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Title: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 11, 2018, 09:19:33 AM: A little more than a year ago you helped me elect a Smoke Jaguar saKhan for my alternate Battletech universe. That was so much fun I've decided to make it two years running with the election of not one but two Coyote Khans.

My original idea for this was based on a couple of lines in Field Manual: Warden Clans (FASA1711) page 48 under Khan Sullivan Koga. â€œWhen Steele finally retired in 3052, Sullivan Koga and three others were named as potential successors. By the time the vote was called. After a week of debate in Clan Council, Koga had rallied most of the Clan's warriors behind her and was elected Khan.â€

Further work on the Coyotes as part of my ongoing Quicksilver Trial design contests lead my group (Jeremy, Gus, and myself) to run a simulation on Saturday February 24, 2018 which was basically a rerun of canon. After making a few changes here and there I wanted to recreate and see what the results would be before actually writing up the battle.

So please vote! This time around you will have two votes â€“ please cast one for the Khan and one for the saKhan candidate youâ€™d think is the best choice. Voting and the debate will run for a week here and on the main forums. Folks voting here are allowed to stuff the ballot box for their favorites by journeying over to the other forum and casting another ballot. Please join in and enjoy!

Khanship of the Coyotes
June 3052

Following the Tukayyid the elder Khans of the Coyotes both opted to retire rather than lead their Clan through that battleâ€™s tumultuous aftermath. While Khan Robin Steele had spent nearly two decades in office saKhan Tain McTighe had been there for just four short years. The former Loremaster was a contemporary of the Khan who had simply moved up after the severe combat injuries sustained by Pazi Tchernovkov had left him unable to fulfill his duties. Their mutual decision to step down in favor of new blood bought forth numerous contenders and opposing factions for the leadership of their Clan.

Mood of the Clan
Despite their Warden stance many warriors are upset by the Clan loss at Tukayyid to the inferior forces of the InnerSphere. This defeat inflicted by the ComGuards forces a 15-year truce on the Clans threatening the success of the invasion and perhaps their very way of life. Ever calculating the odds, the Coyotes know this time will enable the barbarous forces of the Great Houses to arm themselves in preparation for a renewed offensive. This will make any effort to enlighten the Spheroids in the just concepts of the Honor Road much costlier and could even result in an attack on the Clan Homeworlds.
Some blame their Khans who while vocally Warden ultimately voted for the Crusade and in turn did not stand by Wolf in the Refusal Trial that followed. Others were disappointed that the Clan finished was a distant eighth to eleventh in the Revival Trials leaving them well out of the invasion. They blame the failed series of trials against Clan Snow Raven in 3047 which sapped the Touman of valuable resources. No one argues that the Coyotes have seen significant setbacks for a century with territorial losses like Homer, Brim, Priori, Marshall, Hoard, and finally Albion marking a great decline.
Many desire Khans who can make Coyote great again and restore strength to the Warden cause. How this will be achieved is another matter entirely as many units remain woefully understrength even though the Clan still fields a dozen Galaxies. Even with fresh sibkos graduating and new equipment rolling of the production line these shortages cannot be resolved. Reforms are needed which most warriors realize but each clings to their proud Clusters with their own distinct record of glorious combat. Still a contraction might be unavoidable.

The Nominees for Khan

SULLIVAN KOGA
Rank/Position: Star Colonel / Commander of Golden Keshik
Year of Birth: 3022 (29 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 0/1
Profile: Approaching thirty years of age Sullivan Koga is the finest Mechwarrior in her Clan. She has spent most of her career in the Golden Keshik as the young protÃ©gÃ© of Khan Robin Steele. Koga learned much from her mentor as she served first as her adjutant then as her champion when Steeleâ€™s physical condition declined. Considered the odds-on favorite to ascend to the leadership of the Clan she stands ready to begin the difficult reforms needed to return the Coyotes to greatness.

BROOKE STEELE
Rank/Position: Galaxy Commander / Commander of Lambda Galaxy
Year of Birth: 3004 (48 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 2/3
Profile: Despite nearing her fifth decade Brooke Steele is a beautiful blonde Mechwarrior whose slight gray hair is the only small clue to her advanced age. Thriving on conflict she maintains her fighting edge constantly dispatching those who would challenge her. She was placed into second line service for speaking out against her Clanâ€™s leadership and was a rival of the old Khan. Derided as a Shadow Crusader for her support of the invasion this superb counter puncher now aims to assume her rightful place among the Coyotes.

TOMAS MCKIBBEN
Rank/Position: Galaxy Commander / Commander of Beta Galaxy
Year of Birth: 3018 (34 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 1/2
Profile: The second youngest candidate for Khan has many nicknames including CoyWolf and the Inquisitor. Behind his rugged appearance lies a strategic genius whose detailed oriented approach has led to many battlefield successes that seem to almost contradict the Coyotesâ€™ decline. While a little socially awkward and stubborn he has a good sense of humor which earns him many friends. After witnessing freeborn heroism in battle he has become the foremost champion of their training in the Clan.

VIDYA LEVIEN
Rank/Position: Galaxy Commander / Commander of Gamma Galaxy
Year of Birth: 3007 (45 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 1/2
Profile: While decanted as an aerospace pilot a tragic training accident in sibko threatened to end her career before it began. Despite never being able to fly again cybernetic replacements helped her regain a place in warrior training as a Mechwarrior. Visibly scared and weathered Vidya looks older than she actually is leading to many challenges from those who suspect weakness. None have survived an encounter which this bladed weapon specialist and once avid blood sport participant where she earned the nickname Lobo. Her cold analytical approach leads most to think she is more machine than woman but none question her skill.

The Nominees for saKhan

PAZI TCHERNOVKOV
Rank/Position: Galaxy Commander / Commander of Alpha Galaxy
Year of Birth: 3013 (39 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 1/2
Profile: Three and a half years ago Pazi Tchernovkov was the saKhan of the Coyote Clan. Despite his Warden views Pazi voted for the invasion following the Outbound Lightâ€™s discovery of the Clan Homeworlds. During the invasion debates he spoke at the Grand Council in favor of a five Clan operation to adequately subdue the InnerSphere. Tchernovkov sought to lead his Clan to victory in the Placement Trials and thus prove the Coyotes deserved to fight alongside their longtime Wolf Clan allies in Operation Revival. To that end he assumed personal command of the 38th Assault Cluster in the Placement Trials urging his warriors onward from the front. Unfortunately, during the opening round against the Fire Mandrills he was severely injured in combat. Near death and clearly unable to fulfill his duties the Coyotes quickly selected a new saKhan to serve their Clan as Pazi fought for his life. Luck, a strong will to live, and superior Clan medical technology bought him back from the edge a year and half later. Returning to the warrior caste he quickly regained his position in the Clan recently earning command of Alpha Galaxy. His rapid revival which including his election as Bloodhouse leader no doubt contributed to his Khans decision to retire. He now stands ready to regain all that he lost.

MASON JERRICHO
Rank/Position: Galaxy Commander / Commander of Pi Galaxy
Year of Birth: 3011 (41 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 2/2
Profile: This veteran second line commander with thick brown hair and a large beard is a former ristar whose promising career was derailed somewhat by his political viewpoints. Always looking to the gloried past Mason is an avid student of military history and regularly uses lessons taken from long ago on the modern battlefield. His successes apparently were overlooked by former commanders who he insists stole his triumphs. Suspected of being a sympathizer for the invasion and expressing Crusader viewpoints in an ardently Warden Clan earned him instead a garrison posting. While bitter about this treatment Jerricho has not allowed it to affect his performance becoming one of the best reserve commanders in the Clan. Quite adept at defensive warfare this senior officer and Bloodhouse Leader has become known as â€˜the Wall Builderâ€™ within the Coyote Clan.

GREGOR NASH
Rank/Position: Loremaster / Commander of Bronze Keshik
Year of Birth: 3009 (43 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 1/1
Profile: Elected Loremaster by the Clan Council after the Revival Trials this bald blue-eyed warrior monk maintains a slight beard and calm demeanor. Radiating a sense of serene tranquility even in the most chaotic situations imparts a natural leadership ability which draws followers to him. Leading a spartan lifestyle Gregor is utterly devoted to Dana Kufahlâ€™s spiritualism and widely respected throughout the Clan. Most tend to focus on this deep faith or his dry personality but none should overlook his better than elite status in an OmniMech. It is this martial prowess along with a superior strength of belief that won him his current positions as Bloodhouse Leader and Loremaster of the Coyotes.

