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Optimizing the Spider
« on: October 11, 2019, 09:45:59 PM »
Contest number six will showcase one of my favorite BattleMechs (Robert Takiro’s original in fact), the Spider. Fast and highly maneuverable the light fighter has already been the object of my modification during our home campaign with a Solaris variant as well as a Varangian Guard unit. I will post those schematics next but right now I am pleased to announce after a two-challenge absence the Mech of the Week Article is back with MotW Article: Spider from the CBT Forums linked below together with the BattleTech wiki for your inspection.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,8039.0.html

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Spider

Optimal Design Thoughts on the Spider

Role. Initially commissioned as a Special Operations unit by the Star League the Spider was a popular scout ‘Mech until the destruction of its factory by Amaris forces. Today any remaining units from this time can be found in every Successor State’s military and some larger mercenary units as well. The FWLM and the DCMS possess the greatest number of Spiders thanks to their own domestic production. The Wolf Dragoons once possessed four of these special recon assets which was the most of any private force.

Factories. 2 [1]

[DESTROYED] New Earth (Newhart Industries) Terran Hegemony
       First built in 2650 as an export to member-state militaries this plant was destroyed in 2776 during the SLDF’s liberation of New Earth.

Tematagi (Nimakachi Fusion Products Limited) Free Worlds League/ Rim Commonality
After the Free Worlds League managed to secure this BattleMech’s technical schematics from the ruins of the Terran Hegemony it tasked Nimakachi with the building of the design. In exchange the company received exclusive rights to the Spider. [No date given but I’d assume this was sometime during the 1st Succession War]

Lapida II (Nimakachi Fusion Products Limited) Draconis Combine/ Dieron Military District
Referred to as ‘Tematagi Minor’ which saw production of the Spider expanded after the designs initial seizure by the Free Worlds League. [Since the SDR-5K was introduced in 2850 this could be an indicator of manufacturing beginning in the Combine]

Internal Structure. Unlike our last challenge we have some choices here thanks the prolific three ton Newhart 1200 chassis original as well as an EndoSteel lostech upgrade. In 3051 the Crucis - II Delux was introduced by the SDR-7M built by both Nimakachi facilities. As always you'll have decide which is more advantageous for your upgraded design.

Engine. Here again we have the opportunity to embrace the old or the new thanks to the widely available 240 Fusion Engine and it's high tech Extra Light equivalent. No less than five different industrial plants make the 240 XL under three different brand names. This is great for our Spider as the original Pitban 240 took up eleven and a half tons. Using a bulky XL would free up five and a half tons but the choice of course is yours.

Jump Jets. The eight Pitban LFT-10 jump jets are sort of an integral part of the Spider. While the 7M replaces these with proprietary Rawlings 75 jump jets and a few canon variants reduce the overall number of jets none eliminate them. As such your entries should all feature these lift devices which my vision of the design and canon seem to agree on. 

Heat Sinks. A 240 rated engine can nearly mount all ten integral heat sinks for this BattleMech save one. So that is either one critical for regular olde Heat Sinks or three for Double Heat Sinks which I’d probably recommend especially cause the Spider’s large jumping ability generates so much heat.

Cockpit & Gyro. Usually I say not much to be done here but thanks to the fluffy quirks of the BattleTech universe I will actually say put a damn ejection system on this darn thing. I can’t believe it doesn’t freaking have something that basically every other ‘Mech in the stinking Human Sphere takes for granted. I demand a fluffy upgrade here!

Armor. As with the Javelin this 30-ton Mech has a 105 maximum armor factor and with 6.5 tons of standard armor a near max 104 armor factor could be generated. Not bad. InnerSphere Ferro-Fibrous (x 1.12) brings you slightly over max factor with 6 tons of that advanced armor generating a 108 factor. I don’t like wasting armor points but 5.5 tons only gets you to a 99 armor factor. In any event ferro-fibrous is only gonna save you a half a ton or a ton at most. I’d rather go with EndoSteel but Ferro-Fibrous is far more available and easier to refit existing models.

Weapons & Equipment. Thanks to its enormous maneuverability the Spider had only two Medium Lasers originally which is something we can certainly improve especially if we create a mobile light fighter. Energy weapons are probably the order of the day here but you may want to incorporate some advanced electronics as the Spider is an excellent scout platform.

Design Criteria
Design: Spider Light BattleMech
Era: 3052, just following the Truce of Tukayyid
Tech: InnerSphere Level 2
Mass: 30 tons
Jump Jets: a must!
Cockpit: (3 tons) plus an ejection system!!

