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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #90 on: April 09, 2010, 07:00:32 PM »

As I said over at classic; nicely done.  Welcome to the war. ;D
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #91 on: April 09, 2010, 07:40:39 PM »

Thanks, BTA! I sent you a PM over at CBT. I hope to continue with this. 8)
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #92 on: April 09, 2010, 09:28:36 PM »

Only thing I have to say is it is probably too early for the 4th Crucis Lancers. I'll try to consult with Irose.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2010, 07:49:15 AM »

I exchanged a brief message with BTA and I feel the same. We're both going to do some research into this. Any info you can give either one of us as to the future in SD timeline would help.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #94 on: April 10, 2010, 08:22:29 AM »

Well looking at what we have for so far for the Crucis Lancers (Threat Assessments 2785 which is set in August of that year) only two units are combat worthy according to the report. It also goes on about future formations of this unit so perhaps a 4th could be developing currently. A special note about their inactive status as well as other hints on future development might be in order as each Lancer drew forces from a particular regional command.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #95 on: April 10, 2010, 10:58:39 AM »

If the AFFS reports like the US Army, if the Regiment as a whole isn't combat ready, then theres no mention of subordinate units being ready...

so BTA & 'Rat may have a battalion ready but the Regiment is still downchecked as being "forming" or "in-training".

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« Reply #96 on: April 10, 2010, 10:02:44 PM »

Okay guys I talked to Irose and there is a small reference to new Lancer commands forming up. The Fourth would eventually be the Point Barrow Lancers but January 2785 they would be an embryo at best. Perhaps SLDF veterans who will serve as the nucleus of the 4th is coming together but little else. Eventually the Lancers will draw on the regional commands of the March to become operational as quickly as possible. That would be the Point Barrow Bulldogs. The rest of the Lancers save the original two should come into existence between 2786 and 2790. So it should probably be another year or two until they become active. ;)

Keep up the good work guys! Sorry to muddle this up with details. :P
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #97 on: April 10, 2010, 11:02:26 PM »

Details are important. ;)

Based on this info, I'm not sure if the 4th Crucis would be appropriate. Are there any Crucis Lancer closer to Chesterton than the 3rd Crucis based on Archernar? According to Sarna.net, the 3rd Crucis were used to stop a Liao attack on Chesterton in 2812. 3rd Crucis Lancers
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #98 on: April 10, 2010, 11:14:11 PM »

Maybe an Avalon Hussars or Ceti Hussars Regiment?
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« Reply #99 on: April 10, 2010, 11:24:56 PM »

Well you could certainly try to answer the question of why the 3rd is the Achernar Lancers as they hail from the Marlette Combat Region - if I recall correctly. The 3rd is in a similar situation to the 4th as I described but you can count on them being active by January 1, 2786. So you'd have a year to make them active.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2010, 12:32:48 AM »

"In 2930 the Crucis Lancers underwent a major reformation and restructuring. Though most of the changes were merely paperwork alterations such as renumbering the regiments...It was only after a battalion of the 33rd Crucus Lancers, now the 7th was lost...From House Davion; The Federated Suns."

I'm messing with things but there were a lot of inconcistancies in Canon such as the number of regiments etc. Besides, this ain't canon CBT so I figured on playing fast and loose with shaky info cause I haven't seen a full break down of the 1st SW in BTSD yet.

First the 4th are not the Point Barrow Lancers at all, they probably will become the 3rd after 2930 (Maybe).  Or maybe they will get so hammered during the war that they'll be folder in to some other unit, dunno.
Second while they are the 4th in designation for the purposes of this story, they are simply the first to be active.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2010, 05:55:20 AM »

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Gregory Varnay looked up from his computer terminal as his liege lord swept in.  Barbara Liao pinned him with a raw almost feral stare.

"So it's true, Kerensky's gone."  She said coolly.

"So it appears, Celestial Wisdom. We have few assets in Combine space, but as far as we can tell the Star League Defense Force armada has left known space.  This concurs with the Statement provided us by the Draco ambassador"

The Chancellor nodded digesting the information; "Have you gotten a chance to review CASE CHERRY BOMB?"

"I have indeed, with the League troops gone, I would recommend using either the Turin Light Cavalry or your husband's own Highlanders to handle this operation, given the information supplied by or assets on Chesterton, the Tigers will be off world on training exercises with both the Chesterton Dragoons and the 5th Davion Guards after the Terran Regent's conference.  The only opposition will be this Chesterton Training Battalion and the local Militia.  Our troops under the guise of pirates should be able to overwhelm the local forces and leave behind a substantial core of operatives to set up CHERRY BOMB."

"Set it up, John has been agitating for some action anyway, have we any more information on the CTB?"

"No Highness, their commander still has them isolated from the general population, but unless they are getting far more support then we can see, their makeup is mostly mechanized infantry with about a battalion of BattleMechs."

Liao nodded a pensive look on her face.

"Still, their commander is a sneaky bastard, have him terminated as the Highlanders jump in.  John can handle him but I'd rather not take chances."

"By your command."  

Varnay sent out a pre planned command to go in under diplomatic cyphers to his operatives on the Davion possession.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2010, 07:31:28 AM »

Nice installment BTA, only thing the 4th Tau Ceti Rangers are a TRAF command.

The Turin Light Cavalry are the SD univerise equivilant.
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« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2010, 07:44:13 AM »

Great work on Cherry Bomb BTA but Six is right about the Tau Ceti Rangers they are a Terran command. The Turin Light Cavalry might not be ready for such an assignment. We do have an outline of the CCAF and Mercenary Guild to fall back on for possible replacements.

"In 2930 the Crucis Lancers underwent a major reformation and restructuring. Though most of the changes were merely paperwork alterations such as renumbering the regiments...It was only after a battalion of the 33rd Crucus Lancers, now the 7th was lost...From House Davion; The Federated Suns."

I'm messing with things but there were a lot of inconcistancies in Canon such as the number of regiments etc. Besides, this ain't canon CBT so I figured on playing fast and loose with shaky info cause I haven't seen a full break down of the 1st SW in BTSD yet.

First the 4th are not the Point Barrow Lancers at all, they probably will become the 3rd after 2930 (Maybe).  Or maybe they will get so hammered during the war that they'll be folder in to some other unit, dunno.
Second while they are the 4th in designation for the purposes of this story, they are simply the first to be active.

Keeping continuity while spinning an entertaining yarn is a tough thing. I don't want to tie your hands but the 4th just doesn't fit what we are doing from Threat Assessments. If you must have a Crucis Lancer regiment that is ready for action in the BTSD we have two. The 1st and 2nd Lancers. We also have regional forces that we've created that perhaps could fill the void. Threat Assessment summary again.

Been meaning to create a clearinghouse of information for BTSD on the development board but haven't gotten to it yet. Things are heating up at work for me and so for the next month I may not be able to do so but that will be the next extensive project on my list.
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Re: The Black Tigers: A Gathering Storm; Book One: A Distant Thunder
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2010, 08:12:58 AM »

Kind of off Topic but its been bugging me today, what happened to the Marine Regiment that joined the Tigers in the August coup?
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