pulse Laser LT 4 1 2.00 ER Micro Laser LT 1 1 0.25 Protomech AC/4 RA 1 3 4.50 Protomech AC/4 LA 1 3 4.50 @Protomech AC/4 (40) RT - 2 2.00 @LRM-15 (Artemis) (16) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 9 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 18 6 5 5 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 02, 2012, 04:41:59 PM: Code: [Select]
GDR-1D-M Gravedigger Pestilence The Infector Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Mixed Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X Production Year: 3132 Cost: 8,975,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,726 Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure Power Plant: Unknown 250 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Heavy Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE Armament: 1 (CL) Rotary AC/5 1 (CL) ATM-9 2 (CL) Large Chemical Lasers Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Notable 'Mechs & MechWarriors: Fetcin Casey Outwardly quiet and unassuming. Fetchin Casey didn't fair exceptionally well during his confinement, but he did keep a low-enough profile to emerge mosly unscathed. Apparently convicted for his connections to Black Market ammunition. Casey was happy to pick off where he left off upon his unscheduled release. In battle some claim he has eyes in the back of his head such is his uncanny ability to decimate several targets at once. Casey finds nothing but glee in his new Gravedigger, Pestilence, which affords him all the opportunity he needs for havoc. ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Composite Structure 83 points 2.50 Engine: XL Engine 250 6.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: (IS) Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: XL 1.50 Cockpit: Small 2.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous AV - 128 6.50 Armor Locations: 2 HD, 7 LT, 3 RT, 1 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL CASE Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT 1.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 18 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 12 17 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 8 12 L/R Leg 12 15 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (CL) ATM-9 RT 6 4 5.00 2 (CL) Large Chemical Lasers RA 12 4 10.00 (CL) Rotary AC/5 LA 1 8 10.00 @ATM-9 (ER) (7) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (HE) (7) RT - 1 1.00 @Rotary AC/5 (40) LT - 2 2.00 @Large Chem Laser (10) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 17 5 6 5 3 0 2 0 Structure: 1 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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CVR-A1-L Cadaver Famine The Eternal Mass: 30 tons Tech Base: Mixed Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,336,890 C-Bills Battle Value: 963 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor Armament: 1 (IS) MRM-10 w/ MRM Apollo FCS 2 (IS) Medium Lasers 1 (IS) Flamer 1 Guardian ECM Suite Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Notable 'Mechs & MechWarriors: Samad Abdul-Muhsi Abudul-Muhsi was one of the many prisoners from the Aresppi Correctional Facility on the planet of Menkent (formerly Prefecture VIII, Republic of the Sphere) who escaped during recent agressions between the Republic of the Sphere and Clan Wolf. One of the lance of mercenaries "unjustly" jailed on the planet, his survival skills led him to the more hospitable continent of Terrasota and the predetermined meeting spot where the lancemates reunited. Abdul-Muhsi pilots his Cadaver, Famine, with a defensive ability usually only possessed by assault-class pilots. ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 51 points 1.50 Internal Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 4 LA, 4 RA Engine: XL Engine 240 6.00 Walking MP: 8 Running MP: 12 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: (IS) Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Stealth Armor AV - 96 6.00 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 10 13 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 7 10 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 5 9 L/R Leg 7 12 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (IS) Flamer HD 3 1 1.00 Guardian ECM Suite CT 0 2 1.50 (IS) MRM-10 RT 4 2 3.00 MRM Apollo FCS RT - 1 1.00 (CL) Targeting Computer LT - 1 1.00 (IS) Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00 (IS) Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00 @MRM-10 (24) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 2 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 3 Points: 10 8 2 2 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1 Special Abilities: ECM, STL, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
As you can see I went for munch with this lance for a simple reason. They are fluffed as being supported by a mysterious benefactor and as pretty awesome in combat. Mixed or pure Clan tech rebuilds of each Mech was how I went. Extreme: Yes Fun: Yes :)

Also some of my favorite DA models
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 03, 2012, 09:46:34 PM: my version of the Mortis, also Munch Tastic with mixed tech, I exploit the bejesus out of TSM to give the mech the TSM Modifier on turn 1.