ELAM TCHERNOVKOV
Rank/Position: Star Colonel / Commander of Silver Keshik
Year of Birth: 3020 (32 years old)
â€˜Mech Gunnery/Piloting: 1/2
Profile: This tall Mechwarrior with brown almost jet-black hair combed straight back has piercing steel blue eyes and an almost unmatched wit. Birthed from some of the Coyotesâ€™ finest blood heritages much was expected from Elam and his sibkin. Though he was the only warrior to graduate his remarkable performance in his initial Trial of Position defeating all three of his opponents justified his pedigree. This promising ristar soon won his bloodname and was posted to Albion as one of his Clanâ€™s foremost dueling experts. Unfortunately, despite his best efforts the Burrock Clan was successful in winning exclusive possession of their homeworld sullying his otherwise unblemished record. Wanting to fully understand the loss and the Coyoteâ€™s decline Tchernovkov has since become obsessed with utilizing technology to reverse his Clanâ€™s flagging fortunes. The protÃ©gÃ© of former saKhan and Loremaster Tain McTighe worked his way back to command Silver Keshik despite tales of clandestine Watch missions and extensive fraternization with the Scientist Caste. In spite of this gossip and certain compulsive behavior he successfully served as Champion for his mentor until McTighe choose to retire following Tukayyid. While many traditionalists would like to see him abjured this dark horse candidate could well succeed McTighe as saKhan of the Clan.

POLITICAL FACTIONS

Successors (Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov)
   Faced with several difficult decisions and hardships this faction insists Khan Robin Steele did her best but reforms are necessary going forward in order to revitalize the Clan. These hardline Wardens insist that the Truce of Tukayyid must be honored and the weight of the defeat should be placed squarely on the Crusaders who foolishly squandered every advantage to their opponents. They remain cautiously optimistic on the news of Operation Restoration but want to see more details before they fully endorse that new plan to restore the Star League. Internally they want to explore options that would allow trueborns a second Trial of Position if they should fail their first. These seconds, if successful, would serve in garrison units bolstering the Clanâ€™s defenses while the Touman is restructured. While details on this reorganization are vague the understrength nature of many commands and the current top-heavy nature of the Coyote rank and file are likely to be challenged. This problem has grown with some even reviving the ancient saying about the Coyotes having too many Chiefs and too little Indians as some units have more officers than troops. Diplomatically and territorially this faction remains committed to maintaining the status quo until these reforms can be carried out.

Reactionaries (Brooke Steele and Mason Jerricho)
   Longing for a return to the glory days of the Coyote this faction blames much of the downturn on Khan Steele and her predecessor, Khan Terrence Kufahl. Strict adherents to zellbrigen they insist the Truce of Tukayyid should not be honored because of the duplicity seen during Operation Scorpion and the innumerable dezgra tactics used by the InnerSphere against the Invaders. If possible, they would like to join the invasion themselves in order to shorten the inevitable liberation of the Great Houses. While Operation Restoration appeals to them on this level there are parts of Operation Revival they actually prefer such as a limited number of proven Clans. Perhaps their most controversial call is to reactivate those Bloodnames Reaved following the Blood Scandal. This incident which happened more than 75 years ago has cost the Clan some of its best legacies for far too long. Propagating those heritages would allow the Coyotes to expand sibko production and grow once again in their opinion. For these beliefs some call them Shadow Crusaders despite their insistence that they are a traditional Wardens. They also wish to reclaim Coyote legacies lost to other Clans and trade some Warships (perhaps 2 or 3; Potemkin, Sovetskii Soyuz, and Essex) for ground forces. As the OmniMech Clan which is usually dominated by Mechwarriors this is an interesting idea to many. They are whole uninterested in territorial expansion in the Homeworlds or undertaking any caste reforms whatsoever preferring the status quo position of this conservative Clan.

Spiritualists (Tomas McKibben and Gregor Nash)
   Urging a return to the faith which binds their Clan together the Spiritualists believe that the Coyotes must fundamentally change their thinking. Insisting that the Clan never should have voted for the invasion in the first place or participated in the Revival Trials whatsoever they would actually want to recall the Invading Clans back to the homeworlds. For these reasons they wholeheartedly support the Truce and are not interested in Operation Restoration whatsoever. They favor homeworld expansion particularly against the Invading Crusader Clans whose assets will serve to strengthen the Coyotes and force their adversaries back to the Kerensky Cluster. They are also for warrior caste reforms like the second Trial for trueborns and increasing freeborn sibkos. The Spiritualists propose the biggest diplomatic initiative of any faction which would have Warden Missionaries deepen ties to friendly Clans (Wolf, Goliath Scorpion, Snow Raven, Kindraa Payne, and even old enemies like Cloud Cobra), while spreading their message to others (Blood Spirit, Diamond Shark, Ghost Bear, Hellâ€™s Horses, Nova Cat, Steel Viper), and cutting ties with ardent Crusaders (Burrock, most Fire Mandrill Kindraa, Ice Hellion, Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar, Star Adder).

Technologists (Vidya Levien and Elam Tchernovkov)
   The key to overcoming the challenges facing the Clan is technology according to this radical faction. Embracing a new approach based on greater cooperation with the Scientist Caste will allow the Coyotes to build on their greatest strength. Warriors should facilitate scientific endeavors of the Clan by challenging for key research assets to supplement technological gain. Other castes like the merchants should also help support the Scientist Caste for the greatest possible advantage by obtaining InnerSphere tech for study and possible innovations. Working with other Clans especially like Diamond Shark and Wolf on research could further these endeavors. They think the Truce of Tukayyid is a horrible idea because the InnerSphere will be able to close the technological gap and be able to bring greater numbers to bear against the Clans. For these reasons they are eager for Operation Restoration to begin as soon as possible and they would lift the ban on Freeborns to augment the Touman. These warriors can ideally serve in second line units ably defending the Clan but would not be eligible for front line service. They also favor the establishment of a second trial for Trueborns and the creation of additional Reserve Clusters to bolster front line Galaxies. Older OmniMechs which are currently cached like the Coyotl, Lupus, and Woodsman could be activated for these units. Restarting their production could also help the Clan achieve â€˜total modularityâ€™ eliminating standard BattleMechs from service altogether. Additionally, they say the combat arm has grown too heavy and that the Clan has forgotten about its lighter weight forces. Finally they favor exploration and exploitation of resources in the Deep Periphery which could aid the invasion and add valuable resources to the Clan.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: masterarminas on March 11, 2018, 10:35:16 AM: McKibben and Nash. Although I would reverse the two, putting Nash as Khan and McKibben as saKhan. Still, either one in either position would work for me. Both would, in my opinion, begin to bring about a Coyote Revival (no pun intended) without (possibly) treading down the path that the Society took in canon. Whether or not they would be successful? That is an open question. But that is my vote.

MA
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 11, 2018, 11:45:12 AM: Thanks for the input MA! Care to jump in to character and add to the debate? McKibben in particular is off to an early lead.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: DOC_Agren on March 11, 2018, 02:59:23 PM: Well I'm no clanner...
But if I had to choice.. and I'm not limited to views that you gave. Based on the info provided to me.

I would like to see Pazi Tchernovkov as Khan, knowing that he would have had to fight to regain his position plus as it says he was recently election as Bloodhouse leader. I think he would bring the Clan to heel

And then bring in Tomas McKibben as his SaKhan. Looking at him to help bring the Freeborns and the other 2nd liner forces which they need to support the Clan to make it strong and great again.

There are many things that they have to do bring them back to a Strong Clan. I would accept the reverse of the 2 if I had to, but I think McKibben needs more political seasoning to be a good Khan.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 12:17:13 AM: Thanks for chimming in Doc!

Well the first day of voting is over and thanks 10 members from each site we have some interesting early results.

Galaxy Commander Tomas McKibben (Commander of Beta Galaxy) is easily outpacing his opponents for the Khanship with 7 total votes compared to 1 for each of his rivals.

Much closer race for saKhan with Loremaster Gregor Nash (Commander of Bronze Keshik) and Star Colonel Elam Tchernovkov (Commander of Silver Keshik) tied for the lead with 3 votes each. Closely behind them is Galaxy Commander Pazi Tchernovkov (Commander of Alpha Galaxy) with 2 votes. Only Galaxy Commander Mason Jerricho (Commander of Pi Galaxy) has yet to garner any support whatsoever.

