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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2021, 03:41:20 PM »

Perhaps the Burrocks would hope to discredit the Diamond Sharks and Warrior series by supplying the Dark Caste with these OmniMechs . . . perhaps even with a few tangled threads pointing at their source of supply being the Sharks or another Warden Clan?

Nefarious as always, I love that as a plot point.

The Trials of Merit or Conquest or Crusade whatever you'd what to call them could take place on the Tanite Worlds and this could be a major plot point to it. Figure it rolls like this - the Cloud Cobra Khan suspects some foul play between the Dark Caste and/ or Burrock - and comes to Kerlin with an offer to host these Trials. Part of the concept is to expose any connections between the Clans and the Dark Caste as well as show the Homeworlders just how truly naïve they are when it comes to fighting a real world. The Cobras in particular have always had to deal with low level resistance that most find repugnant. This grand event which will draw the entirety of the Clans could help establish a lasting peace on these worlds. 

The embittered Burrocks are furious and are out to ruin these plans however as they view half of the Tanite Worlds as their own. Their Khan intends to win a place in the invasion while gutting a few Clans along the way.

My mistake on the Coyotes - they are so strict I assumed the worst in my brief summation this morning. They'd love this campaign then completely. Fascinating to see how it works out between them and the Cobras. The Warrior series could help enable a goal (or at least a vision of mine) for them of Total Modularity in their Touman.

The Fire Mandrills could show internal Trials of Merit between individuals and Kindraa just in order to qualify for the Grand Event on Tanis.

The Bears would be curious enough to test the Warrior series but not embrace it and given how they work in canon could eventually fold elite native soldiers into their Touman this way.

True, the Scorpions do lack cash but one thing I see the Sharks wanting to trade for is able warriors in order to bolster their Touman.

Good point for the Horses using these OmniMechs to transport their Battlearmor more efficiently.

Ice Hellion would be wise to incorporate the Warrior series, too bad they have little wisdom at least IMO.

With Nova Cat your always one vision away from going 180 degrees in the other direction.

I wonder how eager the Adders will be to participate in the Grand Trial on Tanis. Perhaps they just continue to train with an eye on bigger things.

I think internal fighting between the Crusader majority and the sizable Warden minority which might be more evenly split at this time could be larger than Tanis. By my calculations they'd be the ninth Crusader Clan if they could be swayed marking a clear majority to invade.

One major canon oversight we could address in this setting would be the size of the Wolf touman especially in comparison to their territory. Arming a second major freeborn force which the Clan did already with the Wolf Dragoons and arming it with the Warrior series could really fix this plot hole.


How do you see the victory conditions for these Trials? How individual wins or goals achieved mark the winning side? Does internal fighting within certain Clans limit participation? While our overall concept is sound I'd like to chart out some specifics
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2021, 05:10:12 PM »

Without an ilkhan I don't see how one khan could trigger something of this magnitude. Crusaders are united somewhat but not to this extent its like a bunch of bullies they'd all want to be the biggest it why you never see them cooperating with each other.

Why would Karlin ward also say prove it to a crusader leaning Diamond Shark made design. Wouldn't he be more against crusaders getting smarter and or stronger at this point
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2021, 05:15:01 PM »

Like the designs though and the somewhat uniformity of the engines.

With the plethora of old star league designs still walking around or in mothball though I'd think they would be used for any training that might be done by clans with these designs then being used to then bolster their losses or replacements
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2021, 05:18:58 PM »

I think you could do it through the Grand Council but electing an ilKhan to oversee the Trials could be possible. However I'd think Crusaders might put off that until winners or the Meritorious has been determined.

Crusader arrogance in dismissing these designs got me going on this train of thought.. Kerlin is trying to unite the Wardens in this case to stop the Crusade. Coming up with an actual system to resolve combat fairly is where I'd like to go next. Complex yes but the Wardens would have a chance to win.

And yes the designs are great.
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2021, 05:26:08 PM »

One question going through designs in more detail, AP Gauss not around in 3020.
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2021, 01:25:35 PM »

One question going through designs in more detail, AP Gauss not around in 3020.

Nope, it ain't.  But it should have been, what with the all the other increases in range/damage of Clan weapon systems.  Instead the MGs and Flamers just got lighter, but otherwise stayed exactly the same.  So, I have the APG being designed and developed several decades earlier . . . at the tail end of the 2990s and deployed in force starting in the 3000s.
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2021, 01:28:30 PM »

Nope, it ain't.  But it should have been, what with the all the other increases in range/damage of Clan weapon systems.  Instead the MGs and Flamers just got lighter, but otherwise stayed exactly the same.  So, I have the APG being designed and developed several decades earlier . . . at the tail end of the 2990s and deployed in force starting in the 3000s.

Agreed I also think the Clans should have had a light and heavy gauss sooner then they did.
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2021, 03:05:44 PM »

I'd have to agree with the AP Gauss and other anti-Elemental counter systems. Unless you think that the fair play of Clan combat kept those weapons from development.
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Re: Project Warrior: Five Clan Diamond Shark Garrison OmniMechs
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2021, 04:08:03 PM »

I'd have to agree with the AP Gauss and other anti-Elemental counter systems. Unless you think that the fair play of Clan combat kept those weapons from development.

Well, it is a great anti-Elemental weapon . . . but it is also probably the best weapon FOR Elementals.  I mean, 9 hex range, 3 points of damage, AND serves as an anti-Infantry weapon?  Yes, please, I'll take AP Gauss for a thousand, Alex.

I mean, from the Elementals point of view, a point of 5 can engage a hostile 'Mech for up to five 3-point hits out to 9 hexes . . . and unlike with their SRM launchers, they got more than two shots to get the job done.  All the while staying out of the range of the most common anti-Elemental weapons:  Small Pulse Lasers, Micro Pulse Lasers, Flamers, A-Pods, and B-Pods.

Really helps even the playing field between Elementals and 'Mechs.

At least in my opinion. 
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