Topic: Optimizing the Scorpion (Read 30099 times)

Abele · « **Reply #45 on:** October 29, 2020, 01:14:29 PM »

Developed on Terra by Skobel Mechworks they chose to go in a different direction by giving it an all energy-based weapon battery. The twin extended range large lasers are matched with a large pulse laser and a brace of medium lasers. All of this can be fit on the chassis due to the use of an extra-light fusion engine. While its normal operating speed has been decreased it can still attain its original speed due to the application of triple-strength myomers. Armor protection is limited to a mere 11.5 tons of standard armor which is an increase of greater than 50%. Fifteen double heat sinks are fitted to the chassis, but are not nearly enough to keep the Mech cool in intense combat situations.

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Scorpion SCP-2X

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3054
Dry Cost: 11,055,117 C-Bills
Total Cost: 11,055,117 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,556

Chassis: Brigadier 800F Standard
Power Plant: VOX 275 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h (64.8 km/h)
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (97.2 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: StarSlab/4 Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  ER Large Lasers
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    2  Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Skobel Mechworks
    Primary Factory: Terra
Communications System: Garret 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: Garret GRNDTRK 9

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
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Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                5.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             275                       8.00
    Walking MP: 5 (6)
    Running MP: 8 (9)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             15(30)                    5.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: H+UL+LL+F    R: H+UL+LL+F
    TSM Locations: 1 FLL, 1 FRL, 2 RLL, 2 RRL
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 184                 11.50

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           26        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  9         
                                           L/R Torso     13           19        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                       L/R Front Leg     13           22        
                                        L/R Rear Leg     13           22        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser                            CT        10        2         7.00
(R) Medium Laser                             RT        3         1         1.00
ER Large Laser                               RT        12        2         5.00
(R) Medium Laser                             LT        3         1         1.00
ER Large Laser                               LT        12        2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 3

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 16
5          3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: TSM, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Abele · « **Reply #46 on:** October 29, 2020, 01:31:39 PM »

After acquiring the designs specifications for the Scorpion from the Brigadier Corporation, the engineers at Free World Defense Industries through their subsidiary Gibson Federated Battlemechs chose to equip their new Scorpion with a new 330 XL developed from the 320 XL used in the GOL-3M Goliath.
To give it a new look, a new binary laser cannon replaces the old PPC while the missile battery now features an Artemis IV FCS-equipped LRM10 launcher. Backup firepower comes a medium pulse laser and a rear-firing standard medium laser.

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Scorpion SCP-3M

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3054
Dry Cost: 11,493,250 C-Bills
Total Cost: 11,553,250 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,366

Chassis: Brigadier 800F Standard
Power Plant: VOX 330 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: StarSlab/4 Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  Binary Laser Cannon
    1  LRM-10 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    1  Medium Pulse Laser
    1  Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Brigadier Corporation
    Primary Factory: Oliver (destroyed 2837)
Communications System: Garret 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: Garret GRNDTRK 9

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                5.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             330                      12.50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: H+UL+LL+F    R: H+UL+LL+F
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 170                  9.50
    Armor Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 3 RT, 2 FLL, 2 FRL, 2 RLL, 2 RRL
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           26        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     13           19        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                       L/R Front Leg     13           17        
                                        L/R Rear Leg     13           21        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Pulse Laser                           HD        4         1         2.00
(R) Medium Laser                             CT        3         1         1.00
Binary Laser Cannon                          RT        16        4         9.00
LRM-10                                       LT        4         2         5.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           LT        -         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (12)                       LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 4

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 14
6          3       3       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1

Abele · « **Reply #47 on:** October 29, 2020, 02:09:36 PM »

Baron Gennady Zdenekov, the second of the Duchess of Gienah, was on Solaris VII when the Clans invaded fighting as a gladiator in the Solaris Arenas after serving ten years with the 32nd Lyran Guards before he retired early' He's noted for fighting in his family's Scorpion with great gusto. It has been refit to fight in the arenas and had the PPC removed and the engine replaced with a standard 275 engine. By the end of his career it was fit with a pair of SRM6 launchers, a single SRM4 launcher backed a pair each of standrd and pulsed medium lasers.