Looking forward to seeing what tomorrow brings. Hopefully some bloodnamed will step forward with their opinions soon.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: drakensis on March 12, 2018, 04:21:28 AM: I'd agree that the Coyotes need to look at getting their footing back before getting adventurous. Spiritualist faction has my votes - although as stated by others, Nash might make a better Khan (longer experience with the Clan's overall leadership) and McKibben a better saKhan (more military minded and a little less socially adept).
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 12, 2018, 07:19:00 AM: Clan Coyote needs both more tech and getting back to its roots (but the later first as without soul, technology doesn't give the prime Warriors needed by Clan Coyote).
This is why I go with Brooke Steele and Elam Tchernovkov.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 12, 2018, 07:20:58 AM: Quote from: Ice Hellion on March 12, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
This is why I go with Brooke Steele and Elam Tchernovkov.

And I managed to misvote :(
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 08:10:37 AM: Alot of folks going with the Spiritualists. Thanks for your input guys.

What happened Ice? U can vote on the CBT forum too bud if u wanna second try.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 12, 2018, 08:30:49 AM: Quote from: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 08:10:37 AM
Alot of folks going with the Spiritualists. Thanks for your input guys.

What happened Ice? U can vote on the CBT forum too bud if u wanna second try.

I picked the wrong Khan.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 10:31:42 AM: Which one??
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 12, 2018, 03:13:48 PM: Quote from: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
Which one??

Galaxy Commander Vidya Levien instead of Brooke Steele, which for me is a Spiritualist as the Reactionaries and the Spiritualists are in line.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 12, 2018, 09:35:00 PM: [I will see what I can do Ice ;)]

Well since no one has gotten into character I guess I will break the ice;

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'I, Star Captain Jahan Topol of the Silver Keshik, endorse Elam Tchernovkov as the new saKhan of our Clan. Let none doubt his ability to restore the Coyotes to their rightful place among the descendants of Kerensky!'

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And with day two of voting (21 members from both sites casting ballots) nearly complete it is Tomas McKibben running away with the election as Khan with a dozen votes while Sullivan Koga has only half as many. Vidya Levien with three votes is half as much as Koga and trailing in last place is Brooke Steele with only two.

Much closer in the saKhan race with Gregor Nash and Elam Tchernovkov being tied for the lead with seven votes a piece. Pazi Tchernovkov has got four and quite embrassingly no one has spoke for Mason Jerricho thus far.

Still five more days to go folks, please vote and talk up your choice!!
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Shadow_Wraith on March 12, 2018, 09:58:42 PM: I vote for Tomas McKibben for Khan and Elam Tchernovkov for SaKhan! Seyla
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 13, 2018, 04:51:50 PM: I, Warrior Elissa Jerricho of Delta Galaxy, stand for Brooke Steele as Khan. We need a true Warrior as our leader, one not linked to our past but to our future, one not frightened to fight, one that is not afraid to tell the truth and to pay the price for it.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 13, 2018, 05:36:07 PM: Thanks for the votes Shadow_Wraith!

Quote from: Ice Hellion on March 13, 2018, 04:51:50 PM
I, Warrior Elissa Jerricho of Delta Galaxy, stand for Brooke Steele as Khan. We need a true Warrior as our leader, one not linked to our past but to our future, one not frightened to fight, one that is not afraid to tell the truth and to pay the price for it.

Awesome Ice, thanks for being our first in character endorsement! I will add this to my growing story. Please keep them coming folks!!

An important election update - five more votes today so far from members. Still no votes in the Mason Jerricho for saKhan campaign but Pazi is closing in with five votes total now althoughGregor and Elam are still leading the pack with eight votes each for the jumior Khan position. For the Khanship - Brooke Steele who warrior Elissa Jerricho just endorsed has only two votes with Vidya Levien doubling her total with four. Double that and you get Sullivan Koga at eight closing in on McKibben with lucky thirteen.

As I just pointed out over on the other boards your votes [and endorsements] count cause we are gonna play out the Refusal or combat to sanction the election when all is said and done. The candidate who wins the vote can select his choice of Mech and the losers get their ride based on percentage of the vote they finished with. ;)
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 15, 2018, 06:28:48 AM: We got another in character endorsement over on CBT yesterday and I have been working on some canon characters endorsement of the candidates as well. Please join the debate and vote!

â€˜As one who ensures training in the ways of the Coyote and our Warden philosophy â€“ I, Star Colonel Creighton Heller as Chief Pack Master, back the candidacy of Tomas McKibben and Gregor Nash. They alone are uniquely suited for the leadership of our Clan.â€™

â€˜The Reactionariesâ€™ idea of selling our Clanâ€™s vital warship support is the height foolishness. It is our fleet that helped make our Golden Age possible in the first place. Without it the Coyote would be a second line Clan capable of garrison duty only. Even these â€˜Solahma Crusadersâ€ should realize that. I, Star Admiral Demos McTighe proudly back Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov for the leadership of the Clan.â€™

â€˜Sadly, no Warden has the courage to back the only candidates who will do what is necessary to fulfill Nicholas Kerenskyâ€™s dream. I, Star Colonel Lassiter Kozyrev, urge my fellow Coyotes to accept what already is happening. Support the Crusade, vote for Brooke Steele as Khan and Mason Jerricho as saKhan. They will unleash our full potential and return our Clan to its rightful place!â€™

â€˜I, Star Colonel Silas Kufahl of Gamma Galaxy say the reorganization eluded to by Sullivan Koga violates our traditions and lacks honor. Her reforms are unnecessary. We should endorse new ideas like those presented by Vidya Levien and Elam Tchernovkov that can restore our Clan without sundering its gloried units.â€™

â€˜Dealing with freebirths is one thing but a warrior who operates with the Watch like Elam Tchernovkov is not worthy of such high office and his Scientist Khan running mate is more machine than trueborn warrior. I, Star Colonel Raven Clearwater, cast my vote for Khan Sullivan Koga and saKhan Pazi Tchernovkov.â€™

â€˜The need for new blood has never been more apparent. Sullivan Koga and Elam Tchernovkov are the youngest and most vibrant Bloodnamed Warriors we have to choose. I, Star Colonel Star Colonel Pillan Levine, support their candidacy above all others.â€™
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Bradshaw on March 15, 2018, 09:57:11 AM: I voted and commented on the other forum but this time I'll try and speak as a character.

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Honorable warriors we sit here to vote for the future of our Clan. We are at a crossroads in these turbulent times, yet look at what we have here as choices to lead us to our destined glory. We have aged warriors well past their primes relegated to our garrison units, we have warriors at the beck and call of our scientist caste promoting newer and shinier toys for us to trounce our enemies with. But look at Tukyyaid and the surrats of the Inner Sphere do they have better technology then usâ€¦.Nay say I, and yet they are able to stand toe to toe with some of our best warriors. So I ask you what is the difference between a good warrior and a great warrior and I say that is the heart of the warrior. A true warrior will win against all odds if he has the true spirit of a warrior. And with that being said I place my vote for the position of Khan on Tomas McGibbon whose heart is pure and untainted by the politics that has infected our clans in recent years and is a model for our young sibkos to model themselves after. As for saKhan I nominated Gregor Nash while nearing the end of his prime as a warrior his spirit is that of the Great Coyote and whose vision may lead us to our rightful place as the leader of the Clans.
Star Captain Yelis Clearwater
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 16, 2018, 08:57:21 AM: Very nice Bradshaw I will add your in character comments to the growing list.

It is still all Tomas McKibben for Khan with only Sullivan Koga within any kind of distance to catch up at least IMO.

We are still tied when it comes to sakhan with Gregor Nash and Elam Tchernovkov both carrying eight votes. Pazi Tchernovokov is close though with five so it is anyone's game.

Don't forget about the Reactionaries either - they are both way behind but on the board.

Two more days to vote folks! Remember winner gets the biggest Mech in the Trial to come. ;)
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 16, 2018, 05:33:11 PM: Got some more canon character endorsements of the candidates to spur the debate. Please join in and vote!