Tech Base
The tech base for this enterprise will be InnerSphere Level 2, also known as Star League lostech, circa 3053. Remember some Level 1 standards which Bradshaw and myself think still have value like Large Lasers and PPCs which feature the same damage factor as their higher tech brethren with less range and perhaps most significantly less heat. I've also become a fan of massed LRM-5s over the larger batteries (Free Worlds League in particular has gone in this direction) which could provide closer equivalents to Clan LRMs. Here is a list for your design reference. Let me know if there is anything I missed!

Star League LosTech
Anti-Missile System
Arrow IV Artillery Missile System
Extended Range Large Laser (ER Large Laser)
Extended Range Particle Projection Cannon (ER PPC)
Gauss Rifle
Ultra Autocannon/5
LB 10-X Autocannon
One-Shot Missile Packs
Pulse Lasers (Small, Medium, & Large)
Streak SRM-2
Swarm LRMs
Thunder LRMs
Artemis IV FCS
Beagle Active Probe
Guardian ECM Suite
Myomer Accelerator Signal Circuitry (MASC)
Narc Missile Beacon
TAG
Cellular Ammunition Storage Equipment (CASE)
Double Heat Sinks
Endo Steel Internal Structure
Ferro-Fibrous Armor
Extra Light (XL) Engine

InnerSphere Low Tech
Blazer Cannon (or Binary Laser)
Recon Camera
Remote Sensor Dispenser

New Innovations
Triple Strength Myomer
Hatchet
C3 Computer

The Spider is arguably a Kurita Mech that while built by Marik is not the biggest user however it also seems to be available to the other Successor States as well. Don’t forget ComStar either who maybe upgrading its forces post-Tukayyid or mercenaries all with a thought of defeating the Clans. They certainly don’t seem to be deployed in numbers outside Draconis space as lone examples seem to roam regiments. Not sure if the Periphery nations would have a few of these to modify but I suppose it is possible. Please do your research (think Objective Raids) for available components as this will be another factor in rapid production. I love fluff and your designs will be featured in my BattleTech Salient Horizon alternate setting.

I'd like to go beyond the refits bought to you by Technical Readout 3050 and delve into extensive redesigns of your BattleTech favorites. Sharpen up your favorite war machines perhaps drawing on past or current variants while remembering the spirit or role of these Mechs. Don't forget to justify the expense of your project and multiple winners are possible. Figure that all entries have to be completed and posted on these forums by Friday October 25, 2019 by 11:59 PM which should give you all a full two weeks for this contest, good luck!!
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2019, 09:50:22 PM »
Here is an incomplete upgraded Spider I called the Dreamweaver which utilizes a 240 XL Engine from the Rifleman with other high-tech components like EndoSteel coming from the 7M. I had to retain Durallex Light armor as too many criticals were taken up by other things but I did manage to triple the amount of Medium Lasers to six. It is similar to a few Spiders we fought with on Solaris. Let me know what you think, I may work on her.

SDR-8R DREAMWEAVER

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Crucis-II Deluxe Endo Steel
Power Plant: 240 XL
Cruising Speed: 86 kph
Maximum Speed: 129 kph
Jump Jets: Rawlings 75
   Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Durallex Light
Armament:
6 Aberdovey Mk III Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products Ltd.
Primary Factory: Tematagi
Communications System: Omicron 4002 Networking Channel
Targeting and Tracking System: TRSS Eagle Eye


Type: Dreamweaver
Technology Base: Inner Sphere - Level 2
Tonnage: 30

Equipment                        Mass
Internal Structure:         EndoSteel         1.5
Engine:            240 XL          6
Walking MP:         8
Running MP:         12
Jumping MP:         8
Heat Sinks:            10 (20)            0
Gyro:                           3
Cockpit:                         3
Armor Factor:            104            6.5

Internal Structure   Armor Value
Head            3         9
Center Torso         10         14 / 5
R/L Torso         7         10 / 4
R/L Arm         5         10
R/L Leg         7         14

Weapons and Ammo      Location      Critical   Tonnage
Medium Laser         Center Torso      1      1
Medium Laser         Center Torso      1      1
Medium Laser         Right Torso      1      1
Medium Laser         Right Torso      1      1
Medium Laser         Left Torso      1      1
Medium Laser         Left Torso      1      1
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2019, 09:56:01 PM »
A refit of the Spider made by the Draconis Combine, maintaining the original twin medium lasers in the Center Torso the 6k variant utilizes the gained tonnage of an endo steel internal structure by incorporating a C3 slave unit for an increase in its scouting capabilities and allows for a slight increase in its armor protection.

