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The middle picture I think I know that mech and what it is. I will get back to you.

Good stuff Ronin! This is a tough assignment I grant you. You have to visually inspect each picture and determine its appropriate weight class plus weaponry. Not an easy thing and leaves a lot to the imagination. Before I go over yours in detail (they look pretty good at first glance) I'll show you what I came up with for the ugly Mech. 

Star Python

Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3055
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          35 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   210 GM XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 Medium Pulse Lasers
  3 Small Pulse Lasers
  1 Ultra AC/5
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Star Python
Mass:          35 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  58 pts Endo Steel            14      2.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine:        210 XL Fusion                12      4.50
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               6       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   99 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 6 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             11         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  4     
   L/R Side Torso:            8      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              3/3     
   L/R Arm:                   6      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   8      13/13     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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1 Medium Pulse Laser     RA      4           1      2.00
1 Small Pulse Laser      RA      2           1      1.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser     LA      4           1      2.00
1 Small Pulse Laser      LA      2           1      1.00
1 Ultra AC/5             LT      1   20      6     10.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 Small Pulse Laser      HD      2           1      1.00
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TOTALS:                         16          78     35.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        5,244,075 C-Bills
Battle Value:      722
Cost per BV:       7,263.26
Weapon Value:      504 / 504 (Ratio = .70 / .70)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 17;  MRDmg = 5;  LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 2/1
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/2/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 7
Was working on fluff and design when Ronin posted his two. I reasoned that the ugly Mech was a Light design and a visual inspection of the weaponry led me to give it an Ultra AC/5, two Medium Pulse Lasers, and three Small Pulse Lasers. So where did that leave me with fluff? Well there is one blurb in the CS SB that refers to the Star Python (which I was gonna call this) and the Galahad.

Both European facilities began manufacturing new BattleMechs based on Star League-era designs but using modern modifications. Two of these, the Star Python and the Galahad, have already been shipped to Com Guard garrisons across the Inner Sphere.

So I was thinking originally a prototype SLDF design perhaps never intended for deployment. It became a test bed production design for the ComGuards with all that SL era weaponry and equipment (Ferro-Fibrous and Endosteel). Either an urban warfare specialist (UrbanMech ugly too) or an anti-Elemental Mech. Often confused with the Nexus (another reference to the CS CB) which is also built by Skobel MechWorks.

Takiro, first of, I like your Star Python. But I don't see the Mech in the picture having to identical arms, the right arm looks more like a single barrel to me. Anyway, I don't have a simple refit handy so let
Oh, and you might want to re-check your armor calculation. According to SSW, 5.5 tons of ff are 98 points, not 99.

re the Galahad: I'm glad you like the weapon load. There wasn't much inspiration taking from the Rifleman II, I was just trying to grab as many shiny new toys as possible and since none of those weapons looked like a gauss rifle to me, I took both new autocannons and throw in some fitting energy weapons. I was quite satisfied when I realised, that the weapon pairs in both arms add up to the same weight.
That said, making it faster sounds good and the tie-in with the Lancelot makes for some nice fluff, so I'm all in favor for the changes.

Depends.
If you want to keep the Mech as city fighter / anti-elemental mech, I'd just drop the small pulse laser from the right arm and invest the remaining ton in armor, ammo or armor and case. (I'd put it armor and case, so you can fluff it as enhancing pilot survivability)

If you want to turn the mech in a long range fire support, you could mount a er large laser. To get the necessary 2 tons, you could either reduce the armor to near suicidal 3.5 tons, downgrade all other lasers to standard models and keep the armor level as is or downgrade either the medium or the two small lasers to standard models and reduce the armor by a ton.
If you want a fire support mech, I'd take an inspiration from the Nexus and mount firepower above all else, means I'd take the version with only 3.5 tons of armor.

you mean something like this?

Star Python

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3055
Cost: 5.453.325 C-Bills
Battle Value: 984

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: GM 210XL 210 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: Rawlings 60
    Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: StarGuard 3056 Ferro-Fibrous Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    2  Medium Pulse Lasers
    2  Small Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    58 points                2,00
    Internal Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             210                       4,50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 5 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   2,50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 119                  7,00
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 5 LA, 7 RA

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     11           17       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     8            11       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     6            12       
                                             L/R Leg     8            16       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Medium Pulse Laser                           RA        4         1         2,00
Medium Pulse Laser                           LA        4         1         2,00
Small Pulse Laser                            LA        2         1         1,00
Large Pulse Laser                            RT        10        2         7,00
Small Pulse Laser                            HD        2         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 10
6/3j       3       3       0       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SOA


That would certainly be nasty in a city.

Well, the most practical way to fit in a sixth jump jet I can think of, would be to switch the armor for 6.5 tons of standard, This way you'd loose 15 points of armor.