Upon hearing of the invasion he left the arenas and went to have his Scorpion bought back to a condition more fit for service in the AFFC. Using his family's wealth he spared no expense. He had Norse-Storm Technologies install an experimental 330 XL engine into the chassis. This left room for two pieces of Norse-Storm equipment, the M-7D Gauss Rifle and an ECM suite. Three Defiance B3M medium lasers provide backup fire power while it is now protected by 8.5 tons of ferro-fibrous armor. Now fitted with the most powerful found on a Battlemech, the Baron felt he was ready for combat and requested re-admission into the Armed Forces.

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Scorpion SCP-S7

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-D-D
Production Year: 3070
Dry Cost: 4,748,167 C-Bills
Total Cost: 4,829,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,264

Chassis: Brigadier 800F Standard
Power Plant: VOX 275 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: StarSlab/4 Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  SRM-6
    2  Medium Pulse Lasers
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  SRM-4
Manufacturer: Brigadier Corporation
    Primary Factory: Oliver (destroyed 2837)
Communications System: Garret 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: Garret GRNDTRK 9

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                5.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                275                      15.50
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: H+UL+LL+F    R: H+UL+LL+F
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           25        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     13           19        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                       L/R Front Leg     13           16        
                                        L/R Rear Leg     13           17        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                                 HD        3         1         1.00
SRM-4                                        CT        3         1         2.00
Medium Laser                                 CT        3         1         1.00
SRM-6                                        RT        4         2         3.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RT        4         1         2.00
SRM-6                                        LT        4         2         3.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           LT        4         1         2.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  RT        -         1         1.00
@SRM-4 (25)                                  RT        -         1         1.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 23

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 13
5          5       5       0       0      2     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 2/2/0

Refit version used when recalled to service in Lyran branch of Armed Forces of the Federated Commonwealth.

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Scorpion SCP-3S

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3054
Dry Cost: 11,561,450 C-Bills
Total Cost: 11,601,450 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,551

Chassis: Brigadier 800F Standard
Power Plant: VOX 330 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: StarSlab/4 Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Norse-Storm M-7D Gauss Rifle
    3  Defiance B3M Medium Lasers
    1  Norse-Storm Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Norse-Storm Technologies Inc.
    Primary Factory: Solaris (Refit)
Communications System: Garret 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: Garret GRNDTRK 9

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                5.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             330                      12.50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: H+UL+LL+F    R: H+UL+LL+F
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 152                  8.50
    Armor Locations: 5 LT, 1 RT, 2 FLL, 2 FRL, 2 RLL, 2 RRL

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     18           22        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     13           18        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                       L/R Front Leg     13           16        
                                        L/R Rear Leg     13           16        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                                 HD        3         1         1.00
Gauss Rifle                                  RT        1         7        15.00
(R) Medium Laser                             RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           LT        0         2         1.50
@Gauss Rifle (16)                            CT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 1

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 16
6          3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ECM, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Takiro · « **Reply #48 on:** October 29, 2020, 10:02:41 PM »

Nice to see you made it Abele!

One day left to go for new entries!!!!

Bradshaw · « **Reply #49 on:** October 30, 2020, 01:12:16 PM »

Born from the struggles in the Battles of Twycross this Scorpion Prototype came into being after the Twycross TMM attempted to ambush a star of Toads in a local oil refinery. Attempting to burn the pursuers in the conflagration that followed a improvised explosive. Local forces quickly learned that the long used flamer and inferno rounds were ineffective slowing these armored opponents. It wasn't until the second Battle of Twycross when a point of Toads exposed to an exploding train containing the acidic Aqua Regia was a new weakness found against these foes.

Brainstorming at the NAIS was quickly devoted towards delivery methods of acidic compounds against the weaknesses inherent in ferro fibrous armor. As samples of Clan armors were brought in and tested against various compounds, two methods were quickly utilized one a militarization of a standard fluid sprayer and the other is a gelled version of the acid installed in the warheads of certain types of short range missiles.

Utilizing the Scorpion as the test bed for these weapons systems was chosen for its commonality and use in infantry support roles. While no plans are being made for mass production at this time a few of the designs have been produced and are being tested in the games of Solaris.