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Mortis Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Mixed Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X Production Year: 3132 Cost: 24,058,563 C-Bills Battle Value: 2,220 Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h (64.8 km/h) Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (97.2 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 240 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor Armament: 1 (CL) ER PPC 1 Hatchet 3 M-Pods Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Composite Structure 114 points 4.00 Engine: XL Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 (6) Running MP: 8 (9) Jumping MP: 8 Improved Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT 16.00 Heat Sinks: (IS) Single Heat Sink 10 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA+H TSM Locations: 1 HD, 4 LA, 1 RA Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 203 14.50 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 30 Center Torso (rear) 10 L/R Torso 16 20 L/R Torso (rear) 7 L/R Arm 12 20 L/R Leg 16 30 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hatchet RA - 5 5.00 (CL) ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 M-Pod RT 0 1 1.00 2 M-Pods CT 0 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 8 Points: 22 5/8j 1 1 1 0 3 1 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: TSM, MEL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 04, 2012, 05:54:52 AM: I tried to go with the DA feel for them all micro lasers being favourites mixing the tech on most and trying to match up the minis. I tried to make them pretty nasty too :) hopefully they get stated for real
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 04, 2012, 09:49:04 AM: Quote from: Dragon Cat on October 04, 2012, 05:54:52 AM
I tried to go with the DA feel for them all micro lasers being favourites mixing the tech on most and trying to match up the minis. I tried to make them pretty nasty too :) hopefully they get stated for real

the M Pods were born out of the studs in the right chest panel and the center torso, they seemed like a nice close combat asset.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 04, 2012, 02:03:35 PM: Quote from: JPArbiter on October 04, 2012, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: Dragon Cat on October 04, 2012, 05:54:52 AM
I tried to go with the DA feel for them all micro lasers being favourites mixing the tech on most and trying to match up the minis. I tried to make them pretty nasty too :) hopefully they get stated for real

the M Pods were born out of the studs in the right chest panel and the center torso, they seemed like a nice close combat asset.

I saw and thought missile launcher an MML fit nice so made a nice piece of mixtech along with hatchet originally I thought pure clanner but they don't like hatchets
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 08, 2012, 10:34:51 AM: okay I am back home after a weekend helping my friends move, so lets see what I have in store for us now...

I am going to touch on the three DCMS mechs next, the Rokurokubi, Hitosune Kozo and Shiro. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 08, 2012, 12:54:52 PM: Well I'm tuned in I've not seen these minis before so interest spikes

No love for some of these designs?
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 08, 2012, 01:34:59 PM: Quote from: Dragon Cat on October 08, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
Well I'm tuned in I've not seen these minis before so interest spikes

No love for some of these designs?

as far as the DCMS Samurai Mechs I gus over them and thier potential, then again Isaw the hidden genius of things like the LB2 on a mech that also packed 4 LRM 10s.

anyway I will hop on em when I get home from work.
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 08, 2012, 08:16:53 PM: the first DCMS "Shogunmech" as I like to call it is the light class Rokurokubi, which from what I have been able to gather is a Shinto Spirit that is roughly analagous in behaviour to eastern European Vampires. the Clicky tech Miniature had at it's equipment an autocannon in one arm and a sword in the other. before total Warfare I picturted this mech being built to be fast, and using surplus ultra autocannons from decomissioned Jagermechs and Daikyus.

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Rukurokubi Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,284,710 C-Bills Battle Value: 702 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 Ultra AC/5 1 Sword 1 C3 Computer (Slave) Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 58 points 3.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 10 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 119 7.00 Armor Locations: 7 LT, 7 RT Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 17 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 8 12 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sword RA - 3 2.00 Ultra AC/5 LA 1 5 9.00 C3 Computer (Slave) HD 0 1 1.00 @Ultra AC/5 (40) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 14 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 7 6 1 1 1 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: MEL, C3S, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
After Total Warfare came out I have take a more... literal approach to this mechs capabilities, utilizing the Plasma Rilfe to devastating effect to drain the life from it's targets.