Spider SDR-6K

Code: [Select]
Weight: 30 tons
BV: 674
Cost: 3,492,840 C-bills

Movement: 8/12/8
Engine: 240
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 71/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)

                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10      9   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7      8   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      8   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      6   
Left Arm                    5      6   
Right Leg                   7      9   
Left Leg                    7      9   

Weapons       Loc  Heat 
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Medium Laser   CT    3   
Medium Laser   CT    3   

Equipment            Loc 
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C3 Computer [Slave]   HD 
A play on the standard variant the 6M boosts its already impressive maneuverability and mobility with replacing the stock 240 engine with a new bulkier but lighter Hermes 300 XL Engine also used on the ON1-M Orion. Keeping the traditional twin Medium Lasers this variant adds a small laser for an additional punch at short ranges.

Spider SDR-6M

Code: [Select]
Weight: 30 tons
BV: 739
Cost: 5,912,465 C-bills

Movement: 10/15/10
Engine: 300 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 71/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10      9   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7      8   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      8   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      6   
Left Arm                    5      6   
Right Leg                   7      9   
Left Leg                    7      9   

Weapons       Loc  Heat 
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Medium Laser   CT    3   
Medium Laser   CT    3   
Small Laser    HD    1   
With the Capellans purchasing some of the production from their future inlaws. The CDF has gone with the resource costly move of swapping out the stock 240 engine for an XL variant used on the Rifleman. Upgrading the twin medium lasers instead to a single ER Large variant. Hoping the long range weapon choice will increase the life span of this expensive redesign. For additional survivability an antimissile system has been added.

Spider SDR-6C

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Weight: 30 tons
BV: 865
Cost: 5,294,640 C-bills
Source: TRO 3050 - Clan Invasion
Role: Striker

Movement: 8/12/8
Engine: 240 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 80/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     12   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7      9   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      9   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      7   
Left Arm                    5      7   
Right Leg                   7     10   
Left Leg                    7     10   

Weapons              Loc  Heat 
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ER Large Laser        CT   12   
Anti-Missile System   HD    1   

Ammo                           Loc  Shots 
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Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS]   LT     12 
With the shortened lifespan of the Hachetman due to Clan hatred of melee weapons the FC has been forced to speed up production of many of their component parts including it's 180 XL engine. Utilizing some of these engines the FC Department of the Quartermaster purchased a large number of older Spiders from the FWL. Utilizing engines from the Hatchetman the new 6D while not maintaining the top end speed and maneuverability of the traditional design it does has a large increase in its damage output, with twin Large Lasers installed. Making the 6D variant more of a light mech hunter than its traditional role of scout.

Spider SDR-6D

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Weight: 30 tons
BV: 851
Cost: 3,994,640 C-bills
Source: TRO 3050 - Clan Invasion
Role: Striker

Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 180 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 80/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     12   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7      9   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      9   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      7   
Left Arm                    5      7   
Right Leg                   7     10   
Left Leg                    7     10   

Weapons      Loc  Heat 
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Large Laser   LT    8   
Large Laser   RT    8   
TAG           HD    0   
A variant seen with some mercenary spiders the M2 variant removes the medium pulse lasers and some of the jump jets and instead utilizes that tonnage for a max armor protection of a 'Mech of this weight class.

Spider SDR-7M2

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Weight: 30 tons
BV: 776
Cost: 3,001,440 C-bills

Movement: 8/12/6
Engine: 240
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 105/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     15   
Center Torso (rear)                5   
Right Torso                 7     11   
Right Torso (rear)                 3   
Left Torso                  7     11   
Left Torso (rear)                  3   
Right Arm                   5     10   
Left Arm                    5     10   
Right Leg                   7     14   
Left Leg                    7     14   

Weapons       Loc  Heat 
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Medium Laser   CT    3   
Medium Laser   CT    3   
Another variant from Marik the 9M is a simple replacement of the Medium Pulse Lasers for instead 4 of the standard Medium Lasers. With a lack of range of the Medium Pulses many Marik Pilots while appreciating the increased accuracy of the Pulses especially after jumping nearly 240 meters in some issues under tight conditions. The max range just puts their lightly armored tin cans into short range of to many opposing 'Mechs to their liking.


