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I agree with that statement. It should be interesting to see what we can come up with.

A little confusing with your fluff to begin with drak (citing the Phantom?) but some excellent designs.

Looking forward to seeing what else our designers can come up with!

Sure, sure... 

Pouncer

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3050
Cost: 7,633,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 573

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    15.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

Additional:


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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    67 points                2.00
    Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             240                       6.00
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 5 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   2.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 115                  6.00
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     12           12       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     10           11       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     6            12       
                                             L/R Leg     10           13       


This variation on the Prime was used by Keiji Perez in his Bloodname Trial following the defeat of the Clans on Tukayyid and is a
deviation from the long-range sniper as it is geared more towards urban or close-quarters fighting. A large laser replaces on of the
ER PPCs while three medium pulse lasers replaces the other. The targeting computer remains to accurize these weapons. For added
anti-infantry weaponry two machineguns have also been added. These do come in handy when dealing Combine rebels and insurgents.
Finally, a six the jump jet has also been mounted for increased ability in enclosed quarters and urban areas. The ECM isused only in
defensive operations  or during ambushes.

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Loadout Name: Keiji                                          Cost: 9,310,700
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 2,061

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 2 RT                                   0.50
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Active Probe                                 RT        0         1         1.00
Targeting Computer                           RT        -         2         2.00
ECM Suite                                    LT        0         1         1.00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        1         4.00
2 Machine Guns                               RA        0         2         0.50
3 Medium Pulse Lasers                        LA        12        3         6.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              RA        -         1         0.50
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 21
6j         4       4       2       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, PRB, RCN, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Jerusha of the Vickers Bloodhouse uses this variation of the A configuration which substitutes the twin LRM15s with three Artemis
IV-equipped LRM10s each fed by a ton of ammunition. While it has the same throw weight as the A, it has more endurance and
increased accuracy. Back up firepower has been reduced to a pair of ER medium lasers

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Loadout Name: Jerusha                                        Cost: 9,244,200
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 1,803

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: LT, LA, RA                                             0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LRM-10                                       LT        4         1         2.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           LT        -         1         1.00
LRM-10                                       RA        4         1         2.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           RA        -         1         1.00
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
LRM-10                                       LA        4         1         2.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           LA        -         1         1.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (12)                       LT        -         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (12)                       RA        -         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (12)                       LA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 7

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 18
6/3j       4       4       3       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 2
Samira of the Arbuthnots has developed this variation of the Prime and B configurations, but has been optimized for closer combat.
It has a large pulse mated to a brace each of ER medium and small lasers. The targeting computer helps Samira increase her accuracy
when engaged in defense of Goliath Scorpion asstes. For additional firepower, Streak SRM-6 gives added punch at close ranges.

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Loadout Name: Samira                                         Cost: 8,763,825
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 2,071

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 3 RT                                   0.50
    CASE Locations: LT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Targeting Computer                           RT        -         2         2.00
Streak SRM-6                                 LT        4         2         3.00
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
2 ER Small Lasers                            LA        4         2         1.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 21
6j         5       5       1       0      2     1   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Watende is a freeborn Warrior fighting with forces of the Clan Cloud Cobra touman and uses this Pouncer and is a minor variation of
the Prime which removes the targeting computer and replaces it with a medium pulse laser. One of the ERPPCs has been replaced with
a large pulse laser.

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Loadout Name: Watende                                        Cost: 8,609,038
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 2,092

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             13(26)                    1.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Small Laser                               RT        2         1         0.50
Medium Pulse Laser                           LT        4         1         2.00
ER PPC                                       RA        15        2         6.00
Large Pulse Laser                            LA        10        2         6.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 21
6/3j       4       4       3       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Goran Banacek is a proud warrior of the Star Adder and revels in close quarter combat and his variation on the D swaps the pair of
Streak SRM6s with a trio of Streak SRM4s. This extends the ammo supply on the battlefield while maintaining the same throw weight.
A pair each of ER medium and medium pulse lasers add their power to the missile barrage. The targeting computer has been removed.