With weapons as the basis for this prototype the engine has been downgraded by two levels down to the max speed of only 64 kph. Keeping with the trial run of experimental technologies a battery of twin SRM's loaded with the AX warheads have been included. For the Fluid Guns a single one has been added in each leg for 360 degree coverage of the 'Mech. Twin Medium Lasers were added as an afterthought for a common weapon to be used in the Solaris battles. Jump Jets have been added for experimentation of jump jets included on a quad design.

Further studies will show if these schematics will become a new norm for the battlefield or will fade like many other improvisations over the years.

Quote from: Bradshaw on October 19, 2020, 07:33:19 PM

Scorpion Solaris

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Introduction Year: 3051 Cost: 4,885,083 C-bills Battle Value: 1,133 Mass: 55 tons Chassis: Standard Quad Power Plant: 220 Fusion Cruising Speed: 43.2 kph Maximum Speed: 64.8 kph Jump Jets: Standard Jump Capacity: 120 meters Armor: Standard Armament: 2 Medium Laser 4 Fluid Gun 2 SRM 6 Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communication System: Unknown Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown Equipment Mass Internal Structure 5.5 Engine 220 Fusion 10 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 4 Double Heat Sink 10 [20] 0 Gyro 3 Cockpit 3 Armor Factor 168 10.5 Internal Armor Structure Value Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 22 Center Torso (rear) 7 R/L Torso 13 20 R/L Torso (rear) 5 FR/L Leg 13 20 RR/L Leg 13 20 Weapons Location Critical Heat Tonnage SRM 6 LT 2 4 3.0 SRM 6 RT 2 4 3.0 2 Medium Lasers CT 2 3 2.0 Fluid Gun RRL 2 0 2.0 Fluid Gun FRL 2 0 2.0 Fluid Gun RLL 2 0 2.0 Fluid Gun FLL 2 0 2.0 SRM 6 Ammo (15) LT 1 - 1.0 SRM 6 Ammo (15) RT 1 - 1.0 Fluid Gun Ammo (20) RT 1 - 1.0 Fluid Gun Ammo (20) LT 1 - 1.0 CASE RT 1 - 0.5 CASE LT 1 - 0.5 Double Heat Sink RT 3 - 1.0 Double Heat Sink LT 3 - 1.0 2 Jump Jets LT 2 - 1.0 2 Jump Jets RT 2 - 1.0

Takiro · « **Reply #50 on:** October 30, 2020, 03:29:31 PM »

Very nice Bradshaw!!

A little more than eight and a half hours remaining in this contest!

Takiro · « **Reply #51 on:** October 31, 2020, 07:47:17 AM »

Ok folks, this contest is all over. No more entries please. Looking forward to the next one!

Takiro · « **Reply #52 on:** August 09, 2021, 06:11:35 PM »

The Scorpion might just be the very best contest that I’ve ever reviewed here for BattleTech Salient Horizons. A total of twenty-nine exceptional entries were submitted back in October 2020 full of innovative concepts and new factory possibilities. Anything but a badly thought of Quad Mech hardly in service you six designers gave me wonderful tempting possibilities almost too good to turn down. I suppose the modernization of the Quad would provide a natural impetuous for some of this new interest in the Scorpion. Clearly it is a favorite here though and the six winners below plus two unique versions will leave their mark on this alternate universe.

   CONTENDERS
16. SCP-2X (Abele)         ComStar TSM Large Lasers
15. SCP-3M (Abele)         Marik Blazer, LRM-10 Artemis
14. SCP-2M (masterarminas)       Marik, concept, rugged, fire support
13. SCP-1FC (Bradshaw)      FedCom, rugged, accurate, militia
12. SCP-RCT (Bradshaw)      FedCom anti-infantry
11. SCP-3S (drakensis)      FedCom, high-tech (5/8), MASC, Blazer, LRM-20 Artemis

   NEAR MISS
10. SCP-2CA (Irose)         Steiner AC/20
9. SCP-2FC (masterarminas)      FedCom high-tech mobile striker done at Oliver

   UNIQUES
8. SCP- Zdenekov (Abele)      Solaris VII Gladiator Zdenekov & Hightech Anti-Clan refit
7. SCP-Solaris (Bradshaw)      Solaris Gladiator, slow, acid attacker, innovative