Spider SDR-7M

Code: [Select]
Tonnage: 30
Cost: 3,245,840 C-bills
Battle Value: 836

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure            Endo Steel            1.5
Engine                        240 Fusion           11.5
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8
Double Heat Sink              10 [20]                 0
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          53                      3

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         6     
     Center Torso            10        8     
     Center Torso (rear)               3     
     R/L Torso               7         6     
     R/L Torso (rear)                  2     
     R/L Arm                 5         5     
     R/L Leg                 7         5     


Weapons and Ammo      Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage   
2 Medium Lasers          CT        2        3       2.0   
Medium Laser             RT        1        3       1.0   
Double Heat Sink         RT        3        -       1.0   
4 Jump Jets              RT        4        -       2.0   
Medium Laser             LT        1        3       1.0   
4 Jump Jets              LT        4        -       2.0      
A variant seen in limited service within ComStar the 7CS variant was utilized first on Tukayyid. Designed to scout for enemy forces and call in artillery strictly. This variant has no offensive weaponry for its pilot. With an advanced electronics package which combines a Guardian ECM and a Beagle Active Probe its sensor package is top of the line.

Spider SDR-7CS

Code: [Select]
BV: 486
Cost: 3,544,840 C-bills

Movement: 8/12/8
Engine: 240
Heat Sinks: 10
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 53/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      6   
Center Torso               10      8   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7      6   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      6   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      5   
Left Arm                    5      5   
Right Leg                   7      5   
Left Leg                    7      5   

Weapons  Loc  Heat 
--------------------
TAG       CT    0   

Equipment              Loc 
----------------------------
Active Probe (Beagle)   RT 
ECM Suite (Guardian)    LT 
« Last Edit: October 15, 2019, 10:02:27 AM by Bradshaw »
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2019, 10:11:36 PM »
The SDR-9M was designed in response to the lackluster response to the -7M variant by the FWLM.  Many mechwarriors felt that the -7M did not make good use of the newly recovered technologies and was not much of an upgrade to the older -5V model.  In response to these complaints, Nimakachi began development of a new model. 

The design team started by looking at alternative engines for the Spider to free up more mass for other equipment.  Using a smaller engine, which would reduce speed was not an option, so they looked at using an extra light engine to save weight.  Among the options considered were the Hermes 240XL, the Hermes 270XL and the Hermes 300XL.  After much deliberation, the designers chose the Hermes 270XL which was also used by the Phoenix Hawk.  This provided the new Spider with a higher top speed while still leaving significant room for additional weapons and armor. 

The bulky engine forced the designers to replace the advanced ferro-fibrous armor with standard armor.  However, taking advantage of the weight savings from the XL engine, they were able to add 2 additional tons of armor plating, increasing the armor protection by approximately 50%.  Much of this improved armor was concentrated on the torso and legs of the Spider.

The Tronel XII Medium Pulse Lasers found on the -7M were removed and replaced with 3 Magna MkII Medium Lasers.  While the pulse lasers were more accurate then standard lasers, the shorter range was considered a hinderance on a mech with light armor that used it's speed and mobility to stay away from enemy mechs.  The Magna MkIIs are believed to be a temporary installation at this point, it is suspected that they will be replaced with extended range medium lasers once they enter mass production. Rounding out the weapons are a Flame Tech Flamer, which can be used in both the incendiary and anti-infantry roles.  To deal with all of the heat from the weapons and jump jets, the Spider carries double heatsinks in place of the standard models.

The final addition to the -9M is a Guardian ECM.  This helps hide the Spider making it more effective in it's role as a raider and scout. .


SDR-9M
Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Crucis-II Delux Endo Steel
Power Plant: Hermes 270 XL
Cruising Speed 95.3 kph
Maximum Speed: 142 kph
Jump Jets: Rawlings 75
 Jump Distance: 270 M
Armor: Riese-100
Armament:
   3 Magna MkII Medium Lasers
   1 Flame Tech Flamer
Manufacturer:  Nimakachi Fusion Products Ltd (Tematagi)
Communications System: Omicton 4002 Networking Channel W/ Guardian ECM
Targeting & Tracking System: TRSS Eagle Eye

Tonnage 30 tons
Internal Structure    Endo      1.5
Engine: 270XL                      7.5
   Walking MPs: 9
   Running MPs: 14
   Jumping MPs: 9
Heatsinks       10 (20)
Gyro                     3
Cockpit                  3
Armor                  80         5
         IS      Armor
Head         3      6
CT         10         12/2
RT/LT      7      11/2
RA/LA      5      7
RL/LL      7     10

