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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2013, 11:35:12 PM »

I like it.  The mangling of the Pensacola Convoy lets us lose the Promethesus Data Core but the transports can be carrying any tech we want.

The SLDF remnant would be the "expeditionary" arm.  The CMF backstops the CDF while the SLDF hunts.


If the two Periphery Divisions broke the DRUM network, the Corps may not have gotten the recall, the ComCam might not have the resources to rebuild the DRUM.  If the Corps felt too pressed they may not have been able to send a recon back.  When do the Lyran merchants stop arriving?  It might take a while to notice but that would trip all sorts of alarm to the QM & Trans subcommands.

The Divisions might have been wrecked and the Corps reorganized to several RCTs.
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2013, 03:06:44 AM »

What about a population boost from people fleeing the Reunification Wars and (before that) the Age of War?  That might be a good way to get to over a billion by the tme the Star League finds them.

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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2013, 03:22:58 AM »

Perhaps, and this one is open for debate, the last pulse of refugees are ex-Rim Worlders who flee in that direction and become very much 2nd class citizens, like the Chinese were on the Australian goldfields or quarantined on thier own ghetto world.

Additionally, groups from the LC and FW are taken in, but are also quarantined, but not to the extent of the Rim Worlders.

This adds some heavy social tensions that are not talked about at parties, but are an ever growing issue for the SC, as the late migrant populations are growing at a greater rate than the stable and comfortable established systems.

Perhaps there are the first stirring of thoughts of independence from the SC?
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2013, 09:18:36 AM »

Sounds good to me guys. Do want a long timeline of my Aurolian Cluster? It has many groups immigrate over time that become the Royal Houses. Some might not fit. Others could. I could just outline the groups if you'd like.

MA I looked up the Southern Cross (aka the Crux) in wikipedia and I see now where you got a lot of your units from. Why don't we use that for Cross' original followers. It ties in nicely with Zoli and the Nationals idea I have. Cross (Australia) and the martyr Zoli (New Zealand) both originate from nation's who fly the Southern Cross (See appearing on Flags). Then you have Brazil and the Mercosur Customs Union giving us a nice South American presence. We could also have some Samoans and some Papua New Guiena in the expedition adding some islander flavor. I figure since the Southern Cross appears only in the Southern Hemisphere it is likely that is where all of our original denizens come from with few exceptions. On top of that the Eureka Flag could be the perfect rebellious symbol for our developing faction.

I also see the Americal Division supporting the Southern Cross which you have as part of your SLDF contingent. But why no 1st Marine Division?! Could be an interesting little experimental formation (bunch of CAANs lumped together) and sent out here.  ;)
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2013, 10:54:59 AM »

I was thinking about the CAAN shortage when I pushed the 62d on the Pensacola Convoy.  Maybe the High Command wanted to trade out an MI Division?  The 1st might be a combination of CAAN and straight Marine for orbital work.
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2013, 12:11:19 PM »

I didn't go with the CAAN Regiments because there were so FEW of them (and most of them Royal, to boot).  It would be awfully difficult to keep it a secret by taking a high-profile unit like the CAAN Marines.  But I like the ideas, gentlemen.  Now we just need to flesh it out.  If you want to add something, go ahead and write it up!

We've got plenty of systems left to flesh out and units and organization and government and . . . well, everything.

I did decide, however, to change the name of the political organization from the Commonwealth of the Southern Cross to the Congress of the Southern Cross.  It seperates the government structure from existing Houses a bit better, I think.

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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2013, 01:22:12 PM »

A few CAAN and the rest Line Marine for space ops?
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2013, 02:02:28 PM »

How did they manage to erase all records of the Southern Cross and Perth?
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2013, 02:16:52 PM »

I was actually thinking about the CAAN unit with the Pensacola convoy

They were embarked as security I'm guessing

When the remains of the Pensacola convoy reached the CSC they were pretty vocal about returning to the Inner Sphere but the Pensacola ships were in no state to travel and they were for lack of a better word marooned

When Kerensky called on the Corps to return the CAAN unit was most vocal about a return but they chose to follow orders of Corps command (their own quiet two fingers to the Corps that had defied the Commanding General)

When the squadron of ships returned during the start of the 1st Succession War the CAAN unit was first to speak up to volunteer but CSC said only WarShips would go

When all the Pensacola ships returned and were lost the CAAN unit began to suffer Survivors guilt not only are they the last CAAN unit they have lost the ships that took them to the CSC.

