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Title: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 19, 2013, 02:22:35 AM
BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (Base)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament: 6.5 tons of pod space available

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (Base)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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TOTALS: 0 50 23.50
Crits & Tons Left: 28 6.50

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 6,862,050 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 592 (old BV = 416)
Cost per BV2: 11,591.3
Weapon Value: 0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 1; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
 Class: ML; Point Value: 6
 Specials: omni


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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (Primary)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:
4 ER Medium Lasers
 1 Light TAG
 1 Light Active Probe
 1 ECM Suite
 1 Flamer

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (Primary)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00
1 Light TAG RT 0 1 .50
1 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00
1 Light Active Probe LT 0 1 .50
1 ECM Suite CT 0 1 1.00
1 Flamer HD 3 1 .50
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TOTALS: 23 58 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 20 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 8,027,987 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2,019 (old BV = 1,444)
Cost per BV2: 3,976.22
Weapon Value: 1,119 / 1,119 (Ratio = .55 / .55)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 15; LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/-, Overheat: 1
 Class: ML; Point Value: 20
 Specials: omni, ecm, tag, prb

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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (A)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:
1 ER PPC
 1 Micro Pulse Laser

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (A)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
1 Micro Pulse Laser LA 1 1 .50
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TOTALS: 16 51 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 27 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 7,363,525 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,864 (old BV = 1,451)
Cost per BV2: 3,950.39
Weapon Value: 757 / 757 (Ratio = .41 / .41)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 6
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
 Class: ML; Point Value: 19
 Specials: omni

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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (B)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:
1 ER Large Laser
 1 Heavy Medium Laser
 1 Anti-Missile System

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (B)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00
1 Heavy Medium Laser LA 7 2 1.00
1 Anti-Missile System LT 1 24 2 1.50
 (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
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TOTALS: 20 55 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 23 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 7,596,550 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,693 (old BV = 1,277)
Cost per BV2: 4,487.03
Weapon Value: 780 / 780 (Ratio = .46 / .46)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 16; MRDmg = 8; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1, Overheat: 0
 Class: ML; Point Value: 17
 Specials: omni

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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (C)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: 7 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:
6 ER Small Lasers

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (C)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 7
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 ER Small Laser LA 2 1 .50
2 ER Small Lasers RT 4 2 1.00
2 ER Small Lasers LT 4 2 1.00
7 Standard Jump Jets: 7 3.50
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS: 12 63 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 15 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 7,449,487 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,278 (old BV = 1,056)
Cost per BV2: 5,829.02
Weapon Value: 564 / 564 (Ratio = .44 / .44)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 18; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0
 Class: ML; Point Value: 13
 Specials: omni

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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Shrike (D)
Tech: Clan / 3075
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:
3 Medium Pulse Lasers
 1 Heavy Small Laser

Manufacturer: (Unknown)
 Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Shrike (D)
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Endo Steel 7 1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 10 9.50
 Walking MP: 10
 Running MP: 15 [20]
 Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 1 1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 105 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

 Internal Armor
 Structure Value
 Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 10 14
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 7 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 5 10/10
L/R Leg: 7 14/14

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Medium Pulse Laser RA 4 1 2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser CT 4 1 2.00
1 Heavy Small Laser HD 3 1 .50
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TOTALS: 15 54 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 24 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 7,187,050 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,636 (old BV = 1,265)
Cost per BV2: 4,393.06
Weapon Value: 890 / 890 (Ratio = .54 / .54)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 22; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 10, Armor/Structure: 3/2
 Damage PB/M/L: 4/2/-, Overheat: 0
 Class: ML; Point Value: 16
 Specials: omni
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: JPArbiter on September 19, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
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at least the prime attempts to also be a recon/EW platform.  but I do not see any battle armor killers, Missile users, or anything else that would really justify this as an omnimech.  Plus have you seen the Canon Shrike, 95 tons of winged mean!

Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: David CGB on September 19, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
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at least the prime attempts to also be a recon/EW platform.  but I do not see any battle armor killers, Missile users, or anything else that would really justify this as an omnimech.  Plus have you seen the Canon Shrike, 95 tons of winged mean!
might want to call it something else, but other then that I like recon platforms with mostly lasers for the fact they can range farther then ones that are ammo critical. I would use these to build a trinary in my cluster if I could.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 19, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
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at least the prime attempts to also be a recon/EW platform.  but I do not see any battle armor killers, Missile users, or anything else that would really justify this as an omnimech.  Plus have you seen the Canon Shrike, 95 tons of winged mean!