Weapons & Ammo
Guardian ECM      RT   1   1.5
Medium Laser      RT   1   1
Medium Laser       CT   1   1
Medium Laser      LT   1   1
Flamer          LA   1   1
Jump Jets         LT   4   2
Jump Jet         CT   1   0.5
Jump Jets         RT   4   2

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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2019, 01:33:01 AM »
Spider SDR-6V

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3052
Cost: 5,013,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 916

Chassis: Crucis-II Delux Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Hermes 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Rawlings 75
    Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Durallex Light Standard Armor
Armament:
    2 Magna MK III Large Lasers
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products Ltd
    Primary Factory: Tematagi
Communications System: Omicron 402 Networking Channel
Targeting and Tracking System: TRSS Eagle Eye

Overview:
Nimakachi's update of the basic Spider was inspired when a clerical error left the company with a small shipment of Magna Mk III large lasers rather than the Aberdovy Mk III medium lasers that were used on the SDR-5V. The Crucis II Delux endo-steel chassis was already in development and engineers calculated that they could save enough tonnage with further new technologies to upgrade both lasers.

While attempts to refit the chassis to include the lasers, heatsinks and Kallon's new ferrofibrous plating failed, the Hermes 240XL engine developed for Kallon's upgraded Rifleman model required only modest modifications to fit in.

The new Spider has lighter protection than the original and a reduced jump-range but the increased reach of the lasers means that it no longer has to get quite so close to its targets, offsetting these reductions. While this limits its use in defensive operations, the Spider remains an excellent raider - which was its original purpose as designed for SLDF special operations.


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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 3 LT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 7 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   3.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            6         
                                        Center Torso     10           8         
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  2         
                                           L/R Torso     7            6         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     5            4         
                                             L/R Leg     7            4         

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Large Laser                                  RT        8         2         5.00
Large Laser                                  LT        8         2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 13

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 9
8/5j       2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2019, 02:20:46 AM »
Fluff to follow. Here are my Kuritan Spiders (Kumo)

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Spider SDR-6K

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,202,340 C-Bills
Battle Value: 868

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    4  Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  72                  4.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           10       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            9         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     5            6         
                                             L/R Leg     7            8         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Pulse Lasers                        CT        8         2         4.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RT        4         1         2.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           LT        4         1         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 9
8j         3       3       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Spider SDR-10K

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 6,295,640 C-Bills
Battle Value: 780

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 300 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 10
    Running MP: 15
    Jumping MP: 10 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 4 LT, 4 RT                                   5.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  89                  5.00
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           13       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            8         
                                             L/R Leg     7            10       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 8
10j        1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: C3S, ENE, MHQ1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2019, 03:09:52 AM »
Here are some Spider with fluff to follow. I've got more from the FedCom, but I'll have to upload those when I get home from work

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Spider SDR-6L

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,169,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,141

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  ER PPC
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             210                       4.50
    Walking MP: 7
    Running MP: 11
    Jumping MP: 7 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   3.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  80                  5.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           12       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     7            9         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            6         
                                             L/R Leg     7            9         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       RT        15        3         7.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           LT        0         2         1.50
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 11
7j         2       2       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ECM, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



Marik
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Spider SDR-6M

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,539,690 C-Bills
Battle Value: 886

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 270 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 270 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Medium Pulse Laser
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  Flamer
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             270                       7.50
    Walking MP: 9
    Running MP: 14
    Jumping MP: 9 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 4 RT                                   4.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            7         
                                             L/R Leg     7            10       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Pulse Laser                           CT        4         1         2.00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
Flamer                                       RA        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 9
9j         2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Spider SDR-6M2

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,607,940 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,126

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 270 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 270 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    5  Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 3 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             270                       7.50
    Walking MP: 9
    Running MP: 14
    Jumping MP: 9 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 4 RT                                   4.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            7         
                                             L/R Leg     7            10       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Medium Laser                                 CT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 13

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 11
9j         3       3       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



Generic/Mercenary
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Spider SDR-6R

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,554,640 C-Bills
Battle Value: 779

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  Medium Lasers
    2  Small Pulse Lasers
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
    1  Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      51 points                3.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  71                  4.00
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           10       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  2         
                                           L/R Torso     7            9         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     5            6         
                                             L/R Leg     7            8         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beagle Active Probe                          RT        0         2         1.50
Small Pulse Laser                            RT        2         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           LT        0         2         1.50
Small Pulse Laser                            LT        2         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 8
8j         2       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ECM, PRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
« Last Edit: October 12, 2019, 06:47:34 AM by Abele »
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 09:43:49 AM »
Wow, seems like folks have already got their Spiders ready for this one! 6 from Bradshaw, 1 from Irose, 1 from drakensis, and 6 from Abele. Alot of interesting concepts out there.