â€˜I, Galaxy Commander Lafferty Tlavnic, say the only true Coyote choice for Khans lies with the Reactionaries. ProtÃ©gÃ©s of failed Khans past, a Wolf who claims to know our Clanâ€™s spirit, and puppets of the Scientist Caste do not impress me.â€™

â€˜Radical change is not what our Clan requires at this moment. We must return to our roots in order to enhance our strength. That is why I, Galaxy Commander Natron Kozyrev, pledge to support the Spiritualist candidates for high office.â€™

â€˜In the wake of the Revival Trials I, Star Colonel Sancia Kufahl, worked closely with Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov. Witnessing their combat prowess and sheer determination has made a life-long supporter out of me.â€™

â€˜The Technologists offer the Coyotes the most equitable way forward. Both Vidya Levien and Elam Tchernovkov possess clear analytical minds were science not politics dominates reasoning. I, Star Captain Armin Tamzarian, opt for them over any other candidate today.â€™
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 17, 2018, 09:09:06 PM: During my final eight in character endorsements I discovered an error with Tomas McKibben. According to canon Anna Skyes is the commander of Beta Galaxy at this time so I simply moved him to Epsilon which I do not have an existing officer for. My bad!

Here are four more in character endorsements and I hope to complete the final four before tomorrows end of voting.

â€˜Hear me trothkin! In all my time the choice has never been clearer. We need to embrace the Spiritualist wisdom if we are to thrive as a Clan. As Beta Galaxy Commander, I, Anna Skyes urge you all to support Tomas McKibben and Gregor Nash for the leadership of the Coyotes.â€™

â€˜You all know that I, Brenda Kufahl, have recently assumed command of Zeta Galaxy. I have spent most of my career in this contingent and no warrior cares more about their unit then myself. While it is upsetting to think about striking commands from our proud Touman such reforms maybe necessary. Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov understand this is unpopular but are ready to do this for the good of the Clan. That is why I support them for the Khanships of the Clan.â€™

â€˜I, Qitarah Kufahl, was once a ristar whose reversals against the Snow Raven Clan cost me my front-line command. Vidya Levien and Elam Tchernovkov have also suffered but refused to give up earning my admiration. I hope to emulate their turn arounds one day myself and would very much like to see my Clan do the same.â€™

â€˜While many of you scorn my name I, Jaquice Koga have also endured much like Brooke Steele and Mason Jerricho. Despite being shoved into second line service we will not go quietly into the night as Sullivan Koga would like. It is the Reactionaries we should all endorse. They will put an end to the petty politics and backroom sponsorships which have injured our Clan sidelining its best warriors.â€™
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 17, 2018, 10:28:50 PM: Well this is the last of the canon character endorsements of which I have written eighteen total. These will be weighed in with the vote to help determine the winner. Still a few more hours to vote and endorse. Get them in before morning and the close of the poll!

â€˜I, Galaxy Commander Leo Koga have had the pleasure of serving alongside of Sullivan Koga and am pleased to count her among my closest friends. She and Pazi Tchernovkov are first rate warriors and leaders who I would gladly serve as my Khans. I pledge Xi Galaxy to their command.â€™

â€˜While the Successors have been derided by many of you for their sponsorship by our former Khan I would like to point out that most you lack their courage. It is easy to criticize from the shadows and difficult face the light of command. Many difficult decisions lay ahead and I, Star Colonel Alexis Tchernovkov know that Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov will do their best for our Clan even if it means walking the most difficult path.â€™

â€˜The Technologists concern me with their radical stances that could lead us all to our downfall. I, Star Colonel Noemi McKibben prefer the Spiritualist approach which will return the Coyotes to the right path. Vote as I do for Tomas McKibben and Gregor Nash.â€™

â€˜I, Star Captain Hector McKibben vote for my kin Tomas McKibben and his second Gregor Nash as the new leaders of our Clan. Their spiritual beliefs will do much to restore the Coyotes to greatness.â€™
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Post by: Abele on March 18, 2018, 08:01:31 AM: I, Nova Captain Jettero Heller, cast my vote Tomas McKibben for the Khanship of our Clan and for Pazi Tchernovkov as our SaKhan. I have served with both men in my time as a Warrior of our Clan. I have great respect for each of them even though we do not share the same views.

Note: I posted my votes ages ago, but I chose now to make an IC post.
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Post by: Takiro on March 18, 2018, 08:08:12 AM: Very good Abele, only about an hour to go for voting.
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Post by: Takiro on March 18, 2018, 02:21:05 PM: I know Ice had mentioned putting another in-character support to this thread which I will very appreciatively add to the story but it will come too late to factor into these results.

Results

Well folks we have come to the end of our second Khan election for my unfolding alternate universe and before I get to the results Iâ€™d like to thank everyone who took part. These forum events combined with a little in-home gaming are a lot of fun for me and my friends (Matt, Jeremy, Gus, and Steve). Really looking forward to playing out this scenario next weekend and finishing the project with a grand write up everyone can enjoy. Still we couldnâ€™t have done it without everyone participating on the forums with their review of the info, voting for their favorite candidates, and most awesomely in character endorsements. I really love it when folks join in the debate and try to convince others to vote for their candidate. Your participation was the best birthday gift I could have received this week so I would like to thank you all once again.

Now to the vote and its totals which could be controversial so I want to explain them to you. First off on CBT there was an over vote for Khan as somebody used their two votes to support a single candidate for kaKhan rather than splitting their votes between both offices. Second issue, there were seven total under votes for saKhan (2 on OBT and 5 on CBT) meaning several folks did not make a selection for this junior leadership position when they could have. These votes were combined with Steveâ€™s (who is not a member of either forum) and his vote was registered in the home category. These votes coming from CBT, OBT, and Home were added together producing the following totals.

Candidate      CBT Votes   OBT Votes   Home Votes      Vote Total
   Khan (36)
Sullivan Koga      6      4      1         11 (31%)
Brooke Steele       2      1      0         3 (8%)
Tomas McKibben   12      6      0          18 (50%)
Vidya Levien       3      1      0         4 (11%)
saKhan (28)
Pazi Tchernovkov   3      4      0          7 (25%)
Mason Jerricho   1      0      0          1 (3.5%)
Gregor Nash      5      3      0         8 (28.5%)
Elam Tchernovkov   8      3      1         12 (43%)

Throughout the debate here I was considering adding into the vote total the In-Character Support and Canon Endorsements for two reasons. One, to reward those who went the extra mile who got into character and wrote a blurb which will be used in the overall story. Two, to balance our voting results with Canon Character Endorsements which could check alternate results. The voting results were a little extreme (winners running away from the pack and losers getting so little support that any challenge would be prohibitive) in my estimation so I added both producing the following Totals.

Candidate      Vote Totals   In-Character Support   Canon Endorse   Overall Total
   Khan (60)
Sullivan Koga      11      0         7         18 (30%)
Brooke Steele      3      1         3         7 (11.7%)
Tomas McKibben   18      3         5         26 (43.3%)
Vidya Levien      4      2         3         9 (15%)
saKhan (52)
Pazi Tchernovkov   7      1         6         14 (26.9%)
Mason Jerricho   1      0         3         4 (7.7%)
Gregor Nash      8      1         5         14 (26.9%)
Elam Tchernovkov   12      4         4         20 (38.5%)

The biggest winners from this combination were the lowest finishers and this math did not affect the order. This made the final results closer and next weekâ€™s combat a little more competitive which is desirable.

Comparisons

This outcome is far different from our first simulation which had the Successors (Sullivan Koga and Pazi Tchernovkov) come out on top. They had their choice of OmniMechs which were a Dire Wolf and Gargoyle respectively that in large part enabled them to come out on top the first time around. This was directly in line with the canon outcome. In this alternate revote the Successors fell to second place and could still at least in my opinion win next Sundays combat trials to come out on top.

The greatest disparity between the first simulation and this alternate revote was the low totals received by the Reactionaries. Initially Brooke Steele and Mason Jerricho received a Highlander IIC and Guillotine IIC for use in the combat trials that were the second biggest. However, facing off against their larger Successor opponents made them both one of the first casualties in that combat simulation. I do have to say that their last place finishes this time around does make sense upon reflection as both candidates were second-line commanders and had views that were in large part out of order with Coyote thinking. My error I guess overrating their support base first time around but it does lead to an interesting question for me â€“ if they elect to take second line Mechs into the combat trial again should they be larger due to their inferior nature then their vote totals indicate?

