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A New Vandenberg Triumph
« on: June 07, 2012, 06:35:36 AM »

In 2765 a battalion of Taurian BattleMechs stormed Aleksandr Kerensky's headquarters on New Vandenberg. In canon he made an escape in a BattleMech and managed to reach a spaceport.

But suppose he didn't?

The SLDF faces the biggest crisis since the Reunification Wars, with its Commanding General dead (or even captured), Richard Cameron on the throne and other than the reinforcements Kerensky brought with him, the SLDF is still scattered across the entire Inner Sphere.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 08:42:11 AM »

Do they get deChavellier as well? He would be the obvious replacement.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 10:12:05 AM »

Do they get deChavellier as well? He would be the obvious replacement.

I'd hazard a guess that he would be more of a threat than Kerensky.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 10:30:22 AM »

I kinda agree assuming deChavellier survives the House Lords could have a lot more to worry about.

He makes the logical choice to replace Kerensky and didn't he suggest to Kerensky to replace the House Lords at one point?

Say he survives completes the Reunification War then gets rid of Amaris, he could end up recreating the Terran Hegemony under House deChavellier
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 03:47:35 PM »

DeChavilier was also the guy who had the idea of the Exodus.

On the other hand he doesn't seem to be particularly politically adept and Richard - still alive and a puppet in Amaris' hands - might decide he doesn't want Kerensky's carefully groomed deputy to be in charge... and that decision could tear the SLDF apart once Richard is dead.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 04:34:48 AM »

Perhaps Amaris could make Richard name a puppet general or try to slowly turn the SLDF to his side.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 04:55:16 AM »

Amaris could actually end up Commanding General of the SLDF.

Richard trusts him, in fact views Amaris as his lone ally.  Having Stefan step down as ruler of the RWR (appointing his son in place) and taking over the SLDF would be a move to have someone he trusts in charge.

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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 05:16:40 AM »

Yes it is and one that if he lived might have come about
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 07:15:56 AM »

Was Amaris known as having any kind of command experience?
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 07:30:57 AM »

Just what his sick mind said he knew .
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 12:43:32 PM »

But would the SLDF accept that?  Would the House Lords?

I have a hard time thinking the Succession States leaders would accept a Periphery leader as the SLDF's Commanding General

You could be looking at rebellion by the SLDF against Richard - or an SLDF Civil War - or even the Succession lords breaking from the Star League Council in disgust.
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 01:51:34 PM »

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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 11:35:39 AM »

Was Amaris known as having any kind of command experience?

That may, or may not matter. Just spitballin here, but...

On one hand, to claim leadership of the SLDF Amaris would have to step down as leader of the Rim Worlds Republic. The move could weaken his position at home, and among the Republican army since it might look like he's abandoning them for greener pastures. Selim was only named Regent after Amaris claimed the title of Emperor, not before.

The jump in position could also ruin all of the plans he's set into motion for usurping the Hegemony. Rather than making it easier to launch the Coup, taking control of the SLDF means operating within its boundaries, not outside of it. While Amaris might be able to continue shipping in Republican troops into the Hegemony, it might be more difficult.

Plus, moving to the SLDF is not a lateral move, it's actually a step down and away from the throne: literally. Amaris would have to take command of the SLDF, this means leaving Terra and the Hegemony for the front line. This could seriously threaten or stall plans for the Coup. 

Also, while Richard II may or may not have the juice to appoint Amaris as Commanding General, his lack of military experience will likely stipulate titular control while he becomes "acclimated" with command and the SLDF. (Actually, I can almost guarantee it should Amaris make it past the High Council.)

So as Commanding General, Amaris might be closely scrutinized by a truly loyal member of the SLDF, or worse, forced to go through "SLDF boot camp" to learn the skills he needs to lead. Either way, his ability to direct the SLDF is affected, so taking command of the SLDF might actually hurt his powers, not expand them.

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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2012, 12:35:31 PM »

I don't fully agree with you.
Have you heard of Social Generals?  :P and just look at our history and how many times inept people with no qualifications were put in a commanding position?
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Re: A New Vandenberg Triumph
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 12:58:25 PM »

Kerensky is dead.  That means DeChavalier takes over (that is what deputy commanders are for, after all).  Of course, the Commanding General has to be approved by the High Council and nominated by the First Lord of the Star League.

What happens if Richard surprises everyone at the next meeting of the High Council, nominating his 'friend' Stefan Amaris as the Commanding General?  I don't see the High Council being amused . . . at all.  Stefan will get hand his head (figuratively) at the Council meeting, and Richard will throw a tantrum.  I can see him NOT appointing anyone as CG of the SLDF if Amaris cannot be appointed, leaving Aaron in a legal limbo.  Of course, Stefan Amaris would not want to be Commanding General, for the reasons already discussed above.  But he would use this 'snub' at Richard's authority to worm his way deeper and deeper into the First Lord's paranoia and sense of self-indulgence, leading to the Amaris Coup right on schedule.

At least, that is what happens if the universe makes any sense.

But what if Richard does successfully appoint Amaris as commanding general?  This is an abject betrayel of the SLDF by the First Lord.  Amaris has never served in the SLDF, and while he has Terran citizenship, he is the head of a foreign power.  What if Aaron DeChavalier and the ranking SLDF leadership, in the aftermath of General Kerensky's death and this . . . idiocy by the First Lord, take matters into their own hands?  What if they move First Army back to Terra with orders to arrest Amaris and remove Richard from office?

Is it possible that the instead of the Amaris Coup, we could see the DeChavalier Coup?

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