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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2020, 01:11:03 PM »
Okay gang, I've been doing a lot more of these designs for the Salient Horizon setting as well as analyzing the zero heat design principle and looking at all available weapons (Level 1) we can use at this time. This lead me to re-evaluate one of the first ICE designs I posted here long ago the Gargantua. While it can do 58 points of damage it is not a zero heat design so I redesigned it as the Gargantuan. It is zero heat and has a little more range even if it is only 52 points of damage at most. I envision this as a Taurian design which addresses somewhat their lack of assault designs. Which one do like the best??

Gargantua
Design Basis: Atlas AS7-D (9,626,000 C-bills)
Weight Displacement: 100 tons (5,466,666 C-bills)
Equipment                           Mass
Internal Structure:                        10
Engine:            200 ICE            17
   Walking MP:         2
   Running MP:         3
Power Amplifiers:                        .5
Heat Sinks:            17               17
Gyro:                              2
Cockpit:                           3
Armor Factor:            304               19
Weapons and Ammo:   Location      Critical
AC/20             Right Torso      10         14
Ammo (AC/20) 10      Right Torso      2         2
LRM 20         Left Torso      5         10
Ammo (LRM) 12      Left Torso      2         2
Medium Laser         Right Arm      1         1
Medium Laser         Left Arm      1         1
Medium Laser         Center Torso      1         1
Small Laser         Center Torso      1         .5


Gargantuan
Design Basis: Atlas AS7-D
Weight Displacement: 100 tons
Equipment                           Mass
Internal Structure:                        10
Engine:            200 ICE            17
   Walking MP:         2
   Running MP:         3
Power Amplifiers:                        0
Heat Sinks:            15               15
Gyro:                              2
Cockpit:                           3
Armor Factor:            304               19
Weapons and Ammo:   Location      Critical
AC/10             Right Arm      7         12
Ammo (AC/10) 20      Right Torso      2         2
LRM 20         Left Torso      5         10
Ammo (LRM) 12      Left Torso      2         2
SRM-6          Right Torso      2         3
Ammo (SRM) 15      Right Torso      1         1
5 Machine Guns      Left Arm      5         2.5
Ammo (Machine Gun) 100   Left Arm      1         .5
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2020, 05:56:53 PM »
I've similarly retooled the Jupiter with a little fluff. Replaced the Large Laser with a Medium and the AC/5 with a AC/10. What do you think?

Jupiter
Design Basis: Zeus
Weight Displacement: 80 tons
Equipment                           Mass
Internal Structure:                        8
Engine:            240 ICE            23
   Walking MP:         3
   Running MP:         5
Power Amplifiers:                        .5
Heat Sinks:            11               11
Gyro:                              3
Cockpit:                           3
Armor Factor:            184               11.5
Weapons and Ammo:   Location      Critical
Medium Laser         Left Torso      1         1
LRM 15         Right Arm      3         7
Ammo (LRM) 16      Right Torso      2         2
AC/10            Left Arm      4         8
Ammo (AC) 20      Left Arm      2         2

The pride and joy of the Marian Hercules Project is this Auxiliary BattleMech based on the Zeus. Named for the Supreme Roman Deity it is a capable assault war machine in terms of firepower and speed. While the armor is a little lacking and minor overheating could occur if continued Alpha Strikes were carried out the Hegemony is very satisfied with its new ‘Mech which often serves as a command element for Auxiliary forces. 
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2020, 06:55:06 PM »
Fang
Design Basis: Stinger
Weight Displacement: 20 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                2
Engine:                                   80 ICE                                    5
   Walking MP:                       4
   Running MP:                       6
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                            2                                              2
Gyro:                                                                                       1
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        64                                           4
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
2 Machine Guns        Right Arm            2                      1
2 Machine Guns               Left Arm              2                      1
1 Machine Gun                 Center Torso        1                      .5
Ammo (MGs) 100            Left Torso            1                      .5

The Fang is apparently a pirate ICE Mech based on the Stinger alleged being produced on some unknown bandit world out in the Deep Periphery. Its manufacturer, euphemistically named Parts Unknown, has thus far eluded all intelligence efforts to root out further details leaving us to speculate here on its design. Since Alphard Trading Corporation considers this ‘RetroTech’ proprietary there is a high degree of probability that this Marian firm has something to do with it. Both the company and the Hegemony repeatedly denied these ‘outrageous accusations’ publicly stating that ‘they would never fund terrorist Mech attacks.’ Evidence seems to back these assertions and so for now we are all left to wonder where the Fang came from. Conspiracy theorists insist that the Marians had help putting the entire ‘low-tech’ Mech industry that they are now profiting from and that some unknown party is actually behind the whole thing. Whatever its origins the Fang is becoming an all too common sight with bandits along the Periphery Anti-Spinward regions.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2020, 04:40:18 PM »
I need to find time to write down my ideas about Primitive 'Mechs.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2020, 10:02:44 PM »
Love to hear what you think bud! For now here is my knock off Cicada!