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Loadout Name: Goran                                          Cost: 8,896,388
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 1,935

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: LT, LA, RA                                             0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Pulse Lasers                        RT        8         2         4.00
Streak SRM-4                                 LT        3         1         2.00
(R) ER Small Laser                           LT        2         1         0.50
Streak SRM-4                                 RA        3         1         2.00
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
Streak SRM-4                                 LA        3         1         2.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           LT        -         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           RA        -         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           LA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 7

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 19
6/3j       5       5       0       0      2     1   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
Mariska of the Conners Bloodhouse believes in hitting the enemy hard and fast and that is why she replace Ultra 10 of the C configuration
of the Pouncer with a Gauss Rifle. It is fed by a two-ton ammo bay (a lesson learned from the Tukayyid battleroms) and backed by ER
medium and ER small lasers.

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Loadout Name: Mariska                                        Cost: 8,414,788
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E-A                       BV2: 1,592

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                                  RA        1         6        12.00
ER Small Laser                               LA        2         1         0.50
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
@Gauss Rifle (16)                            RT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 10

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 16
6/3j       3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Ok folks that is it. I will start reviewing the submissions tomorrow morning. Thanks for participating!

Sorry you missed out on this one marauder648 - hopefully we will have everyone back next week for our last 40 tonner. Been busy myself and hoping to get a BattleTech event in this weekend so let’s get to it. First off, I am really glad we got a chance to review the Pouncer as the whole challenge really opened my eyes. An underappreciated design that really never spread beyond the Invasion era Wolves in the canon timeline it never got its due so to speak. One of the consequences of the Quicksilver Trials is the proliferation of this and other underutilized Clan OmniMechs.

Fluff point for the Quicksilver Pouncer entry goes to Abele for his notable warrior(s) approach which I am surprised wasn’t used to such an extent before. Not sure I buy the DCMS capturing this relatively new design so quickly and pressing it into service against the Jaguars drak but I did like the Wolf-Jaguar rivalry which covered the rest of your entry. Point to Abele!

I was a little disappointed that you guys left points on the forum here. No one even took a shot at coming up with an InnerSphere designation and including a little blurb about that in their overview. No point to anyone, sad!

Primary Configuration – This one was hard to pick a winner as every Prime entry was a quality one. Canon Prime with its twin ER PPCs linked to a Targeting Computer along with an ER Small is pretty darn solid. Despite heat concerns it reminds me a lot of the Adder which preceded it as well. Drak Prime uses an ER Large and Large Pulse to optimize its Targeting Computer while adding a LRM-10. It seemed to mingle the best parts of the original Prime and B configurations, very nice. Then Abele has a good recon sniper featuring an ER Large and three Medium Pulses tied to a Targeting Computer with two Machine Guns, an additional Jump Jet for maximum mobility along with an ECM Suite and an Active Probe. Very impressive. While canon wins out here keeping its position expect to see the other contenders again. Nice job all! Point to canon!

Alternate Configuration A – In a contest between three massive LRM carriers there can be only one winner. Canon sets the standard with twin LRM-15s supported by four ER Mediums and an ER Small. I really like what Abele did with three LRM-10s linked to Artemis IV FCS for accurate barrages supported by two ER Mediums. However, it was drakensis A with three LRM-15s which wins the day with the biggest barrage even if it is only supported by two ER Smalls. The potential of 45 missiles raining down is just too good to pass up Abele, sorry even though you finished ahead of canon here. Point to drakensis!

