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Umm, isn't this thread about Obamacare. Can we drift back to that. 

Haha yeah good idea.....

  There are a few things that bother me about government programs such as Obamacare (A.K.A. Affordable Care Act) and what it ultimately leads to:

1. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Obamacare was Constitutional because having the Federal Government requires you, merely for existing, to buy a product or service like health insurance, was somehow considered a tax. What do you think would the general reaction of the court and media be if the Government required you to buy a gun for self defense?

2. The Obamacare website had 400 million dollars spent on it and it didn’t even come close to working. Did everyone or even anyone actually responsible for this disaster get fired? If the government can’t even do stuff like setup the health care website right even with the vast resources at their disposal, what makes you think they will fare better with things like national health care? In addition, Obamacare completely sidesteps the issue of addressing the issue of high medical costs.

3. The politicians lied when they said Obamacare would be cheaper and you could keep you own health insurance. Obamacare is less about making sure that you pay your own bills and more about making sure that you pay someone else’s bills. If the Federal Government is to get you to pay other peoples’ bills, you have to pay more and obtain coverage that you may not want or need. If a random number of people were asked if it was all right to be forced by the government to pay other peoples’ bills, I suspect I know what the vast majority would say

4. Obamacare is the worst kind of government program being a hybrid of a large government program and a huge unfunded mandate on the individual; in the future both of these parts will likely get larger and probably encroach more directly on our freedoms. Big government is the death of the middle class. In general, the “poor” get most of the benefits of government programs while paying the least into them while the “rich” get the least benefits of government programs while paying the most into them; the middle class normally can’t afford the massive amount of government programs and receive the least benefit from them, usually forcing them into being poor. I prefer a country with a low, middle and upper class as opposed to just a lower and upper class.

  Whether you agree with some, all or none of my post, please leave the straw man arguments at the door…

Tuesday we have our benefits meeting. This is where I will find out how much my insurance is going to go up. I expect it to at least double, if not triple. I already live paycheck to paycheck. Any increase is going to cut into my already small discretionary budget.

Year-to-year, you're likely to see a 10-20% increase in a policy premium. Given that most plans are now unqualified for tax purposes, they will be offering an ACA "equivalent." Same money, much less in benefits and you pay more at the doctor's office for the same services.