Geocoris
Design Basis: Cicada
Weight Displacement: 40 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                4
Engine:                                   200 ICE                                17
   Walking MP:                       5
   Running MP:                       8
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                            2                                              2
Gyro:                                                                                       2
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        136                                         8.5
   Weapons and Ammo:       Location       Criticals             
2 Machine Guns                  Right Arm          2                      1
2 Machine Guns                  Left Arm            2                      1
Machine Gun                      Center Torso       1                      .5
Ammo (MGs) 100              Right Torso         1                      1
Remote Sensor Dispenser   Center Torso       1                      .5

This ‘big-eyed bug’ based on the Cicada is the medium scout ICE Mech made by the Kaliphard Cooperative at Kendall for Jeffrey’s Liberation Battalions. The bigger brother of the Gnat features the same maximum speed, five Machine Guns, and a Remote Sensor Dispenser. While more weapons and equipment were considered designers opted for the maximum amount of armor protection. Eight and a half tons is more than double the amount of the Cicada allowing it to take more than a fair amount of punishment. Often paired with a couple of Gnats in a Scout Lance because of their identical speed profiles these fast ‘RetroMechs’ have proven quite capable in their role.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2020, 03:02:29 PM »
Firebird
Design Basis: Phoenix Hawk
Weight Displacement: 45 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                4.5
Engine:                                   180 ICE                                14
   Walking MP:                       4
   Running MP:                       6
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 .5
Heat Sinks:                            8                                              8
Gyro:                                                                                       2
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        152                                         9.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
Medium Laser                    Right Arm          1                    1
Medium Laser                    Left Arm             1                    1
Machine Gun                      Right Arm           1                    .5
Machine Gun                      Left Arm             1                    .5
Ammo (MG) 100                Right Torso        1                    .5

The Firebird is one of the flagship products from Freebird Enterprises based on the Phoenix Hawk. Often utilized as a command element for lighter ICE Mech lances in Jeffrey Marik's Liberation Battalions because it has the speed to keep up with these faster formations. The Firebird features two Medium Lasers which is rare for these RetroMechs because of these energy weapons higher heat curve. Two Machine Guns round out its armament which is complemented by maximum armor protection thanks to eight and half tons of standard plating.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2020, 08:20:53 PM »
Blackbird
Design Basis: Shadow Hawk
Weight Displacement: 55 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5.5
Engine:                                   165 ICE                                12
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                            8                                              8
Gyro:                                                                                       2
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        152                                          9.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
AC/5             LT      4      8
Ammo (AC) 20       LT      1      1
LRM-5          RT      1      2
Ammo (LRM) 24       RT      1      1
SRM-4            H      1      2
Ammo (SRM) 25      RT      1      1

The Blackbird is a Periphery Marik ICE Mech modeled after the venerable Shadow Hawk. Built by Freebird Enterprises on Illyria as one of their two flagship war machines it has earned a place as a Medium Fire Support asset in Jeffrey Marik's Liberation Battalions. Armed with an Autocannon/5 and an LRM-5 rack the Blackbird has solid long-range pop which is supplemented by an SRM-4 for close quarters fighting. Only able to go fifty-four kilometers per hour it mounts the same armor protection as its forbearer which is pretty significant for its size.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2020, 10:35:49 PM »
Sandfly
Design Basis: Wasp
Weight Displacement: 20 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                2
Engine:                                   80 ICE                                    5
   Walking MP:                       4
   Running MP:                       6
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 .5
Heat Sinks:                            4                                              4
Gyro:                                                                                      1
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        56                                            3.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
Medium Laser           Right Arm            1                      1

The Sandfly is a Light RetroMech based on the Wasp manufactured by Caliphate Arms on the world of Ayn Tarma. The first such design produced in the newly established Tarmanid Sultunate has been spotted in the service of several Islamic worlds within the fractured Free Worlds League. From the Andurien front on Kanata and Mosiro to the Ideyid Planetary Militia and the Ghanzi Planetary Militias this twenty-ton war machine continues to rapidly proliferate. This primitive Mech has even been spotted on the not too distant bandit world of Astrokaszy. Sporting a Medium Laser gives it better range than most Light ICE ‘Mechs as well as no ammunition concerns. Combined with its reasonable speed a number of these pests can make things difficult for normal BattleMechs.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2020, 07:29:47 PM »
Badger
Design Basis: Wolverine
Weight Displacement: 55 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5.5
Engine:                                   165 ICE                                12
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                            9                                              9
Gyro:                                                                                       2
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        152                                          9.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
AC/5             RA      4      8
Ammo (AC) 20       RA      1      1
SRM-6            H      2      3
Ammo (SRM) 15      RT      1      1
Medium Laser         H      1      1