  Personally,  I don't see anything wrong with an OmniMech which concentrates on energy weapons (ymmv).  You might have noticed that each configuration uses different energy weapons. I'm not sure what battle armor you play with but energy weapons work just fine on canon Battle armor.  Besides, the design only has 6.5 tons of pod space and there is value in being logistically independent. Although I came up with design before the canon one, you can call mine Shrike II or whatever if you want :)
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: Knightmare on September 19, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
While Streaks are ammo dependent, they're pretty good on ammo conservation.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 19, 2013, 08:00:43 PM
While Streaks are ammo dependent, they're pretty good on ammo conservation.

  I'll run that idea through a few different times and see what comes up. The main limitation will be the extremely limited pod space of 6.5 tons. If I use a Streak-6 with 1 ton of ammo,  for example, I'll only have 2.5 tons left. There are a number of ammo weapons I could use but the trick is to also come up with an effective design.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: JPArbiter on September 19, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
my point is why make it an omnimech if it can only do one thing.  the nature of an Omnimech is that it can perform multiple tasks.  a light fire support mech one sortire gets turned into a cavalry charger the next, and a forward scout and EW support machine afterwards.

the Primary configuration takes care of it's needs well enough, everything else is cute but does not bring enough to the table to grab my attention.  the Cephalus and Wulfen show how to do a machine of this size and speed right.  you may want to look into these examples.

Regarding Battle armor killers.  I know my battle armor, and you want Missiles and Machine guns or AP Gauss to take them down.  in the modern context you can expect to see reflective armor, making them twice as hard to kill for this mech.

the your shrike is almost ten years old?  we got our first glimpse of the shrike around 2004 when Mechwarrior: Falcons Prey expansion hit the shelves.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: Knightmare on September 19, 2013, 09:00:29 PM
After looking it over again, I think the Primary and B are keepers. Consider specializing some of the others, like maybe a fully dedicated BA killer with AP Gauss, etc.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: JPArbiter on September 19, 2013, 09:58:50 PM
After looking it over again, I think the Primary and B are keepers. Consider specializing some of the others, like maybe a fully dedicated BA killer with AP Gauss, etc.

I could agree with this.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 20, 2013, 12:36:25 AM
my point is why make it an omnimech if it can only do one thing.  the nature of an Omnimech is that it can perform multiple tasks.  a light fire support mech one sortire gets turned into a cavalry charger the next, and a forward scout and EW support machine afterwards.

the Primary configuration takes care of it's needs well enough, everything else is cute but does not bring enough to the table to grab my attention.  the Cephalus and Wulfen show how to do a machine of this size and speed right.  you may want to look into these examples.

Regarding Battle armor killers.  I know my battle armor, and you want Missiles and Machine guns or AP Gauss to take them down.  in the modern context you can expect to see reflective armor, making them twice as hard to kill for this mech.

  You bring up some good points. I have revised some of the Shrike configurations and will post them. Please let me know what you think.
Title: Shrike II (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 20, 2013, 12:55:13 AM
     BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Shrike II (Base)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:  6.5 tons of pod space available

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (Base)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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TOTALS:                          0          50     23.50
Crits & Tons Left:                          28      6.50

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        6,862,050 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    592 (old BV = 416)
Cost per BV2:      11,591.3
Weapon Value:      0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 1;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 6
                   Specials: omni

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  BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Shrike II (Primary)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:     
  4 ER Medium Lasers
  1 Light TAG
  1 Light Active Probe
  1 ECM Suite
  1 Flamer

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (Primary)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser        RA      5           1      1.00
1 ER Medium Laser        LA      5           1      1.00
1 ER Medium Laser        RT      5           1      1.00
1 Light TAG              RT      0           1       .50
1 ER Medium Laser        LT      5           1      1.00
1 Light Active Probe     LT      0           1       .50
1 ECM Suite              CT      0           1      1.00
1 Flamer                 HD      3           1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         23          58     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          20       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        8,027,987 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    2,019 (old BV = 1,444)
Cost per BV2:      3,976.22
Weapon Value:      1,119 / 1,119 (Ratio = .55 / .55)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 24;  MRDmg = 15;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 20
                   Specials: omni, ecm, tag, prb

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 BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Shrike II (A)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 3, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
 