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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 04:48:24 PM »
The Spider SDR-10L is one of the first signs of the new alliance between the Capellan Confederation and the Free Worlds League. With the announcement of the betrothal of Isis Marik to Sun Tau Liao, the Capellan Confederation began to take advantage of the new alliance by ordering advanced weapons from Free Worlds League manufacturers.  The SDR-10L arose from the CCAF's requirement for a new mech able to spot for the Capellan's Arrow IV equipped Catapult battlemechs. 

Rather then base the design on the SDR-9M, the Cappellans requested that the new mech be based on a discarded prototype, the SDR-10M.  The -10M used a Hermes 300XL engine to increase the speed of the Spider even more then that of the -9M.  This came at the cost of a reduced weapons and armor load, the SDR-10M only carried 2 Medium Lasers and a Guardian ECM system, with 4.5 tons of Riese-100 armor plating. The Capellans requested that the Nimakachi engineers remove the Guardian ECM, freeing up space for a TAG unit.  Unfortunately the TAG module was found be incompatible with the Spider's TRSS Eagle Eye tracking system, so the Engineers replaced it with the Apple Churchill 2000 which is used on the Capellan's Raven Battlemech.  While testing the new design, the Nimakachi team found that they could use the same armor plating as the SDR-9M, providing slightly improved armor protection over the original SDR-10M model.

The SDR-10L has proven popular with the CCAF.  The high speed and large jump capability allow the Spider to quickly range across the battlefield, calling in fire from Capellan Catapults.  The only problem so far with the design is the limited ammunition supply of the Catapult.  With only 5 reloads, the Spider often finds the Catapults that it is spotting for has run out of ammunition shortly after the start of a battle. 

SDR-10L
Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Crucis-II Delux Endo Steel
Power Plant: Hermes 300 XL
Cruising Speed 108.3 kph
Maximum Speed: 157.3 kph
Jump Jets: Rawlings 75
 Jump Distance: 300 M
Armor: Riese-100
Armament:
   2 Magna MkII Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  Nimakachi Fusion Products Ltd (Tematagi)
Communications System: Omicron 4002 Networking Channel
Targeting & Tracking System: Apple Churchill 200 with TAG

Tonnage 30 tons
Internal Structure    Endo      1.5
Engine: 300XL                      9.5
   Walking MPs: 10
   Running MPs: 15
   Jumping MPs: 10
Heatsinks       10 (20)
Gyro                              3
Cockpit                           3
Armor                  80         5
         IS      Armor
Head         3      6
CT         10         12/2
RT/LT      7      11/2
RA/LA      5      7
RL/LL      7     10

Weapons & Ammo
TAG            RT   1   1
Medium Laser      RT   1   1
Medium Laser      LT   1   1
Jump Jets         LT   4   2
Jump Jet         CT   2   1
Jump Jets         RT   4   2

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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2019, 08:39:44 PM »
Another good one Irose!
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2019, 11:59:41 PM »
By 3053, the Draconis Combine had decided to restart production of the venerable Spider BattleMech at the new Nimakachi Fusion Products production line on Lapida II.  However, rather than simply reproduce the SDR-5V Spider, the DCMS chose to build an improved and upgraded model.

Designated as the SDR-6K Spider, this variant would incorporate a 240-rate Extra Light Fusion Engine, Endo-Steel II internal structure, double strength heat sinks, and see armor protection double from 3.0 tons to 6.0 tons of standard armor plating!  The original communications array and targeting/tracking systems were retained, although this decision did prevent Nimakachi from being able to modify the head and cockpit to add an ejection system.

But in the minds of the samurai Warlords and Generals of the DCMS, this lack was nothing of consequence.

Four distinct models were designed and built as prototypes for field testing.  The performance of each was considered outstanding, with the new Kurita Spider showing a capacity for engaging against (and surviving said engagements) with many Clan light-weight OmniMechs!

Only the weapons and electronics package differed between the four prototypes:  engine rate, heat sinks, jump capacity, and armor remained identical on all four designs.