Alternate Configuration B – I liked the long range canon version had two ER Larges with an LRM-10 supported by two SRM-4s but the newbies bought some pretty stiff competition. Abele creates a highly accurate configuration around a Large Pulse, two ER Mediums, and two ER Smalls tied to a Targeting Computer with a Streak SRM-6 along with an additional jump jet for maximum mobility. A nice mid-range hitter that doesn’t go over heat too much. Unfortunately for them both drakensis went nuts with quite possibly the most Jaguar configuration ever before or since created. Three Streak SRM-6s with 5 loads of ammo work with eleven ER Smalls for an insane amount of short range damage potentially. I could really see the Jags learning to love this bad boy jumping opponents an unleashing a 91 point Alpha Strike, holy macaroni! You may see the other contenders later but point two to drakensis!!

Alternate Configuration C – Going Ultra AC/10 originally with twin ER Mediums backed up by three ER Smalls isn’t exactly the greatest but it is a different approach that has its own niche. Drak brings his own version of this configuration based around an LB 10-X AC for urban combat which is very Jaguar again. I didn’t care for Abele’s second bite at the original Prime apple here however – maybe I would have gone for two Large Pulse instead and gone from there but that is just me. Gonna go with canon here for the win but expect to see drak’s urban combatant later. Point two for canon!!

Alternate Configuration D – While canon D is deadly with seven ER Mediums and two SRM-6s with a ER Small the heat factor is just too prohibitive IMO. 45 weapon before you even calculate movement is just ridiculous and the Pouncer is a jumper, plus 5 more. If you can’t use weapons they aren’t weapons all. Abele D is interesting with 3 Streak SRM-4s he was on to something matching the canon version but after that you just lost me. Too much ammo, perhaps going twin ER Large would have got ya something bud but I didn’t like it. That left drakensis D which smartly used a single LRM-15 with an Artemis to provide effective long fire matched with 5 ER Mediums linked to a Targeting Computer. This combo is cooled by 3 additional Double Heat Sinks which doesn’t completely resolve heat issues but comes close. Point three for drakensis!!!

Alternate Configuration E – Originally, I was going to tell Abele that there was not enough critical space for a Gauss Rifle on this OmniMech. However, upon review there is six spots available in each arm not five as the TRO indicates. I guess it fails to account for no hand actuators on the Pouncer. Drawing off of C for inspiration this one could be a nice headcapping possibility who along with its supporting arsenal (ER Medium and ER Small) is cool running. You could jump and Alpha Strike all day long which additionally spits in the eye of the Jags who in drak’s fluff critique the Wolves overheated configurations. Nice job Abele, point to you!

Alternate Configuration F – Going back to Abele’s Prime we have a great long-range recon sniper whose superior electronics package and additional jump jet grant it a place among the winners here. The firepower of ER Large and three Medium Pulses linked to Targeting Computer for increased accuracy ain’t too shabby. Point two for you Abele!!

Alternate Configuration G – Going back to drakensis Gamma or C entry whose LB 10-X AC, two Small Pulses, a Flamer, and a Beagle Active Probe make it ideal for urban combat. It joins canon C which inspired it as one of the ten Pouncer Quicksilver configurations as another one I can easily see the Jaguars using against any would be rebels in the Occupation Zone. Point four for drakensis!!!!

Alternate Configuration H – Returning to drakensis Prime who took the canon version and optimized it with an ER Large and a Large Pulse linked to a two ton Targeting Computer plus a LRM-10. This mix of weaponry keeps the long range firepower of the original but at a more efficient heat level which is quite helpful. Point five for drakensis!!!!!

Alternate Configuration I – Finally Abele’s B with its single SRM-6, Large Pulse, 2 ER Mediums, 2 ER Smalls, Targeting Computer and additional jump jet narrowly edges out the competition for the tenth and final spot here. I like the maximized mobility and the inherent accuracy of this variant opposed to the others. Point three for Abele!!!

So once again with five points drakensis wins although it was pretty close with Abele narrowly missing out amassing four points (3 for designs and 1 for fluff) here. Thanks again everyone for participating and remember to look for the InnerSphere name designation if there is one next time. Could get you an easy point. See ya tomorrow for the next contest!

I wonder what's next. I'm hard pressed to recall which of the original Omnis were not eliminated by the Quicksilver Trials.