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MAD-4A

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The Rainman
« on: February 23, 2017, 01:46:55 PM »
My answer to mass-AMS designs:

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Atlas AS8-R (Rainman)
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Modified design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Foundation Type 10X Standard
Power Plant:   300 Hermes Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Special Heavy with CASE Standard
Armament:     
  14 Holly-5 LRM 5s
  2 Victory Heartbeat Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer:  Yori 'Mech Works, Independence Weaponry
  Location:    Na'ir (Yori), Quentin (Independence)
Communications System:  Sipher Security Plus
Targeting & Tracking System:  Matabushi Sentinel

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Type/Model:    Atlas AS8-R (Rainman)
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     15 Double [30]               9      5.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LT, 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  288 pts Standard              0     18.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             31         41     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10     
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10     
   L/R Arm:                  17      32/32     
   L/R Leg:                  21      40/40     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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7 LRM 5s                 RA     14  216     16     23.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA, 3 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
7 LRM 5s                 LA     14           7     14.00
2 Medium Pulse Lasers    CT      8           2      4.00
CASE Equipment:          LT     RT           2      1.00
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TOTALS:                         36          67    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          11       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        9,772,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,639
Cost per BV:       5,962.17
Weapon Value:      2,706 / 2,706 (Ratio = 1.65 / 1.65)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 19;  MRDmg = 32;  LRDmg = 18
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 7/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/5/4,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 16
                   Specials: if

This is a combination between the Atlas and Longbow with 70 Missile tubes (that's as much as a Catapult and Archer combined!) The LRM-5 is the most efficient launcher available in terms of tubes/ton (not counting add-ons like ArtIV). It is less efficient in terms of heat, but only slightly and easily compensated for by the built-in HS in the EN (especially when DHS are used.) It is also the Achilles-heal of the AMS. Even with 2 systems you can only hope to swat down a small # of missiles and the rest rain-down on your head!
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Re: The Rainman
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 02:10:06 PM »
Here is my original design, I originally wanted to create a mech with the most LRMs that could be consistently operated, that I could.

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Atlas C (Rainman)
Tech:          Clan / 3055
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Modified design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   300 Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  20 LRM 5s
  2 Medium Pulse Lasers
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Type/Model:    Atlas C (Rainman)
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     21 Double [42]              18     11.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 4 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.:                         5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  304 pts Standard              0     19.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             31         46     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 13     
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10     
   L/R Arm:                  17      34/34     
   L/R Leg:                  21      42/42     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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10 LRM 5s                RA     20  240     20     20.00
  (Ammo Locations: 4 LT, 6 RT)
10 LRM 5s                LA     20          10     10.00
2 Medium Pulse Lasers    CT      8           2      4.00
1 Targeting Computer     HD                  1      1.00
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TOTALS:                         48          78    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        10,252,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      2,397
Cost per BV:       4,277.01
Weapon Value:      6,115 / 6,115 (Ratio = 2.55 / 2.55)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 64;  MRDmg = 49;  LRDmg = 26
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 8/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 9/7/5,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 24
                   Specials: if

YES, that's 100 tubes! - be afraid ... be very afraid.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2017, 08:59:01 AM by MAD-4A »
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Re: The Rainman
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 02:12:51 PM »
And here is my newest LvL1 version - with only 60tubes, so = to a LvL-2 Salamander with 20s! (just slower, cheaper and with a $#!& load more armor - or 2 Catapults  :o.)

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-R (Rainman)
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Modified design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Foundation Type 10X Standard
Power Plant:   300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Heavy Special Standard
Armament:     
  12 Holly-5 LRM 5s
  2 Hellion-V Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  Yori 'Mech Works, Defiance Industries, Independence Weaponry
  Location:    Al'Nair, Hesperus II, Quentin
Communications System:  Army Comm. Class 5
Targeting & Tracking System:  Army Corporation Type 29K

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Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-R (Rainman)
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     26 Single                   14     16.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 5 LT, 5 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  272 pts Standard              0     17.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             31         41     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10     
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10     
   L/R Arm:                  17      32/32     
   L/R Leg:                  21      32/32     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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6 LRM 5s                 RA     12  144     12     18.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
6 LRM 5s                 LA     12           6     12.00
2 Medium Lasers          CT      6           2      2.00
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TOTALS:                         30          65    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          13       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        9,056,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,472
Cost per BV:       6,152.17
Weapon Value:      2,334 / 2,334 (Ratio = 1.59 / 1.59)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 16;  MRDmg = 27;  LRDmg = 16
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 7/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/4/3,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 15
                   Specials: if
« Last Edit: February 23, 2017, 02:20:48 PM by MAD-4A »
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Re: The Rainman
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 08:04:54 PM »
In addition to the anti-AMS action this design could get, spreading the LRMs out into multiple smaller launchers also allows you to cover more targets, with can make this very effective at battlefield control with things like smoke or thunder missiles.
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Re: The Rainman
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 03:04:09 AM »
It's raining missiles :P
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Re: The Rainman
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 08:58:14 AM »
Quote from: Cryhavok101 on February 23, 2017, 08:04:54 PM
In addition to the anti-AMS action this design could get, spreading the LRMs out into multiple smaller launchers also allows you to cover more targets, with can make this very effective at battlefield control with things like smoke or thunder missiles.
Which I've done before (only problem is you cant use Thunder-Aug) but when conducting IDF you get a lot more rolls to connect with something, Swarms are great with these, and you can load 1tn of MPWs and throw 1-2 per salvo to keep screwing with their TH#. Actually, I used one once (before the rules were change) and killed an opponents Assault mech with 1 salvo and did NO damage at all - 52 MPW for +52heat on the turn he fired all his MPLs at someone else - heat++ BOOM!

These are really good when used in conjunction with NARC or TAG units.
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