The unit voted against the Southern Cross decision to isolate themselves from the Inner Sphere

Upto date I see them still well equipped ant trained but resenting the CSC and having strong links to the CDL making them target of SLIC Investigations
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« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2013, 02:51:50 PM »

How did they manage to erase all records of the Southern Cross and Perth?

Maybe they didn't.  The Lyran Traders got busy hauling military supplies, got comandeered, or died during the 1st War.  The SLDF records were lost either during the Coup or when Kerensky stripped the HQ on New Earth, and the RWR folks had worse to think about or fled there.
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« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2013, 05:00:08 PM »

Nuclear fire seems to work pretty well either during the Coup or 1st War
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2013, 02:32:48 PM »

How did they manage to erase all records of the Southern Cross and Perth?

Maybe they didn't.  The Lyran Traders got busy hauling military supplies, got comandeered, or died during the 1st War.  The SLDF records were lost either during the Coup or when Kerensky stripped the HQ on New Earth, and the RWR folks had worse to think about or fled there.

And what about the Lyran Commonwealth? Lyran Trading Companies might inform the LCAF that there is something valuable out there or a potential threat.
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Re: Forging the Southern Cross
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2013, 03:53:04 PM »

But considering that they are trying to control 2/3 of the former Rim Worlds, whilst fighting the Mariks and Kuritas and trying to get as much of the Hegemony as they can, I think they will be a little too busy.
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« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2013, 09:37:30 PM »

Isesaki Shipping & Ozawa Mercantile each had a ship in the Convoy as well.  Think the Combine came calling?
The Lyrans were pushing an Ambassador out there at some point.  Did s/he make it?
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« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2013, 10:47:52 PM »

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Star (Recharge Time):  Security (182 hours)
Star Type:  G1V
Number of Planets:  5
Time to Jump Point:  7.2 days
Recharging Station:  Nadir

Planet:  Queensland (Punchbag)
Position:  4
Planet Type:  Jungle/rocky
Gravity:  1.1
Atmospheric Pressure:  Standard
Atmospheric Composition:  Nitrogren, Oxygen
Percent Surface Water:  43%
Percent, Level of Native Life:  20%Plants
Satellites:  2 (Punch and Judy)
HPG Station:  Class B
Planetary Capital:  New Brisbane

Founded just over ten years after the formation of the CDF Queensland has been used as a live-fire exercise world since nearly day one.  Although the world has a sizable population that now lives in and around the planet's ocean which covers nearly half the surface area the worlds main use is for staging large scale training and staging of various military units.  At any time there could be as many as three CDF or CMF units on the world training, when the SLDF garrisoned Perth they began to lease areas of the world from the CDF much to the chagrin of many of the locals who thought the world was their own demise.  Once an entire Corps had been sent to the CSC area SLDF uniforms became as common as CDF ones as everyone trained to defend the area.

Instead of producing anything of worth the populous of Queensland have built their world around the various military units that come to the planet for training and war-games.  Populating the beautiful jungle areas that surround the ocean you can't walk five metres without some sort of attraction.  Unsurprisingly given the nature of the world prostitution on Queensland is legal although it is heavily regulated by authorities and an overly large police force which is in fact part of the CMF.

The Queensland's system has another more dangerous feature - no gas giants.  All four planets are barren rocks that have been smashed by hundreds of rogue asteroids over the year.  Queensland itself is hit by thousands of asteroids yearly earning it the nickname "Punchbag" its two satellites have also earned the names "punch and judy" because they shield the planet from even more hits.  Although so far there has not been a major asteroid or comet strike against the world the population believe it is only a matter of time before there is a major strike...  to keep the local population more happy the SLDF have deployed early warning satellites just outside Queensland's gravity well at fixed points constantly scanning the system for dangers.  If an asteroid is detected that could cause severe damage to the planet SLDF Aerospace Fighter Wings and assault DropShip Squadrons use it for target practice.  If it continues to close on the planet and remain a danger of major damage one of the WarShips are deployed to engage it with heavier naval weapons.  To show the SLDF at work defending the population such events are broadcast across the planet.  These screenings and the SLDF "victories" have kept the population very supportive of their defenders.
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.
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