The biggest overall improvement with this vote goes to the Spiritualists whose message seemed to resonant with voters the most. While a few folks voiced support for Loremaster Gregor Nash to be the candidate for Khan and Tomas the candidate for saKhan the results would indicate differently. It was Tomas McKibben that smashed the opposition for the Khanship of the Clan which to me was somewhat surprising. I expected Koga to emerge victorious and if indeed Nash were the candidate things may have been different or closer. Regardless it was an impressive win for Tomas McKibben who goes onto defend his right by election to become the next Coyote Khan. First time around McKibben in a Timber Wolf lost to Koga in a Dire Wolf while Nash in a Mad Dog was beaten by Pazi in a Gargoyle. The shoe seems to be on the other foot next week.

Differences from the first simulation to this alternate revote event were stark for the Technologists this time around. Elam had been the biggest underdog of the first trial in his Great Coyotl indicating a last place vote total. I now wonder if he had a better chance at the top of the ticket vote wise but Koga was just to good combat wise to be defeated last time around so the decision was made to alter his spot to second billing. This paid off vote wise with a win for the Technologists and gives them a great chance to hold one of the leadership spots for the Clan going forward. Vidya Levien (aka Darth Coyote) was a big change to being elevated to the top of the ticket instead of having a Stormcrow which got lit up in the saKhan match first time around by Gregor Nash in his Mad Dog. Her third-place finish for Khan is certainly interesting. Expect to see Level Three Tech (XXL Engine, Supercharger, Streak LRMs and ER Pulses) to be used by their candidates this time around.

Combat Trials

Tomas McKibben as the first-place finisher for Khan will get the Dire Wolf (100 tons) this time around but the configuration will be up to the player character likely Bradshaw. According to my math this means that Sullivan Koga the second-place finisher is entitled to a 70-ton Mech for the combat trial. The third-place finisher, Vidya Levien, would be allowed a 35-ton Mech for the trial and lastly Brooke Steele would be allowed a 25-ton Mech for combat. Please check my math folks. What are your thoughts on Steele taking a heavier second line Mech into combat and presumably the Level 3 Adder configuration Levien will be using?

Elam Tchernovkov as the first-place finisher for saKhan will get the Gargoyle (80 tons) this time around and I have a little story to go with this. It will undoubtedly feature some of the Great Coyotl which uses a 400XXL Engine and a Supercharger but what else I will have to see. I could in theory allow Elam a Dire Wolf (100 tons) as well but think I will stick to the 80-ton ceiling for saKhan. Perhaps I will include both results and think about it. Since both Pazi and Nash finished with a tie they could take a 55-ton Mech into combat versus the Gargoyle or a 70-ton Mech against the Dire Wolf depending on what is chosen for Elam. Lastly and quite laughably Mason Jerricho would be eligible for an Elemental Suit (5 tons) against the Gargoyle or more reasonably a 20-ton Mech against the Dire Wolf. Again, this could increase depending on what you think of him using a second-line machine in this trial.

What do you think next Sundayâ€™s combat should look like?
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 18, 2018, 03:34:01 PM: Since I am too late, I won't write it down.

As for your maths, they are correct.
However I don't know how you round the numbers (up or down) as it might change the 'Mechs for Brooke Steele.

You could also give the "losers" heavier 'Mechs but desactivating some weapons.
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Post by: Takiro on March 18, 2018, 05:44:29 PM: Sorry Ice but thank you for you contribution!

Brooke Steele worked out to be 27 tons exactly so I rounded down. I suppose a case could be made for a 30 ton front line Mech or heavier second line Mech. I suppose we could factor BV into this. Say a second line Mech which matches the Mist Lynx or Kit Fox BV for example I would consider.

I usually don't like to go heavier minus weaponry tonnage but I suppose it is an option.
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Post by: Takiro on March 23, 2018, 04:03:01 PM: Hmm, math was never my specialty so i asked Bradshaw to check my equations again. He came back with some very different answers but i gotta say it looks better to me.

To clarify the first Tons column for Khan has McKibben the winner of the vote selecting the Dire Wolf (the biggest possible Mech) while the second column has him select a Timber Wolf (his preferred ride). The others should now be arrayed to challenge in Mechs comparable to their percentage of the vote earned.

Likewise there are two choices for Elam as well both capable of utilizing his high tech equipment an 80 ton Gargoyle or a 100 ton Dire Wolf.

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Khan Vote Total % Tons Tons Sullivan Koga 18 30% 85 65 Brooke Steele 7 12% 70 50 Tomas McKibben 26 43% 100 75 Vidya Levien 9 15% 75 55 60 saKhan Pazi Tchernovkov 14 27% 70 90 Mason Jerricho 4 8% 55 70 Gregor Nash 14 27% 70 90 Elam Tchernovkov 20 38% 80 100 52
So does that look right to everyone?
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Post by: Ice Hellion on March 23, 2018, 04:53:24 PM: This time, I don't get them.
How can you have 30% of the votes and a 'Mech at 85 tons while someone with 15% of them has a 'Mech weighing 75 tons?
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Post by: Takiro on March 24, 2018, 10:34:11 PM: Though I loathe to show my work especially when it comes to math my original calculations I believe were flawed because there was such a dramatic difference between the opponents. Here is the way I originally came up with my numbers.

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Winnerâ€™s Percentage Winnerâ€™s Mass ------------------- x ------------------- Challengerâ€™s Percentage Challengerâ€™s Mass (?)
This simple inequality allowed me to determine the unknown (challenger's mass) by cross multiplying the equation then dividing the results.

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43 (McKibben percentage) 100 (Dire Wolf tonnage) ------------------- x ------------------- 30 or 15 or 12 (challenger %) X (unknown tonnage)
This gave me these results -
Sullivan Koga = 70 tons
Vidya Levien = 35 tons
Brooke Steele = 30 tons

Bradshaw did the math a bit differently which makes it more competitive.

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I don't know how you did the math for the tonnages, I did it definitely differently.

My calculation was winner chose their Mech e.g. Elam picked Gargoyle(80) so opponents mechs was then differential in percentage of vote (Nash was 14% less) x tonnage of chosen mech (80 - 11.2 tons rounded to closest mech weight)

Now after a comprehensive review today I don't think this adds up causing me to fallback to option number 1.

However there is still the very real question of using second line equipment in the trial - would that boost your tonnage? Such as for Steele in the above example which comes out to a 30 ton frontline Mech (Uller) but if she elects to use a second line Mech could it be larger?? If so how much??
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on March 25, 2018, 08:56:01 AM: Okay folks after running the numbers yesterday with your assistance I have chosen the winners Mechs for the Trial. Tomas McKibben choice was his favored ride the Timber Wolf while Elam Tchernovkov is going to go with a Level Three Dire Wolf which retains his Great Coyote story line. Elam will be able to draw from his modified Coyotl (the Great Coyotl) to help equip his new 100-ton ride here.

We have a week to modify and customize these machines so nothing too outrageous. You have to justify your alterations preferably with some fluff and a little rule citation. Remember the era is 3052 just after the Truce of Tukayyid. The Technologists may use Clan Level 3 in their designs while Brooke Steele is restricted the most due to a low vote total to a 20 ton non XL Engine BattleMech in second line service.

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Khan Tomas McKibben (75) 75 tons â€“ Timber Wolf Sullivan Koga (52.3) 50 tons â€“ Nova Vidya Levien (26) 25 tons â€“ Mist Lynx Brooke Steele (9) 20 tons (second line, no XL engine) â€“ Howler (Baboon) or Snow Fox saKhan Elam Tchernovkov (100) 100 tons - Great Coyote (Dire Wolf X) Pazi Tchernovkov (71) 70 tons â€“ Summoner (drop jump jets for armor and pod space) Gregor Nash (71) 70 tons â€“ Summoner (drop jump jets for armor and pod space) Mason Jerricho (21) 20 tons â€“ Fire Moth
Love to see your suggestions and input!
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on March 25, 2018, 02:00:45 PM: Don't forget Star League 'Mechs.
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Post by: Ice Hellion on April 10, 2018, 03:48:31 PM: Any news?
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on April 10, 2018, 04:35:16 PM: Yes sir, here is your brief!

We designed all eight Mechs participating in the contest over on the CBT forums which will hopefully take place on April 21st.

Everything is printed out and ready to go. I am anxiously awaiting the event. Should be fun!
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on April 11, 2018, 04:14:30 PM: Quote from: Takiro on April 10, 2018, 04:35:16 PM
Yes sir, here is your brief!