   WINNERS
6. SCP-2CS (masterarminas)      ComStar high speed scout leader/hunter done at Terra
5. SCP-Canopian (Irose)      Canopian Scorpions done at Maranatha
4. SCP-2T (masterarminas)      Taurian low-tech upgrade done at Illushin
3. SCP-Gibson series (Ice Hellion)   Marik ‘simple’ & high-tech refits done at Gibson
2. SCP-2K series (Irose)      Kurita C3 Brawler & C3M Fire Support done at Telos IV
1. SCP-2S (Irose/masterarminas)   Steiner scout series done at Furillo

The top spot goes to Irose and masterarminas together as I am combining their ‘Steiner’ Scorpion made at Furillo by Defiance Industries into one. Both exceptional approaches were similar enough in my estimation to be joined and out of their seven entries five will be folded together for Salient Horizons. The 2S series as I am calling it will use Irose’s 2S as the basis for its variants which include his 2FSU (twin LRM-15s) and his 2H (LB 10-X) as well as masterarminas’ 2S (Gauss) and the 2Sb (AC/20). The 2CA by Irose and the 2FC by masterarminas narrowly lost out and were placed in the near miss category. Really liked the complementary 2K series by Irose as well which placed second with Ice Hellion’s mysterious Gibson series coming in third. Both low-tech Periphery Scorpions by masterarminas (Taurian) and Irose (Canopian) were also spot on as was the 2CS by masterarminas. This high-speed scout commander/hunter is wonderful but leaves me with one question I’d like to resolve.

How would ComStar publicly approach the large investment in the Scorpion given its failed betrayal of the same name (Operation Scorpion) that happened so very recently? Don’t get me wrong, I love the design which is why it made it into the winner’s circle but that should certainly be addressed. What spin would you put on it?

Finally, there are two unique variations of the Scorpion that will also be joining the Salient Horizon setting. I liked the Zdenekov story by Abele to include this personage and his Mech as well as Bradshaw’s Solaris ‘Acid Attacker.’ While not as prolific as the ‘winners’ they will indeed have a place in my universe. Thanks again everyone for such an awesome contest!

Bradshaw · « **Reply #53 on:** August 09, 2021, 06:18:47 PM »

No love 💔 for the love bug. Too funny my gimmick one made into the universe though

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #54 on:** August 13, 2021, 12:41:06 AM »

Congratulations to both winners.

Takiro · « **Reply #55 on:** August 13, 2021, 06:05:08 AM »

Any thoughts on ComStar so publicly embracing the Scorpion after their ill-fated operation?

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #56 on:** August 13, 2021, 08:00:04 AM »

Quote from: Takiro on August 13, 2021, 06:05:08 AM

Any thoughts on ComStar so publicly embracing the Scorpion after their ill-fated operation?

The poor 'Mech had nothing to do with this failure... Are they rationale or superstitious ?

Takiro · « **Reply #57 on:** August 13, 2021, 04:13:47 PM »

Quote from: Ice Hellion on August 13, 2021, 08:00:04 AM

Quote from: Takiro on August 13, 2021, 06:05:08 AM
Any thoughts on ComStar so publicly embracing the Scorpion after their ill-fated operation?

The poor 'Mech had nothing to do with this failure... Are they rationale or superstitious ?

How many people are really rationale when it comes down to it? I just think it needs to be addressed cause outsiders will draw their own conclusions especially for an organization that is supposedly trying to get over its past.

I was thinking that either Focht or York could say that 'one has nothing do with the other but at the same time Operation Scorpion was part of our past.' I don't know how much of the sacrifice of those who just tried to carry out the will of a misguided Primus you would try to honor but it did happen.

Bradshaw · « **Reply #58 on:** August 13, 2021, 04:37:36 PM »

Maybe it will be a scorpion that actually succeeds unlike their plot

Perhaps the designer was a sympathetic member of the plot....

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2021, 02:45:10 AM »

Quote from: Bradshaw on August 13, 2021, 04:37:36 PM

Maybe it will be a scorpion that actually succeeds unlike their plot

Perhaps the designer was a sympathetic member of the plot....

Or go for a name related but in an another language.

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