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Rukurokubi Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,376,510 C-Bills Battle Value: 932 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 Plasma Rifle 1 Sword 1 C3 Computer (Slave) 2 B-Pods 2 A-Pods Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 58 points 3.50 Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 10 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 119 7.00 Armor Locations: 7 LT, 7 RT Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 17 Center Torso (rear) 5 L/R Torso 8 12 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 8 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sword RA - 3 2.00 Plasma Rifle LA 10 2 6.00 C3 Computer (Slave) HD 0 1 1.00 B-Pod RL 0 1 1.00 A-Pod RL 0 1 0.50 B-Pod LL 0 1 1.00 A-Pod LL 0 1 0.50 @Plasma Rifle (20) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 13 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 4 Points: 9 6 1 1 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: MEL, C3S, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 08, 2012, 08:28:57 PM: the shiro was designed to be a long range mobile fire support unit. it accomplished this with 4 LRM 10s and an often joked about LB-2X autocannon. the only Shogun mech we ever got semi hard stats for the 375XL provided mobility and a sword for close combat backup

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Shiro Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 17,949,750 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,329 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor w/ CASE Armament: 4 LRM-10s 1 LB 2-X AC 1 Sword Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 4 LT, 1 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 160 10.00 CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 20 Center Torso (rear) 7 L/R Torso 16 20 L/R Torso (rear) 7 L/R Arm 12 15 L/R Leg 16 20 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LB 2-X AC RA 1 4 6.00 Sword LA - 5 4.00 2 LRM-10s RT 8 4 10.00 2 LRM-10s LT 8 4 10.00 @LB 2-X (Cluster) (45) RA - 1 1.00 @LRM-10 (36) RT - 3 3.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 13 5 1 1 1 0 3 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: MEL, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, LRM 1/2/2, IF 2
I always liked the Shiro and picutre this to be one of many vairations of the mech. for example a close combat version...

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Shiro Mass: 75 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F Production Year: 3132 Cost: 25,028,500 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,796 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 375 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h (64.8 km/h) Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (97.2 km/h) Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor w/ CASE Armament: 1 Snub-Nose PPC 4 MRM-10s 1 Sword 1 Guardian ECM Suite Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 1 HD, 3 LA, 6 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 375 19.50 Walking MP: 5 (6) Running MP: 8 (9) Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Heavy-Duty 8.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H TSM Locations: 4 LT, 2 RT Armor: Standard Armor AV - 231 14.50 CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 23 35 Center Torso (rear) 11 L/R Torso 16 24 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 12 24 L/R Leg 16 32 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00 Sword LA - 5 4.00 2 MRM-10s RT 8 4 6.00 2 MRM-10s LT 8 4 6.00 Guardian ECM Suite CT 0 2 1.50 @MRM-10 (48) RT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 8 Points: 18 5 3 3 0 0 3 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: TSM, MEL, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on October 08, 2012, 08:41:46 PM: the Hitosune Kozo we no the least about. it has an autocannon, jumps, and a funky bladed weapon. the best way I could make it work is

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Hitosune Kozo Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Clan Invasion Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3063 Cost: 9,604,500 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,456 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 90 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Ultra AC/20 2 ER Medium Lasers 1 Retractable Blade Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Deployment: Additional: ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 6 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 3 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT 1.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 136 8.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 18 Center Torso (rear) 7 L/R Torso 12 13 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 8 16 L/R Leg 12 16 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Retractable Blade RA - 4 3.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 Ultra AC/20 CT/RT 8 1/9 15.00 @Ultra AC/20 (10) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 15 6/2j 4 4 0 0 2 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: MEL, SAW, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
so lets take a step back and try not to replicate game stats, but make an awesome medium mech. my first job was to say "to hell with the autocannon." and go from there.