We designed all eight Mechs participating in the contest over on the CBT forums which will hopefully take place on April 21st.

Everything is printed out and ready to go. I am anxiously awaiting the event. Should be fun!

May the best Warrior win!
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on April 11, 2018, 10:10:26 PM: Thanks Ice, I will post the details here. Would you guys like me to post the Mechs over here as well??
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on October 15, 2018, 04:21:28 PM: Well it has been a while but this weekend at noon Saturday will finally resolve the question of who exactly is the next Coyote Khan. Bradshaw, Calderon, and myself will kick off the tabletop BattleTech season with this all important Trial. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on October 20, 2018, 11:55:49 PM: Okay folks the trial has been concluded. Special thanks to everyone involved today in the opening of our gaming season. This was a fast mover and I hope everyone enjoys the summary. Bradshaw had a major hand in writing the blow by blow. Tomorrow I hope to have something on reorganization of the Coyotes by the end of the 3052. Please comment as you see fit!

SELECTION
Character Pick Order - Takiro (1, 8 ) - Bradshaw (2, 7) - Gus (3, 6) - Calderon (4,5)
1.   Elam Tchernovkov â€“ saKhan
2.   Tomas McKibben â€“ Khan
3.   Sullivan Koga â€“ Khan
4.   Vidya Levien â€“Khan
5.   Gregor Nash â€“ saKhan
6.   Pazi Tchernovkov â€“ saKhan
7.   Mason Jerricho â€“ saKhan
8.   Brooke Steele - Khan

THE BATTLE
   Quick and bloody were the best ways to describe the battle for Coyote Khanships in 3052. These trials occurred on the barren plains of Tamaron whose vast arid reaches offered ample room for battle. The morning temperature approached fifteen degrees celsius on an otherwise clear day with few clouds in the sky. As one would expect with this conservative Clan there were no breaches in battlefield etiquette during combat. The rest of the Bloodnamed of the Clan gathered around the designated combat zone as the contestants signaled their readiness.

   Mason Jerricho was the fastest to action rapidly moving along the southern edge towards Pazi Tchernovkov targeting his Summonerâ€™s upper body with his lasers. On the Khan side of the field Sullivan Koga moved toward the center of the combat zone and declared a duel with Tomas McKibben striking him with one of her two ER PPCs in the right shoulder. Brooke Steele turned to face Vidya Levien starting what would be the engagements longest running combat. Engaging initially with a targeted strike from her ER Large Laser. Pazi Tchernovkov returned fire on Mason Jerricho tearing through the thin armor of the Fire Moth with his battery of Large Lasers annihilating the right and center torso armor. No doubt he expected to sit and wait for the winner of the Elam and Gregor battle after so swiftly disabling the smallest â€˜Mech in the saKhan battle with a single volley. Tomas who had also attempted to gain control of the center of the field swiveled to return the ER PPC volley of Kogaâ€™s, proving the better of the two with a dual strike dead center on the Nova causing a heat spike with a critical hit on its engine. In the meantime, Elam ran forward in his massive Dire Wolf returning with a full volley of his long-range weaponry. Striking randomly with his first Gauss it was the deadly hit from his ER PPC that struck true decapitating the aged Loremaster of the Coyote Clan killing him instantly. Galaxy Commander Levien turned and charged at Brooke Steele returning fire with her own ER Large Laser in exchange for the first strike made by the ancient Locust.

   Tomas continued to fire upon his target, engaging his full arsenal in an Alpha Strike hoping to eliminate Sullivan Koga as fast as possible. One of his PPCs and his Streak SRM-4s struck dead center upon his opponentâ€™s Nova eliminating her from the contest as his heat spiked slightly into the red. Wasting no time Elam was already moving onto his next target turned and sprinted towards his last roadblock to becoming saKhan. The rush of victory and the sudden surge of endraline caused him to rush his shots missing with his twin Gausses, ER PPC, and ER Large Laser. Vidya still engaged with Brooke this time tried to seize the initiative and position herself in an advantageous position as she spiked her heat gauges unleashing a dual blast of ER Large Lasers to strip away additional armor and the SRM-2 from the vintage Star League era Locust of Steele. Brooke began to flank Vidya but was unable to fully do so and faulty mounting of her ER Medium Laser caused her to only successfully strike with her single ER Large once again. Pazi Tchernovkov returned fire upon his larger opponent as the former saKhan was able to hit but thanks to the new Ferro-Fibrous armor of the Great Coyote it amounted to just a drop in the bucket as the fearsome war machine was able to shrug off this damage.

   Brooke attempting to regroup and utilize the mobility of the Locust to its fullest backed away from her opponent for the moment. Steeleâ€™s fears proved true as it confirmed that her ER Medium Laser was misaligned and she was again only able to strike her opponent with her ER Large. With two of the contestants for the saKhanship already dead or mechless Elam calmed his nerves and calmly advanced upon Pazi. Unleashing the full might of his improved Dire Wolf he struck fiercely into the internals of the Warlock configured Summoner. Unable to maintain control of his â€˜Mech Pazi crashed to the ground stunning the warrior for a brief moment. Vidya charged the backward evading Steele striking with a single ER Large as she attempted to cool the â€˜Mech to more reasonable operating temperatures. Pazi shook off the daze from his tumble to the ground and raised his OmniMechâ€™s arms peppering the Elamâ€™s Assault â€˜Mech but was unable to penetrate the thick armor of the upgraded design. Tomas now with no available targets slowly turned his â€˜Mech towards the dueling Galaxy Commanders as he returned his Timber Wolfâ€™s heat gauges into the green zone.

   Now with his target on the ground Elam took a deep breath as he ensured his aim on the downed Summoner at his feet. Pazi reached his feet quickly and charged forward hoping to throw off his aim. Exchanging full blows of their weaponry Elam was able to strip away nearly the remaining armor of his foe but not without loss to himself. Pazi utilized the precision of his Targeting Computer to target the lower half of the Dire Wolf hoping to remove its mobility. While not able to remove a leg Pazi was able to hit internally damaging both the hip and upper leg actuators of the Great Coyoteâ€™s left leg. Brook attempted to take advantage of the fierceness of Vidyaâ€™s charge sprinting forward to gain a superior position. For a split second the rear of her opponent was visible but she was unable to take advantage of this as Vidya quickly maneuvered into close range leading to another exchange of fire between the two. Tomas slowly advanced locking his weapons for a split second upon Vidyaâ€™s Adder as he believed the duel was in its final moments and wished to strike quickly against his final opponent.

   With his mobility at a minimum with his leg severely damaged Elam turned to face his opponent who quickly took advantage of the Dire Wolfâ€™s mangled limb. Pazi quickly maneuvered to the rear of the fearsome Assault OmniMech believing his position would safeguard him from his opponentâ€™s massive arsenal. The former saKhan was dismayed to see Elam flip his arms over destroying the Summonerâ€™s right torso and removing half of Paziâ€™s weaponry. While the Warlock claimed an additional two tons of armor from the Great Coyote it was still not enough to put the larger opponent away. The duel continued between Vidya and Brooke as they exchanged laser fire each realizing that the chance of becoming Khan was growing slimmer and slimmer as the fight dragged on. Tomas moved up for the final time chomping at the bit to complete on his journey to become Khan of the Coyotes.

   At long last Vidya was finally able to dispatch Brooke with a fierce laser blast which annihilated much of the upper half of the ancient Locust she piloted. Steele did not survive the resulting fireball which engulfed all but the legs of the old Star League BattleMech. Meanwhile Pazi took careful aim hoping to finish off the massive Dire Wolf as Elam swiftly moved to face his opponent bringing his full arsenal to bare. The Warlock removed the Great Coyoteâ€™s right leg sending Elam crashing to backwards with only the his badly damaged left leg remaining operational. Realizing he would be unable to move Elam unleashed a final savage salvo which among other things struck the head Paziâ€™s Warlock with a Gauss slug killing him. The instant Levienâ€™s opponent was destroyed McKibben pounced launching a devastating barrage that destroyed her experimental Adder ending the contest a mere six moments after it began.