The SDR-6K1 was the first variant to see field combat trials.  This version included a Diplan Inquisitor Beagle Active Probe in the right torso and was armed with a Victory Nickel Alloy Extended-Range Large Laser.  Heat neutral on a jumping Alpha Strike, the -6K1 proved to be a superb fast recon asset.  The reach of the ER Large Laser and the speed and maneuverability of the base chassis gave this Spider the ability (in most circumstances) to dictate the range at which it could engage other units . . . or whether or not to evade them.

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Spider SDR-6K1

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3053
Dry Cost: 5,429,840 C-Bills
Total Cost: 5,429,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 895

Chassis: Newhart 1200 Deluxe Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Pitban 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Pitban LFT-10
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Durallex Light Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Victory Nickel Alloy ER Large Laser
    1 Diplan Inquisitor Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products
    Primary Factory: Lapida II
Communications System: O/P 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: O/P TA 1240

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            8         
                                             L/R Leg     7            14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beagle Active Probe                          RT        0         2         1.50
ER Large Laser                               CT        12        2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 9
8j         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: PRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
The SDR-6K2 was almost identical to the -6K1, but replaced the BAP with a New Samarkand Nimbus Guardian ECM Suite.  Operating in conjunction with the -6K1, the -6K2 variant provides a recon/strike lance with the ECM support required for the modern battlefield.

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Spider SDR-6K2

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3053
Dry Cost: 5,429,840 C-Bills
Total Cost: 5,429,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 967

Chassis: Newhart 1200 Deluxe Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Pitban 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Pitban LFT-10
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Durallex Light Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Victory Nickel Alloy ER Large Laser
    1  New Samarkand Nimbus Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products
    Primary Factory: Lapida II
Communications System: O/P 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: O/P TA 1240

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            8         
                                             L/R Leg     7            14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1.50
ER Large Laser                               CT        12        2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 10
8j         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ECM, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
The SDR-6K3 and SDR-6K4 likewise were equipped with a BAP (-6K3) and GECM (-6K4), respectively.  These variants replaced the Victory Nickel Alloy ER Large Laser with four Aberdovy Mark III Medium Lasers (two in the center torso and one each in the right and left arms), along with a Tanadi Citizen C3 Slave Module (located in the head).  Once again, the two designs were heat-neutral on a jumping alpha strike, but capable of inflicting far greater damage in close-quarters combat than the -6K1 and -6K2.  The C3 Slave Module somewhat alleviated the shorter range of the medium lasers, but engagement range was still limited to a maximum of 270 meters . . . and required a "spotter" to close with the target.  Nonetheless, the design was quite popular with MechWarriors of the DCMS.

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Spider SDR-6K3

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3053
Dry Cost: 5,702,840 C-Bills
Total Cost: 5,702,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 947

Chassis: Newhart 1200 Deluxe Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Pitban 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Pitban LFT-10
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Durallex Light Standard Armor
Armament:
    4 Aberdovy Mk III Medium Lasers
    1 Tanadi Citizen C3 Computer (Slave)
    1 Diplan Inquisitor Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products
    Primary Factory: Lapida II
Communications System: O/P 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: O/P TA 1240

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            8         
                                             L/R Leg     7            14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
Beagle Active Probe                          RT        0         2         1.50
2 Medium Lasers                              CT        6         2         2.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 9
8j         2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: C3S, PRB, RCN, ENE, MHQ1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Spider SDR-6K4

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3053
Dry Cost: 5,702,840 C-Bills
Total Cost: 5,702,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,018

Chassis: Newhart 1200 Deluxe Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Pitban 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Pitban LFT-10
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Durallex Light Standard Armor
Armament:
    4 Aberdovy Mk III Medium Lasers
    1 Tanadi Citizen C3 Computer (Slave)
    1 New Samarkand Nimbus Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Nimakachi Fusion Products
    Primary Factory: Lapida II
Communications System: O/P 500A
Targeting and Tracking System: O/P TA 1240

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            8         
                                             L/R Leg     7            14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1.50
2 Medium Lasers                              CT        6         2         2.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 10
8j         2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: C3S, ECM, ENE, MHQ1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
By 3055, the Coordinator had reviewed reports of the field trials and authorized full scale production of all four prototype variants.  The first new production models entered service with the DCMS in early 3056, often serving in mixed lances with the Combine's latest variants of the Jenner for fast assault and reconnaissance roles.  Only a handful of these units have been exported, but those outside the Combine who have received them prize the new Spiders highly.
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2019, 05:39:08 AM »
Oh, very nice!
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2019, 11:18:51 AM »
Unearthed recently in a ComStar Memory Cache. The Royal Variant Spider used famously by the SLDF Blackhearts was a lost variant when the Rim Worlds Republic forces destroyed the production facility on New Earth in 2776. All known variants of the design that survived the Civil War were believed to be taken with Kerensky's forces where their fate is unknown.