Armament:     
  2 ER Flamers*
  4 AP Gausss*
  1 Anti-Personnel Pod

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (A)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Flamer*             RA      4           1      1.00
1 ER Flamer*             LA      4           1      1.00
2 AP Gausss*             RT      2   80      4      3.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT)
2 AP Gausss*             LT      2           2      1.00
1 Anti-Personnel Pod     CT      0           1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         12          59     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          19       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,150,487 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    942 (old BV = 701)
Cost per BV2:      7,590.75
Weapon Value:      441 / 441 (Ratio = .47 / .47)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 12;  MRDmg = 1;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 9
                   Specials: omni

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  BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Shrike II (B)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:     
  1 ER Large Laser
  1 Heavy Medium Laser
  1 Anti-Missile System

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (B)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Large Laser         RA     12           1      4.00
1 Heavy Medium Laser     LA      7           2      1.00
1 Anti-Missile System    LT      1   24      2      1.50
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         20          55     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          23       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,596,550 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,693 (old BV = 1,277)
Cost per BV2:      4,487.03
Weapon Value:      780 / 780 (Ratio = .46 / .46)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 16;  MRDmg = 8;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 17
                   Specials: omni

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BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Shrike II (C)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     7 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
 
Armament:     
  6 ER Small Lasers

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (C)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   7
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Small Laser         RA      2           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         LA      2           1       .50
2 ER Small Lasers        RT      4           2      1.00
2 ER Small Lasers        LT      4           2      1.00
7 Standard Jump Jets:                        7      3.50
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         12          63     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          15       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,449,487 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,278 (old BV = 1,056)
Cost per BV2:      5,829.02
Weapon Value:      564 / 564 (Ratio = .44 / .44)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 18;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 13
                   Specials: omni

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BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Shrike II (D)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 3, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:     
  1 Plasma Cannon*
  1 SRM 6

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Shrike II (D)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Plasma Cannon*         RA      7   10      2      4.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RA)
1 SRM 6                  LA      4   15      2      2.50
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LA)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         11          54     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          24       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,656,675 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,363 (old BV = 1,043)
Cost per BV2:      5,617.52
Weapon Value:      198 / 198 (Ratio = .15 / .15)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 6;  MRDmg = 1;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 14
                   Specials: omni

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 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Shrike II (E)
Tech:          Clan / 3075
Config:        Biped OmniMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 [216.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous

Armament:     
  2 Micro Pulse Lasers
  1 LRM 15

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Shrike II (E)
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel             7      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                10      9.50
   Walking MP:  10
   Running MP:  15 [20]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
MASC:                                        1      1.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7      5.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             10         14     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6     
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4     
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Micro Pulse Laser      RA      1           1       .50
1 Micro Pulse Laser      LA      1           1       .50
1 LRM 15                 LT      5   16      4      5.50
  (Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          7          56     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          22       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,365,800 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,282 (old BV = 978)
Cost per BV2:      5,745.55
Weapon Value:      444 / 444 (Ratio = .35 / .35)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 11;  MRDmg = 7;  LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2:      MP: 10,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 13
                   Specials: omni, if

Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: Knightmare on September 20, 2013, 06:45:13 AM
For some reason, I kinda like the Config E with the LRM 15. The odd config out of the bunch is actually D with the Plasma Cannon and SRM. I'm not sure I see the utility of that setup for a Clan OmniMech. Now, if this was being sold by the Sea Foxes to the Inner Sphere...well then the Plasma makes sense if the SRMs were loaded with Inferno rounds. Much more diverse in my opinion. Nice work.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: JPArbiter on September 20, 2013, 12:26:54 PM
D could actually be used to hunt vehicles (3D6 damage against units that do not track heat? YES PLEASE!) and Battle armor, and the utility of a Plasma Weapon as both a bunker buster and firestarter is fantastic.

the revised configurations show what happens when you think of a battlemech as more then a sledgehammer you use to take down other battlemechs, something particularly important as your play experience evolves.
Title: Re: Shrike (OmniMech)
Post by: ATN082268 on September 24, 2013, 12:42:50 AM
For some reason, I kinda like the Config E with the LRM 15. The odd config out of the bunch is actually D with the Plasma Cannon and SRM. I'm not sure I see the utility of that setup for a Clan OmniMech. Now, if this was being sold by the Sea Foxes to the Inner Sphere...well then the Plasma makes sense if the SRMs were loaded with Inferno rounds. Much more diverse in my opinion. Nice work.


  I like the revised configurations much better. Thanks for the input.