   Only two contestants (Tomas McKibben and Mason Jerricho) survived the brutal fighting unharmed. Three were wounded in action (Elam Tchernovkov, Sullivan Koga, Vidya Levien) although their injuries were not considered bad. Each should be able to return to duty after a week or two of limited activity. The greatest price was paid by the three Coyote warriors (Gregor Nash, Pazi Tchernovkov, Brooke Steele) who were killed during this trial for the Clanâ€™s leadership. The death of the Loremaster herein also helped usher in a new era for the Coyotes as new Khan Tomas McKibben and saKhan Elam Tchernovkov quickly backed Sullivan Koga as the heir apparent there. Her ascension approved by the Clan Council shortly afterwards gave each of the three major factions a share in the direction of things and provided a unified front in the necessary reforms going forward. Furthermore, the Khans created a new position charged with the command of all second line forces in order to better defend the Clanâ€™s holdings. For this post named Guardmaster they tapped Mason Jerricho who represents the last major voice in the Clan. His support insured unity going forward in spite of some tensions between the Spiritualists and Technologists.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 01:34:24 AM: Quote from: Takiro on October 20, 2018, 11:55:49 PM
Furthermore, the Khans created a new position charged with the command of all second line forces in order to better defend the Clanâ€™s holdings. For this post named Guardmaster they tapped Mason Jerricho who represents the last major voice in the Clan. His support insured unity going forward in spite of some tensions between the Spiritualists and Technologists.

My candidate was killed? She had potential :'(

Clever political move to create the Guardmaster position and to give it to another voice.
If you agree, I will try to propose you a new name as Guardmaster seems not martial enough for the Clans.
For my information, will this post have control over the Watch?
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Abele on October 21, 2018, 03:04:55 AM: My vote for Khan won and my SaKhan died in battle. That is all good.
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Post by: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 08:32:02 AM: Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 01:34:24 AM
My candidate was killed? She had potential :'(

I'm sorry Ice, the deaths of Gregor Nash, Pazi Tchernovkov, and Brooke Steele were all gamed out. The death of Gregor Nash was the most unfortunate in my opinion as I would have liked to see what he would have done as Loremaster for a longer term. Bradshaw was insisting since saKhan Elam Tchernovkov killed him that tensions between the Technologists and the Spiritualists would be affected but I really doubt that. Even if Khan Tomas McKibben was his dearest mentor his death came in combat with no dishonor. Simply a random shot to the head from an ER PPC. It would seem unClanlike to me if Tomas carried a grudge but I suppose it is possible.

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 01:34:24 AM
Clever political move to create the Guardmaster position and to give it to another voice.
If you agree, I will try to propose you a new name as Guardmaster seems not martial enough for the Clans.
For my information, will this post have control over the Watch?

You certainly may Ice, I always am on the lookout for ideas better than mine and if you have a better sounding name please don't keep it to your self.

This will be the first of the Circle of Masters which will spread throughout the Clans. To explain, right now certain Clans like Star Adder (Adjutant) and Jade Falcon (Overseer) in particular have high positions resembling military staff but there is no uniformity or definition.

Guardmaster â€“ Originally thought to be a purely symbolic or derisive title given by Khan Tomas McKibben to then-Galaxy Commander Mason Jerricho following their battle for Khanship of the Clan in June 3052. Placing his defeated rival from the Reactionary faction in charge of all second line forces had several dramatic effects which are still reverberating throughout the Clans. This â€˜high positionâ€™ while a â€˜promotionâ€™ for Jerricho took his faction out of active service and placed him in charge of the inglorious rear line defense. Augmented now with freeborn warriors these aging veterans must garrison holdings won by others, so while these units are vital to the Clan it is not a desirable posting. Frequently without transportation they are unable to win glory by taking the offensive rather they must wait for combat from others who often look to battle more prestigious foes. Rather than commiting bondsref Jerricho accepted the position and began to reorganize his Clanâ€™s provisional garrison galaxies. It became the third Mastery of the Clans touching off the growth of these positions throughout Kerensky's descendants eventually formalizing staff ranks.

To answer your question Ice this would not include the Watch which would remain in most Clans under the Loremaster which is the first most senior Mastery of the Clans. Of course there is also the Oathmaster created by Nova Cat which is the second and Guardmaster the third. Shortly after this Khan Lynn McKenna of the Snow Raven Clan will create the forth position called 'Fleetmaster' to denote her cheif of naval operations which they have unquestioned 'Mastery' over. We can also have a fun argument that this position existed for years as the Ravens have always called their most senior Star Admiral 'Fleetmaster' anyway but it was never formalized.

Another three positions will follow after the Trial of Restoration in 3053 completing the Circle. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 12:34:48 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 08:32:02 AM
I'm sorry Ice, the deaths of Gregor Nash, Pazi Tchernovkov, and Brooke Steele were all gamed out.

Don't worry. I am sure you had a great time playing this game.

Quote from: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 08:32:02 AM
You certainly may Ice, I always am on the lookout for ideas better than mine and if you have a better sounding name please don't keep it to your self.

Castellan?
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 21, 2018, 01:51:03 PM: Old school name Weard
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Post by: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 02:36:14 PM: Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 12:34:48 PM
Castellan?

While it certainly fits not Clan enough IMO although Castle Brians do have some meaning to them. But even that has translated into Brian Caches dropping the Castle part.

Quote from: Bradshaw on October 21, 2018, 01:51:03 PM
Old school name Weard

Just an old way of saying Ward which does translate nicely thanks to Clan political affilations especially the one which the Coyotes subscribe to aka Wardens. I suppose we could go Wardmaster as an alternative to Guardmaster but it is a ripoff of the Star Wars universe I see.

When I started the expansion of Master titles for the Clan originally I had this one down as Garrisonmaster, so we have improved on it no matter what.

I do like the _____Master theme going forward but a Mongolian theme could work too. Any different Khan titles floating around out there??
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 21, 2018, 03:08:03 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I do like the _____Master theme going forward but a Mongolian theme could work too. Any different Khan titles floating around out there??

Kavhan? An important man in the Bulgarian Khannate and the commander of the army.

While looking for it, I found that Ilkhan was at the same time a provincial Khan and also the name given to the kings of the Khanate in Persia.
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Post by: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 11:35:09 PM: I asked Calderon to look into one of his old AD&D books which had a listing of titles that include Khans which I fuzzily remember. There are already a few the Clans have including ilKhan, kaKhan, sakhan, and ecKhan but there could be more. I know I was calling Smoke Jaguar honorary Khans orKhans for a bit but not sure that is historical or not.
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 22, 2018, 11:13:38 AM: Gur Khan, meaning supreme or universal Khan, was the ruler of the Khitan Kara-Kitai, and has occasionally been used by the Mongols as well

Khagan or Qaghan is a title of imperial rank equal to the status of emperor and someone who rules a khaganate

Ilkhan, both a generic term for a 'provincial Khan' and traditional royal style for one of the four khanates in Genghis's succession, based in Persia. See the main article for more details.

Khan-i-Khanan (Persian: "Lord of Lords") was a title given to the commander-in-chief of the army of the Mughals, an example being Abdul Rahim Khan-I-Khana of the great Mughal emperor, Akbar's (and later his son Jahangir's) army.

Khatun, or Khatan roughly equal to a King's queen in Mongolic and Turkic languages, as by this title a ruling Khan's Queen-consort (wife) is designated with similar respect after their proclamation as Khan and Khatun.

Khanum is another female derivation of Khan

Khanzada a title conferred to princes of the dynasties of certain princely states.

Kanasubigi or Kana subigi, lord of the army

Were the ones I found on Wiki

How about something odd but fitting for them. Dharma no real translation to English but meanings include such things as "law", "order", "duty", "custom".

Dharma signifies behaviours that are considered to be in accord with the order that makes life and universe possible, and includes duties, rights, laws, conduct, virtues and "right way of living".

Could be a position that works in accord with the Lore Master
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 22, 2018, 04:01:58 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 21, 2018, 11:35:09 PM
I asked Calderon to look into one of his old AD&D books which had a listing of titles that include Khans which I fuzzily remember. There are already a few the Clans have including ilKhan, kaKhan, sakhan, and ecKhan but there could be more. I know I was calling Smoke Jaguar honorary Khans orKhans for a bit but not sure that is historical or not.