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Hitosune Kozo Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Clan Invasion Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3063 Cost: 11,014,500 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,449 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Heavy PPC 2 Medium Pulse Lasers 1 Hatchet 1 C3 Computer (Slave) Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Deployment: Additional: ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 6 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 4 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 4 CT 2.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Compact 4.50 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 152 9.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 20 Center Torso (rear) 7 L/R Torso 12 20 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 8 14 L/R Leg 12 20 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hatchet RA - 4 4.00 2 Medium Pulse Lasers LA 8 2 4.00 Heavy PPC RT 15 4 10.00 C3 Computer (Slave) HD 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 14 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 14 6/3j 3 3 2 0 2 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: MEL, C3S, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: Dragon Cat on October 11, 2012, 05:11:40 PM: Based on the Nova Cat Omni from the DA era, at least one of them was fluffed as having the ability to put heat onto their targets while the other has a pair of shoulder mounts that look like it may be infantry weapons.

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================================================================================ Loadout Name: DA Cost: 19,836,167 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 3,101 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 4 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 4.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 19(38) 8.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 3 RT, 2 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angel ECM RT 0 2 2.00 Targeting Computer LT - 4 4.00 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 2 ER PPCs LA 30 4 12.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 31 4j 5 5 5 0 3 1 Structure: 4 Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, ENE, HT2, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA ================================================================================ Loadout Name: DA 2 Cost: 18,950,573 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F BV2: 1,979 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP Gauss Rifle RT 1 1 0.50 Angel ECM RT 0 2 2.00 Light Active Probe RT 0 1 0.50 AP Gauss Rifle LT 1 1 0.50 Targeting Computer LT - 4 4.00 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 Heavy Flamer RA 5 1 1.50 2 Large Chem Lasers LA 12 4 10.00 @AP Gauss Rifle (40) RT - 1 1.00 @Heavy Flamer (20) RA - 2 2.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 @Large Chem Laser (40) LA - 4 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 7 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 20 4 5 5 3 0 3 1 Structure: 4 Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, LPRB, RCN, CASE, HT2, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Title: Re: Dark Age Mechs done for CBT
Post by: JPArbiter on November 15, 2012, 10:38:16 PM: the firestarter is the most interesting of the classic mechs to be used in the Dark Age. there was an overflamer variant (INFANTRY BEWARE!!!) a RAC variant, and then this beast
(https://obtforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warrenborn.com%2FUnitSection%2FAOD%2FAOD114.jpg&hash=9208c0b1bd7fafdbecfc6df9851d273d7c86c363)

I did not know what to make of this until total warfare came out...

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FireStarter FS-10D Mass: 35 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Dark Ages Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E Production Year: 3132 Cost: 5,800,613 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,162 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 180 meters Armor: Unknown Standard Armor Armament: 1 Plasma Rifle 1 ER Medium Laser 3 ER Small Lasers 2 Flamers 1 Beagle Active Probe Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 4 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 Jumping MP: 6 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 3.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Armor: Standard Armor AV - 88 5.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 11 13 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 8 10 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 6 7 L/R Leg 8 7 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plasma Rifle RA 10 2 6.00 3 ER Small Lasers LA 6 3 1.50 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 Beagle Active Probe LT 0 2 1.50 (R) Flamer CT 3 1 1.00 Flamer CT 3 1 1.00 @Plasma Rifle (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 3 Points: 12 6j 2 2 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2 Special Abilities: PRB, RCN, ENE, HT1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
it retains the forward and rear facing flamers, and the use of a plasma weapon in one arm makes up for the lack of four flamers total. the ditching of the Machine guns in favor of an ER laser arra provides more anti battle armor viability and this puppy became a scary, if underarmored force recon mech as a result. not bad for an FS9-S@ upgrade

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