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The Vulcan II was cleary designed to full two roles, the first being a C3 Spotter, the second being an anti infantry mech.  the problem with small pulse lasers is that while they are nasty to mechs up close and do the job against infantry, they are NOT ideal for fast jumpers in massive quantities.  the use of paired quad MG arrays solves the problem, creating a more heat efficent and damaging mech, even with the third medium pulse laser removed to make space.


Vulcan II VLC-N3

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 7,499,193 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,022

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 280 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Medium Pulse Lasers
    2  MG Array (4 MG)s
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    67 points                2.00
    Internal Locations: 5 LA, 5 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             280                       8.00
    Walking MP: 7
    Running MP: 11
    Jumping MP: 7 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   3.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 136                  8.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     12           17       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  6         
                                           L/R Torso     10           15       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     6            12       
                                             L/R Leg     10           20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Pulse Laser                           RA        4         1         2.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           LA        4         1         2.00
MG Array (4 MG)                              RT        -         1         0.50
    4 Machine Guns                           RT        0         4         2.00
MG Array (4 MG)                              LT        -         1         0.50
    4 Machine Guns                           LT        0         4         2.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1.00
@MG (200)                                    CT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 10
7j         3       2       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: C3S, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Let me get this out of the way.  I LOVE the Culvrin.  a Heavy, Stealth equipped Omnimech is unique, creative, and something no one  as far as I have seen has even ATTEMPTED.  Rather then redesign something unique fromt he ground up I am going to go with a vehicle hunting variant.  this beats runs hot, but if it can sneak up on a target, then it can stun the piss out of it with the cannons, or shut down the stealth and rip it out.


Culvrin CLV-N

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 18,581,719 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,098

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor
Armament:
    35.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     114 points                7.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Stealth Armor                AV - 216                 13.50
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     23           35       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     16           23       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     12           22       
                                             L/R Leg     16           28       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guardian ECM Suite                           CT        0         2         1.50
                                            Free Critical Slots: 31

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 11
4          0       0       0       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA




================================================================================
Loadout Name: C                                              Cost: 21,326,484
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,979

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plasma Rifle                                 RA        10        2         6.00
Plasma Rifle                                 LA        10        2         6.00
Plasma Rifle                                 RT        10        2         6.00
LB 10-X AC                                   LT        2         6        11.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           CT        0         2         1.50
(R) ER Small Laser                           HD        2         1         0.50
@Plasma Rifle (20)                           RA        -         2         2.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      RT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         RT        -         1         1.00
@Plasma Rifle (10)                           RT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 20
4          3       3       1       0      3     1   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, CASE, HT1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 0/0/0

Tagged for later comment!

Is your Praetorian the new Daikyu?

The joke, of course, is only one that Bad Syntax and I can appreciate.  Maybe John Baker, too. 

With the exception of the Praetorian, those changes you made are largely the way the machines started out in the first place. 

Go ahead and ask around for a copy of an old Prototoype, back when they were available to the public for review.  Take a look.

We made the changes very reluctantly.  Especially the Nightsky, which had an HPPC.  But they had to be made.

As for a design not being Davion without an autocannon... we didn't design that to be Davion, though it is used by that House.  We designed it to be an effective Federated Commonwealth machine that could be credibly deployed in the Outback.  House flavor was only one of many things we considered.  It was by no means the most important.

Cent13

so I read in the blog, I largely disagreed with Syntax's influence and stating "With no hard numbers blah blah blah."  numerous technologies have been around since 3058 such as Compact engines, advanced Gyroscopes, Improved jump Jets, and Light Autocannons.  the selective use of PPC Capacitors and the heretofore unheard of till Tac Ops Blazer was just as much fiat as "no legit dates for Heavy PPC Development."

Well, to be fair to Bad Syntax, his was not the only voice raising concerns over the issue of anachronism.  He was merely the only one who was willing to help fix it.  I took a number of inputs, wrangled over it and came up deciding to go with what we have.

One reason was made clear to me: we are fans.  We have nowhere near the supply of handwavium that the creators of the game have.  We don't have fiat, as such, since what we are doing is not canon.  I gradually came to understand that it was going to be easier for the average BT reader to suspend their disbelief over blazers and PPC Caps than it would be to try and explain away the appearance - in a production model! - of equipment that might be as far as eight years from its official release date - with a completely different faction.

But yours are good, too.

Cent13

Seems like you are getting pretty good at this.  Have you thought about sitting down and doing a TRO of your own?

Heck, maybe you can take the TRO:3063 and redo it, sort of an 'Improved 3063' the way you think it should have been.

Of course, getting new art will be kind of expensive, but no expects these things in a *hurry*, especially after what I went through.

Cent13