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Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« on: June 27, 2018, 03:16:37 PM »

I'm an old time Battletech fan and I have decided to join the BT on-line community and I have been kicking around an idea for a grim dark BT AU and I would like some advice on designing a BT AU setting.

Thanks in advance for your input.
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 03:26:44 PM »

I don't think there is a set method.
You can write a summary and then elaborate.
You can write like in a book or a Field Manual.
It all depends of what you have in your mind.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 04:38:23 PM »

I don't think there is a set method.
You can write a summary and then elaborate.
You can write like in a book or a Field Manual.
It all depends of what you have in your mind.

Ahh ok then, since I have mental disabilities it's going to take a lot of time and editing before it's done but I have a solid idea of where I'm going with this.
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 09:09:33 PM »

Welcome aboard!

An AU can consist of a short blurb, timeline, novel, or what i usually over do sourcebooks.

My object is to have fun and i hope u do here in our little Battletech corner.
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2018, 04:23:10 AM »

I'm an old time Battletech fan and I have decided to join the BT on-line community and I have been kicking around an idea for a grim dark BT AU and I would like some advice on designing a BT AU setting.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I'd say there are two possible approaches you can take to designing it.

Firstly, you can establish a point of departure from canon events and then extrapolate forwards to see how this changes the setting.

For example: suppose that Andery Kerensky did not die on Eden during Operation Klondike. In order to defuse the rivalry between Clan Wolf and Clan Jade Falcon over who would receive the Kerensky bloodline, Andery suggests that he joins the Jade Falcons and Nicholas joins the Wolves as intended. In the short term this reduces the rivalry but in the long term the two Bloodhouses emerge as rivals. After Nicholas' death Andery is elected as ilKhan (rather than Jerome Winson) and this unintentionally begins a whipsaw effect of the Clans always electing a Kerensky as the ilKhan, alternating between the two bloodhouses and as the differences mount, a schism develops between the two Clans and their respective allies. Once the Crusader issue arises, it becomes a fighting point between the two factions and leads to a short but savage war between the Clans over the issue - a war that wrecks several Clans to the point of absorption.

Secondly, you can establish the circumstances you want for the setting and then work backwards to see how this could have been reached.

For example: suppose you want a circumstance where the Third Succession War ended with the Federated Suns and the Free Worlds League joined forces and crushed the Capellan Confederation between them. How could this happen? Well, we're dealing with Janos Marik and either Hanse Davion, his brother Ian or their father Andrew. Janos became Captain General in 2991 and largely refrained from serious military action so the FWL could recover and also prepared for celebrations of the end of the millennium. As a young and idealistic ruler, possibly he issued something like Katrina Steiner's Peace Proposal. At the other side of that, there's Andrew Davion, who knows he doesn't have much time left and will have to entrust the Suns to his young sons and his son-in-law Michael - who is both ambitious and rabidly anti-Capellan (at least officially) - so while an outright peace proposal isn't feasible he's open to an alliance that could give his sons at least one secure flank. Also, Janos' first daughter Theresa is almost exactly the age of Hanse Davion. Janos was certainly interested in arranging politically useful marriages for his children so possibly the millennial celebrations are held by both states and culminate in the marriage of Hanse Davion to Therese Marik, possibly followed by a dramatic war declaration by the father of the bride and the elder brother of the groom: "In honour of this marriage we give the happy couple a princely prize: the Capellan Confedertion."

In both cases, start with an idea and flesh out. From there it depends how you want to present it:

As a scenario, you're mostly outlining the big picture.
As a story, you'd want to figure out who the key characters are and what arcs they'll experience through the story and which events should be told through their eyes, and which would not and therefore need alternative viewpoints for (or if they can be presented as second-hand news).

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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »

Oh i love the Kerensky schism idea. Would love to hear more!

Alternatively what if it is not Jade Falcon but Coyote where Andrey's love interest is present. You could see a sundering of that Warden alliance as a u propose.

Or another alternate I've given a little more thought is what if Karen Nagasawa goes with Clan Blood Spirit instead of Sea Fox? Do the Spirits take on some of the Foxes characteristics and remain involved with other Clans??

And the is what OBT is all about. ;)
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2018, 12:12:28 AM »

I'm an old time Battletech fan and I have decided to join the BT on-line community and I have been kicking around an idea for a grim dark BT AU and I would like some advice on designing a BT AU setting.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Hmm.  OK - anything really piss you off about the game fluff?  Try using that as inspiration to tell how it should have happened, in your opinion.  For me, it was the Genecaste in ISP - somebody at work finally told me to shut up and just make my own.  Never thought about doing it until that point.

Or involve yourself in somebody else's project that seems interesting.   ;D
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2018, 09:06:52 AM »

Thank you everyone for your input, my idea for an AU is set at the height or just after the Jihad when Invaders come to human space and start laying waste to the whole of humanity and turning this AU universe into a grimdark crap sack setting, there will be new tech/mechs/ships and what not and the use for nukes/bio/chem weapons on a scale far, far, FAR worse then what the word of Blake has done in the Jihad.

Right now I'm gather was much cannon info on the Jihad as I can.
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2018, 09:32:37 AM »

Aliens? Or Humans from beyond the Periphery? No need to ruin the surprise bud, I am just wondering aloud.

In any event good luck on your AU.

BattleTechWiki is a great resource for doin research, give it a look if you haven't already.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2018, 09:35:45 AM »

Aliens? Or Humans from beyond the Periphery? No need to ruin the surprise bud, I am just wondering aloud.

In any event good luck on your AU.

BattleTechWiki is a great resource for doin research, give it a look if you haven't already.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

Thanks for the link, as for who or what the Invaders are, well you'll just have to wait and see LOL, also what's the best way to edit/change the galactic maps of known human space?
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2018, 09:38:00 AM »

also what's the best way to edit/change the galactic maps of known human space?

I would say a mapping software with the right data.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2018, 10:30:15 AM »

also what's the best way to edit/change the galactic maps of known human space?

I would say a mapping software with the right data.

Ok what kind of mapping software and can I get it for free?
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2018, 01:05:35 AM »

I don't use mapping software myself.

Many of the sourcebooks recently published have a two-page spread map of the Inner Sphere which is easy enough to copy out and into an image file. From there even something as basic as the standard image editor for Windows can let you erase and add borders. There's a scale right there on the page.

Since the Jihad books unfortunately lack maps due to various reasons I won't go into, the best map to start with is probably the 3135 map from pages 10 and 11 of Era Report 3145. You might need to tweak them a little for the changes between the end of the Jihad and the start of the Dark Age but it was a fairly stable period for most of the Inner Sphere. Wars of the Republic Era shows the border changes from the 2nd Combine-Dominion War, the Victoria War and the Capellan Crusades.
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Re: Hello I have a few questions if you don't mind.
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2018, 01:12:54 AM »

I don't use mapping software myself.

Many of the sourcebooks recently published have a two-page spread map of the Inner Sphere which is easy enough to copy out and into an image file. From there even something as basic as the standard image editor for Windows can let you erase and add borders. There's a scale right there on the page.

It all depends on the precision you want.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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