While some accuse the Commonality Defenses of Lesnovo with outright intellectual theft of the WVR-6R Wolverine when it comes to the Badger they don’t seem to care. Built using techniques developed and licensed by the Alphard Trading Company this RetroMech closely matches the performance of its predecessor. Feilding the exact same armament and armor layout of the Wolverine the shorter-range Badger works well with the longer ranged Blackbird in Marik Liberation units. The one thing that makes it stand out from other ICE Mechs is its heat dissipation system which can’t alleviate a Running Alpha Strike. Mechwarriors should be ware that repeated maximum exertion could tax the cooling system.


Onager
Design Basis: Trebuchet
Weight Displacement: 50 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5
Engine:                                   150 ICE                               11
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 .5
Heat Sinks:                             7                                             7
Gyro:                                                                                     2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        120                                          7.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
LRM-20         RT      5      10
Ammo (LRM) 12      RT      2      2
2 Medium Lasers      LT      2      2

It is said that the Onager is part Trebuchet and part Hunchback because of the design compromises made in order to bring it to life. Initially developed by Hercules MechWorks its half-finished concept was licensed out to Commonality Defenses of Lesnovo as other simpler designs came online. Rimward engineers unable to deal with the substantial heat of the Trebuchet’s twin LRM-15s the decision was made to go with a single LRM-20 for fire support which gave it a bit of a Hunchback feel. Additionally, like the Badger it is not a ‘zero heat principle ICE Mech design’ and can overheat. Mechwarriors are advised to bracket fire LRMs or Lasers depending on their opponents range while alternating movement for maximum effect.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2020, 10:07:10 PM »
Legionnaire
Design Basis: Centurion
Weight Displacement: 50 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5
Engine:                                   150 ICE                               11
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                             5                                             5
Gyro:                                                                                     2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        136                                          8.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
Autocannon/10       RA      7      12
Ammo (AC) 20      RA      2      2
2 Machine Guns      CT      2      1
Ammo (MG) 100      LT      1      .5

Aside from the creation of the Jupiter there was no RetroMech more important to the Marian Hegemony then the Legionnaire. This primitive version of the Centurion manufactured at Hercules MechWorks on Alphard was to be the very standard bearer of Nova Roma. Unfortunately, design limitations hampered its development and forced some hard compromises. With a max speed of 32 kilometers per hour judged too slow by the Caesar himself use of a smaller 100 ICE power plant was out of the question. With a 150 ICE now mandatory to achieve an acceptable maximum speed of 54 kilometers per hour there was not a lot of space for weapons and equipment. Since an Autocannon/10 was another priority of the Caesar designers left it in place but had to remove the LRMs altogether and replace the Medium Lasers with Machine Guns. While this certainly diminished the arsenal of the Centurion it was judged to be acceptable by the Hegemony who quickly put this machine into production.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2020, 04:24:35 PM »
Mameluke
Design Basis: Dervish
Weight Displacement: 55 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5.5
Engine:                                   165 ICE                               12
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                             9                                             9
Gyro:                                                                                     2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        128                                          8
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
LRM-15         RT      3      7
Ammo (LRM) 16      RT      2      2
SRM-6          LT       2      3
Ammo (SRM) 15       LT      1      1
2 Machine Guns      RA      2      1
2 Machine Guns      LA      2      1
Ammo (MG) 100      LT      1      .5

The Mameluke modeled after the Dervish was designed along the same lines as the Onager. Caliphate Arms combined missile racks to minimize heat generated and exchanged Machine Guns for Medium Lasers. While this technique somewhat reduced the performance of its arsenal when compared to its predecessor it is still quite capable. A 165 ICE Power Plant enables it to reach a maximum speed of 54 kilometers per hour while eight tons of armor plating is a slight improvement over the Dervish. Like the Sandfly, it can be seen in the service of Islamic warriors in the Free Worlds League fighting in the 3rd Marik Civil War.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2020, 07:05:15 PM »
Squire
Design Basis: Chameleon
Weight Displacement: 50 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                5
Engine:                                   200 ICE                               17
   Walking MP:                       4
   Running MP:                       6
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 .5
Heat Sinks:                             9                                             9
Gyro:                                                                                     2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        112                                          7
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
Large Laser                             RA      2                      5
2 Machine Guns      CT      2      1
Ammo (MG) 100      LT      1      .5

