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  ok so heres some more.............


  I've choosen to design a weapons list pertaining to just the Federated Suns. It's not quit what I want it to be so It's not going up just yet. I want those of you who feel connected to the other houses to produce simalar lists. Each house has a few individual things that make it what they are, Iwish for these to grow from the ashes of the disconnect from the universe. 
 Political intrigue and family infighting is guaranteed in some way so please play up those angles. I've got a good idea of the military tech base and how it could translate into civilian life. I have major systems to introduce into the universe, Federated Suns specific, and it will have an economic affect for everyone in this AU. I'm almost finished fleshing these out as well. I am willing to take pointers and Errata questions, so that my systems are useable and understandable. I'm hoping these will be up by the weekend.
 I might need help with persons within cannon for the connection backward, again, I haven't alot to work with and am shareing a single computer with multiple females.

 Ultimately I'm having a rebirth of the Federated suns in 3175 with the crowning of an Archon. Some of the names you will now, this is done for a reason that will develop and provide angles for others to use. In 3175 I have choosen to connect the FS with the Canopians on the idea of mutually assured SURVIVAL. i am designing a build up through the time stream for this.
 
 The New Archon will be; Courtney Wolf Davion, decendennt of Victor Davion and Jaime Wolf, What I haven't got worked out is the time from 3050 to 3100, I've got a cloudy thought line of Courtneys Parentage, which will connect the Centrella line, But I could use help in solidifying it so it makes sense to me. I hope to have this baseline up by the weekend as well...

  comments, thoughts, ideas, co authors are welcome to present themselves.......

Interesting, few things:

1) Archon is for the Lyran Commonwealth (Alliance, etc.) traditionally. The leader of the FedSuns should be the First Prince (usually still called First Prince even if it is a female).

2) Tying Jaime Wolf and Victor Steiner-Davion shouldn't be too hard however unlikely it is in canon, Victor had two sons I believe (if I'm remembering my Dark Age correctly) who were mentioned to have attended his funeral in the 3130s (3135 again if I'm remembering correctly) Jaime's prodegy is much foggier but I believe it hasn't been rulled out that Maeve Wolf had some sort of decendants (I would assume a Wolf would be running what's left of the Dragoons in the Dark Age for instance) but you can change that to what you need with standing rule #1 (what ever works for your game)

3) Adding a Centrella component would be much more difficult, and in fact linking the FS and the MoC would be hard to justify unless your point of convergance (where your AU leaves canon) is before the founding of the Trinity Alliance. By the Jihad the MoC and CC are fairly intertwined and this only grows through the Jihad up thourgh the 3100s and into the Dark Age, in fact by 3130 they act basically as two large divisions of virtually the same state (from what I gather from the canon material available for the time). Compound this with the fact that Sun-Tzu Liao and Naomi Centrella married and had children (one of which - Daoshen Liao leads the CC in the Dark Age and Naomi's first daughter leads the MoC) the Centrella line is pretty intertwined with the Liao line although Naomi did have another sister (Erde I believe) so you might be able to explore that string.

You basically have such a gap between your AU and the canon timeline (especially if you're not including Post-Jihad or even the Jihad itself) that you can do anything with it that you want, however I've found the best AUs try to stay true to the universe as much as possible besides their point of convergence (ie what made your universe different from the canon one). Depending on how you're doing it there are several good examples of different ways on this site. Blacknova's Kapteyn Universe is a large scale recreation of a majority of the entire battletech universe (and with the eventual inclusion of the clans even more so) which basically only differs from canon on a very small number of things initially and is growing in a way that feels like "this could have really happened". Other examples in other styles are DragonCat's Alternate Timeline with Thanks that is very nicely done focusing just on a timeline style. Then you have other ways like Clarion Call which is an awesome AU setting by Takiro (that I'm hoping he continues) based mostly around fiction (ie Novel style writing)

I have been working on trying to come up with a sussinct rundown of the Human Sphere post jihad (as I'm sure many have been) by pulling references from the Jihad Books and the awesome Field Reports and Objective Reports that they've been putting out. I'd be happy to correspond with you about whats going on post Jihad (although grabbing as many of the actual books or pdfs as you can would probably be the most helpful)


Well sorry if I rambled Posting this from work.

SSJ's post gets a big thumbs up from yours truly. Good stuff

Like I said, check out MadCap's OR:3067 for a list of important planets and factories. You can also use Sarna.net to research the Davion family and anything else you might need if you don't have access to all of the books. It won't be 100% current, but the Sarna.net staff if pretty good with accuracy up to a certain point. (That point being any new books that haven't matured past a specific point.)

 yes I started looking at it and am happy with it.  What my thought was is Courtney is an established personality, and using the two honorifics in that order is to demostrate the connection between new and old with the FedSun being in the lead. I'm still looking at the family tree deal.  As for Victor, in my version he DID NOT  abdicate, instead he attempted to maintain at least the Fed Sun through the opening of Jihad. He was killed DURING  the bombardment with Nukes, In my version the Jihad was ABSOLUTE death to the infidel.

  I'm looking at who could escape to the MoC. has to be A Davion.....

  little bit more research today, think I might have the family tree divergance figured, I've also finallized the basic construction
changes I'm putting in place.  I also want to add;  if you want to use the 'old' systems go right ahead. might take a day or so to put on computer

  Ok think I got something here.  The blakests reinvented the SDS in terra orbit, thus creating a shield around terra, it wouldn't be till the mid 3090's that infiltration finally destroyed the system.  by that time the blakest protectorate had expanded to nearly 300 worlds, creating a dense "Mote' in which opposing forces had to contend with. The Jihad was never actually countered, all attempts at a full scale responce were countered.
 At the same time, from 3069 to 3090. multiple nuclear fusion SUICIDE attacks were conducted, a list of affected worlds includes but is not limited to THARKAD,, SIAN ,, NEW AVALON.
 INDUSTRIAL attacks also continued, as the Toyama began it's march across the sphere, it took what it wanted.  By 3100 it to began to falter of it's own mind and extended body. The clans conducted multiple rejuvinating attacks on these targets, reshaping it's teeth in the process.
 NOW, the Blakests control of the HPG network, did stem any counter offensive, till in a raging madness, the destroyed almost ALL the systems they operating and controlled.  Locally this was countered by the remaining house lords, to varing degrees of success. Over all the HPG wipe out was thought to be 98%.
 Terra itself became a storm of unending warfare, as the factions began to devour themselves, with little in the way of information commerce the universe fell into a confused near stagnated economic political and comerce funk that would still have affects as late as 3175. Word of Blake would seem to crumble as a unified system and mission during this time.
 Reformation is now the guiding principle and reconnecting with the peoples of the inner sphere.  As to the AU, I would like to see HOW  the known houses, units and corporations respond and that interplay of stratagy and morals.  I have more development  in mind, I love Sarna!!