Spider SDR-1Sb

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Weight: 30 tons
BV: 858
Cost: 5,891,665 C-bills

Movement: 9/14/9
Engine: 270 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 64/105
                     Internal  Armor   
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Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10      9   
Center Torso (rear)                2   
Right Torso                 7      7   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      7   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      5   
Left Arm                    5      5   
Right Leg                   7      8   
Left Leg                    7      8   

Weapons              Loc  Heat 
--------------------------------
Medium Laser          LT    3   
Medium Laser          RT    3   
Medium Laser          CT    3   
Anti-Missile System   RT    1   
Small Laser           HD    1   

Ammo                           Loc  Shots 
-------------------------------------------
Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS]   RT     12 

Equipment              Loc 
----------------------------
Active Probe (Beagle)   LT 

Seen in Clan PGC clusters rarely. Believed to be the Royal Variants that have upgraded Clan Tech. The only remaining technology of the original design is its Internal Structure. Replacing the standard Medium Lasers with Clan Extended Range variants. Replacing the original Active Probe systems with the more relevant technology for intra-Clan battles with the newer ECMs system. It drops the original Small Laser and instead donates that tonnage to a new armor protection profile.

Spider SDR-C

Code: [Select]
Weight: 30 tons
BV: 1,611
Cost: 6,176,040 C-bills
Source: TRO 3050 - Clan Invasion

Movement: 9/14/9
Engine: 270 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 96/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     15   
Center Torso (rear)                4   
Right Torso                 7     10   
Right Torso (rear)                 3   
Left Torso                  7     10   
Left Torso (rear)                  3   
Right Arm                   5      9   
Left Arm                    5      9   
Right Leg                   7     12   
Left Leg                    7     12   

Weapons              Loc  Heat 
--------------------------------
ER Medium Laser       RT    5   
ER Medium Laser       LT    5   
ER Medium Laser       CT    5   
Anti-Missile System   RT    1   

Ammo                             Loc  Shots 
---------------------------------------------
Anti-Missile System Ammo [Clan]   RT     24 

Equipment         Loc 
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ECM Suite [Clan]   HD 
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2019, 03:03:18 PM »
Interesting ComGuard Royal take on the spider.

Warning on ur Spider C, no Clan tech. Thanks!!
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Re: Optimizing the Spider
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2019, 10:29:10 AM »
Here are four FedCom-based Spiders

Spider SDR-6FC
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Spider SDR-6FC

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,160,740 C-Bills
Battle Value: 963

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    4  Medium Lasers
    2  Small Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   4.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           14       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            7         
                                             L/R Leg     7            10       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Lasers                              RT        6         2         2.00
2 Medium Lasers                              LT        6         2         2.00
Small Pulse Laser                            RA        2         1         1.00
Small Pulse Laser                            LA        2         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 7

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 10
8j         3       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


Spider SDR-6FC2
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Spider SDR-6FC2

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,003,440 C-Bills
Battle Value: 881

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    2  Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 4 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 6 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         3.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  72                  4.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            8         
                                        Center Torso     10           10       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  4         
                                           L/R Torso     7            8         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            6         
                                             L/R Leg     7            8         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser                            CT        10        2         7.00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 9
8/4j       2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



Spider SDR-6FC3
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Spider SDR-6FC3

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 4,840,940 C-Bills
Battle Value: 627

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/5
    1  Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 4 LA, 5 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 6 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   3.00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  62                  3.50
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            7         
                                        Center Torso     10           10       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            7         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     5            5         
                                             L/R Leg     7            7         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/5                                 RT        1         4         8.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
@AC/5 (20)                                   LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 6
8/4j       1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



Spider SDR-6FC4
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Spider SDR-6FC4

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3054
Cost: 5,020,340 C-Bills
Battle Value: 618

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 240 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Medium Laser
    1  Autocannon/2
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 4 LA, 5 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 8 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT                                         4.00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV -  79                  4.50
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           11       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     7            9         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     5            7         
                                             L/R Leg     7            9         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/2                                 CT        1         1         6.00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1.00
@AC/2 (45)                                   RT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 1

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 6
8j         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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