Eager to dispel persistent insinuations that it was supplying RetroMech technology to bandits Alphard Trading Corporation generously financed the birth of Hope Industrial Works of Randis IV. This anti-pirate endeavor by the Brotherhood of Randis would augment the strength of their benevolent organization by producing ICE Mech for potential Mechwarriors. To that end they designed the Squire which was based on the Chameleon in order to train future Knights. Together with the lighter Page these units would work in concert with a Mechwarrior Knight as part of a Trinity. This subunit of a true BattleMech lance would in theory compose a ‘Light Company’ which could triple the size of the Brotherhood rapidly if need be. Also, this new concept enabled individual Brothers to engage in ‘quests’ with the support of these ‘Primitive Mechs’.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2020, 07:45:58 PM »
Page
Design Basis: Mongoose
Weight Displacement: 25 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                2.5
Engine:                                   125 ICE                                8
   Walking MP:                       5
   Running MP:                       8
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                             2                                             2
Gyro:                                                                                      2
Cockpit:                                                                                  3
Armor Factor:                        72                                           4.5
   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
2 Machine Guns                  Right Arm          2                      1
2 Machine Guns                  Left Arm            2                      1
Ammo (MGs) 100              Right Torso         1                      .5
Remote Sensor Dispenser   Center Torso       1                      .5

The Brotherhood of Randis choose to emulate their second RetroMech after the Star League Mongoose. Named the Page for the youngest assistants of a Knight this ‘Primitive Mech’ will serve in much the same fashion as its namesake. More of a fast messenger with a Remote Sensor Dispenser that can help scan the battlefield it does possess light armament. Four Machine Guns which can deal effectively with infantry aren’t meant to enable it to be a true fighter. That will be left to a True Brother’s BattleMech rather than his retinue which will only serve to supplement his operations.
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Re: Ice Project (ICE Mechs)
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2020, 09:35:15 PM »
Drake
Design Basis: Dragon
Weight Displacement: 60 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                6
Engine:                                   180 ICE                                14
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 0
Heat Sinks:                             7                                             7
Gyro:                                                                                      2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        160                                         10

   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
LRM-10          CT      2      5
Ammo (LRM) 24      LT      2      2
AC/5            RA      4      8
Ammo (AC) 20      RT      1      1
Machine Gun         LA      1      .5
Machine Gun          LT (R)      1      .5
Ammo (Machine Gun) 100   LT       1      1

As Rasalhague expatriates settled on Illyria a number of their battered war machines became the basis for RetroMechs developed by Freebird Enterprises. The Drake mimics the Dragon’s capabilities almost perfectly with the normal changes or downgrades made to almost every Primitive ‘Mech. Machine Guns replaced Medium Lasers and the ICE powered design could only match its predecessor’s cruising speed at maximum acceleration. The Drake was immediately pressed into service with Jeffrey Marik’s Liberation Battalions during the 3rd Marik Civil War where they performed adequately in combat often against superior foes.


Wrangler
Design Basis: Quickdraw
Weight Displacement: 60 tons
   Equipment                                                                        Mass                       
Internal Structure:                                                                6
Engine:                                   180 ICE                                14
   Walking MP:                       3
   Running MP:                       5
Power Amplifiers:                                                                 .5
Heat Sinks:                             9                                             9
Gyro:                                                                                      2
Cockpit:                                                                                 3
Armor Factor:                        200                                         12.5

   Weapons and Ammo:    Location       Criticals             
2 LRM-5s          LT      2      4
Ammo (LRM) 48      LT      2      2
LRM-5         CT      1      2
Medium Laser         RA      1      1
Machine Gun         RA      1      .5
Medium Laser         LA      1      1
Machine Gun         LA      1      .5
Small Laser         RT      1      .5
2 Machine Guns       RT (R)      2      1
Ammo (Machine Gun) 100   RT      1      .5

Commonality Defenses of Lesnovo has recently introduced the Wrangler RetroMech based on the Quickdraw. With three LRM-5s, two Medium Lasers, Small Laser, and four Machine Guns it may actually exceed the QKD-4G arsenal in some ways. Nine Heat Sinks mainly allow for bracket firing but are capable of a one-time Alpha Strike without significant overheating effects. Twelve and a half tons of armor provide nearly full protection for this sixty-ton RetroMech which far exceeds the Quickdraw. However, the Wrangler is slower than its forerunner but this is typical for these primitive war machines.
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