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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2021, 01:10:11 PM »
Thanks guys.

Being able to survive (somewhat) or be a little protected on the WMD battlefield of the 1st Succession War would be a big positive.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2021, 01:20:24 PM »
For heat damage I would use this rule

DAMAGE TO MECHWARRIORS
If life-support systems take a critical hit, the MechWarrior suffers
1 point of damage for every turn that the ’Mech’s internal heat
reaches 15 or more. For every turn that the heat rises to or remains
higher than 25, the MechWarrior suff ers 2 points of damage.

Total War pg 160

Oh just realized Mechs can't have Bays they can only have compartments which makes sense.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2021, 01:31:22 PM »
So this is definitely not allowed in canon.

Though impractical mount on BattleMechs or ProtoMechs, bulk
cargo bays are a common sight on nearly any other type of long-haul
mobile unit, including Combat Vehicles, Support Vehicles, DropShips
and other capital spacecraft. Even some models of IndustrialMechs
and the occasional aerospace and conventional fi ghter have been
known to devote space and tonnage to internalized cargo bays

Also Tech Manual.

The Mech it was showing on the chart was for IndustrialMechs which is odd that they can but a regular Mech can't
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2021, 03:46:04 PM »
So this is technically legal

Onslaught Mk II

Introduction Year: 2788
Cost: 6,326,250 C-bills
Battle Value: 1,743

Code: [Select]

Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Industrial Industrial Quad
Power Plant: 300 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Jump Jets: None
     Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Heavy Industrial
Armament:
     1 LB 10-X AC
     2 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure            Industrial             20
Engine                        300 Fusion             19
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Double Heat Sink              12 [24]                 2
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Heavy Industrial)305                    20

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            31        46   
     Center Torso (rear)               15     
     R/L Torso               21        32   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  10   
     FR/L Leg                21        41   
     RR/L Leg                21        42   

Weapons               Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
2 ER Large Lasers         LT        4        12      10.0 
LB 10-X AC                RT        6        2       11.0 
LB 10-X AC Ammo (20)      RT        2        -       2.0   
Active Probe              CT        2        -       1.5   
CASE                      RT        1        -       0.5   
Cargo                    FRL        2        -       2.0   
Cargo                    RLL        2        -       2.0   
Cargo                    FLL        2        -       2.0   
Cargo                    RRL        2        -       2.0       
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2021, 03:56:09 PM »
Though I just learned about BAR and armor for Mechs and Industrial Mechs. Standard Mech armor has a BAR of 10 meaning any damage to it just is removed until eventually criticals are reached. Commercial Armor has BAR 5 which means anything that does more than 5 pts of damage to it gets a critical chance. Industrial and Heavy Industrial are needed for the BAR 10 rating
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2021, 06:59:05 PM »
Quote from: Bradshaw on September 10, 2021, 01:31:22 PM
So this is definitely not allowed in canon.

Though impractical mount on BattleMechs or ProtoMechs, bulk
cargo bays are a common sight on nearly any other type of long-haul
mobile unit, including Combat Vehicles, Support Vehicles, DropShips
and other capital spacecraft. Even some models of IndustrialMechs
and the occasional aerospace and conventional fi ghter have been
known to devote space and tonnage to internalized cargo bays

Also Tech Manual.

The Mech it was showing on the chart was for IndustrialMechs which is odd that they can but a regular Mech can't

Does it actually it is illegal or just impractical- meaning you can do it but it's not easy?  Maybe this is one reason for using quads- maybe it is easier on a quad chassis?
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2021, 07:49:10 PM »
From what the rules i reread and what i was told not allowed on canon or tournament legal designs so house rules only.

I just dont get why industrial mechs can and battlemechs cant i got into a heated debate with some diehards and eventually just gave up
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2021, 07:42:36 AM »
The differences in interior heat buildup already is a major difference between Vehicles and Mechs - just look at Heat Sinks. Perhaps this is why Mech infantry carriers were never attempted but still it might make sense given the BattleMech's more substantial resistance to WMD. The horrific environments of the 1st Succession War could thus justify these R&D attempts. Of course the line from Batman Begins comes in to play here. How much is an infantryman's life worth? Damn bean counters.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2021, 08:27:51 AM »
They raised feasibility and the wear and tear a passenger would take due to movements.

I said look at the Charger its been around 100 years sucking. And I said look at something like C-130 Hercules transport infantry get thrown into them and hit turbulence you put in netting and should be fine.

Many on facebook liked the idea especially as they thought of AT-AT in which I said inspired the design. I think it would better on quads due to stability but I can agree somewhat bipedal would be a rougher ride.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2021, 05:17:12 PM »
Cool quad infantry carrier and artwork
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2021, 10:08:11 PM »
I think it is an awesome concept myself but it needs work.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2021, 12:26:20 PM »
Yeah I reckon the first particle cannon that hits that Mech would result in an electrocuted infantry trooper (the one on top)
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2021, 12:46:12 PM »
found the image when thinking of concepts for a design, probably not feasible in BTU.
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2021, 02:38:24 PM »
Quote from: Dragon Cat on September 14, 2021, 12:26:20 PM
Yeah I reckon the first particle cannon that hits that Mech would result in an electrocuted infantry trooper (the one on top)

Your touching on another weapon concept there. ;)
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Re: Terran Regency: Quad Mech Infantry Carriers
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2021, 02:39:17 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on September 14, 2021, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: Dragon Cat on September 14, 2021, 12:26:20 PM
Yeah I reckon the first particle cannon that hits that Mech would result in an electrocuted infantry trooper (the one on top)

Your touching on another weapon concept there. ;)

This?

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleMech_Taser
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