Funny thing was only thing I found with reference to kaKhan was Scientology lol

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When people do start reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what you investigate is the person who turned in the report. In an ancient army a particularly brave deed was recognized by an award of the title of Kha-Khan. It was not a rank. The person remained what he was, BUT he was entitled to be forgiven the death penalty ten times in case in the future he did anything wrong. That was a Kha-Khan. That's what producing, high-statistic staff members are â€“ Kha-Khans. They can get away with murder without a blink from Ethics.... And Ethics must recognize a Kha-Khan when it sees one â€“ and tear up the bad report chits on the person with a yawn."

http://scientolipedia.org/info/KHA-_KHAN
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Post by: Takiro on October 22, 2018, 04:20:55 PM: Still leaning towards Guardmaster or Wardmaster for this Chief Defender of the Coyotes. I also prefer following the Master template (Loremaster and Oathmaster already established) as opposed to the Khan one.

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Honorific Khans (Grave Covenant, page 260)
Warriors who prove themselves exceptional leaders in battle situations are often called â€œKhanâ€ for the proposes of an operation.

ilKhan - war-leader of the CLans elected from the Grand Council by its members, arbitrates disputes between Clans in times of crisis, governs under the Martial Code as set down by Nicholas Kerensky, can be overruled by the Grand Council
kaKhan - the senior Khan who should be the best warrior but is some times the best politician, typically acts the head of a Clan, overseeing relationships between the castes and other Clans, decides on the exact distribution of tasks, holds a seat on the Grand Council (Kurultai)
sakhan - the junior Khan of a Clan typical serves as the Warlord but exact duties depends upon the senior Khan also has a seat on the Grand Council
ecKhan - the leader of a Cloud Cobra Clan Cloister
ovKhan - a term of respect for someone of higher rank
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 23, 2018, 08:28:51 AM: Quote from: Takiro on October 22, 2018, 04:20:55 PM
Still leaning towards Guardmaster or Wardmaster for this Chief Defender of the Coyotes. I also prefer following the Master template (Loremaster and Oathmaster already established) as opposed to the Khan one.

â€œI am the Keymaster ... Are you the Gatekeeper?â€
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 23, 2018, 09:18:57 AM: Just throwing some out there now.

Clan Blood Spirit --Marshall
Clan Burrock --Foreman
Clan Cloud Cobra --Seraph
Clan Coyote --Armsmaster or Shieldbearer
Clan Diamond Shark --Templar
Clan Fire Mandrill --Bandmaster
Clan Ghost Bear --Denmaster
Clan Goliath Scorpion --Pilgrim
Clan Hell's Horses --Hordemaster
Clan Ice Hellion --Dirigeant
Clan Jade Falcon --Overseer
Clan Nova Cat --Oracle
Clan Smoke Jaguar --Drillmaster
Clan Snow Raven --Fleetmaster
Clan Star Adder --Adjutant
Clan Steel Viper --Taskmaster
Clan Wolf --Packmaster
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 23, 2018, 04:39:14 PM: Quote from: Bradshaw on October 23, 2018, 08:28:51 AM
â€œI am the Keymaster ... Are you the Gatekeeper?â€

8)

Quote from: Bradshaw on October 23, 2018, 09:18:57 AM
Just throwing some out there now.

Or should we find a common name?
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Post by: Takiro on October 23, 2018, 10:08:08 PM: Quote from: Bradshaw on October 23, 2018, 08:28:51 AM
â€œI am the Keymaster ... Are you the Gatekeeper?â€

Oh we have to get these two together. ;D

Well we are going a little far a field here as I was hoping to talk about Coyote going forward. But I present you with the Circle of Masters.

The Circle of Masters is a cabinet of sorts or General Staff for the Clans which was begun by ilKhan Ulric Kerensky in 3053 after the approval of Operation Restoration. Much like the Loremaster of the Clans the individual who serves on the Circle is generally the most senior in that position although the ilKhan may choose any Clan Master if the Grand Council approves.

Loremaster (1st established, highest ranking)
Oathmaster (2nd established, Nova Cat)
Guardmaster (3rd established, Coyote)
Fleetmaster (4th established, Snow Raven)
Zellmaster (5th established, Star Adder)
Armsmaster (6th established, Diamond Shark)
Watchmaster (7th established, Burrock)

Zellmaster â€“ Formalized title created by Khan Cassius Nâ€™Buta and first granted to Duke Topi following the Trial of Restoration. While coined by the Star Adders this position had already existed throughout the Clans for centuries. Previously called Champions (Coyote, Jade Falcon, Steel Viper) or Gunslingers (Wolf) depending on the Clan these warriors were acknowledged as the finest by their respective commanders. Unit commanders above the rank of Star Colonel may typically name an individual who has usually attained a number of victories while lacking any personal reversals. Adherence to zellbrigen is also another important requirement for these masters of the rite of combat. While Cluster and Galaxy Zellmasters are respected none dare challenge the Khanâ€™s choice who is widely regarded as the best warrior of the Clan.
Quality assurance for the sibkos, Chief Instructor, head of Military Education

Armsmaster â€“ Following the trend begun by others Khan Jonathon Clarke of the Diamond Sharks established the position of Armsmaster for his Clan to oversee logistics. This Chief Quartermaster post works closely with the lower castes who supply the warriors.
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 09:08:30 AM: Whats funny is I looked into the word origins of Zellbrigen. In German its almost spelled if split into Wrestling ring or Wrestling Cell to be precise. So ZellMaster would be Master of Cells or more likely a Geneticist or Prison Warden

I'm not a fan of all the Master names. GuardMaster sounds silly if anything it should be Master-at-arms. Same with FleetMaster shouldn't it be Master of the Fleet.

I think you should branch out. Shieldbearer is a nice fit for your Guardmaster position.

I really liked Templar for Diamond Sharks as they were Warrior Merchants who pretty much invented banking.
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 24, 2018, 03:17:17 PM: Quote from: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
I really liked Templar for Diamond Sharks as they were Warrior Merchants who pretty much invented banking.

Warrior Merchants? I didn't read the same history books as you.

Quote from: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
Whats funny is I looked into the word origins of Zellbrigen. In German its almost spelled if split into Wrestling ring or Wrestling Cell to be precise. So ZellMaster would be Master of Cells or more likely a Geneticist or Prison Warden

bringen is in German to bring something and not to fight or wrestling. But I agree with your analysis.

Quote from: Takiro on October 23, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
Loremaster (1st established, highest ranking)
Oathmaster (2nd established, Nova Cat)
Guardmaster (3rd established, Coyote)
Fleetmaster (4th established, Snow Raven)
Zellmaster (5th established, Star Adder)
Armsmaster (6th established, Diamond Shark)
Watchmaster (7th established, Burrock)

I am not sure if a Wolf would not try to bring more civilian castes in his council.
And trying to coordinate all the education/training of the Warriors in the different Clans? This sounds quite difficult as they all have different specifications, tactics...
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Post by: Abele on October 24, 2018, 03:47:34 PM: The Knights Templar were the bankers of the Medieval period hence Bradshaw's alliteration
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 03:49:17 PM: Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 24, 2018, 03:17:17 PM

Warrior Merchants? I didn't read the same history books as you.

Warrior Monk Bankers? Close enough for me to call them Merchants.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-38499883

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 24, 2018, 03:17:17 PM
bringen is in German to bring something and not to fight or wrestling. But I agree with your analysis.

Why I said almost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringen
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 03:52:47 PM: Ice I'm surprised you didn't notice in my list of suggestions the French flair I put on the Ice Hellions suggestion.
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Post by: Takiro on October 24, 2018, 04:36:17 PM: I appreciate the feedback guys. Also, I will share with you some canon references to the Coyotes.

Pack Master - Page 39 FM Warden Clans
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Clan Coyote's own warriors chose Gerek [Tchernovkov] to serve as their Pack Master. a position that soon evolved into the Loremaster post.

Pack Masters â€“ page 46 FM Warden Clans
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Pack Masters â€“ warriors assigned to oversee cadets m the training camps â€“ customarily take their new charges into the wilds of Tamaron for a month at a time.

Chief Pack Master â€“ page 49 FM Warden Clans
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With the instigation of her reforms, Khan Koga opened positions in the Thirty-eighth Assault to the best warriors emerging from the sibkos. Star Colonel Heller. once the Chief Pack Master, ensures their training in the ways of the Coyote and the Warden philosophy continue.

As I said I am opened to changing Guardmaster to most likely Wardmaster.

I really like Fleetmaster actually, one of my favorites.

Zell is actually short for zellbrigen here Bradshaw and it is frequently abbreviated that way. I actually like that title a lot too although I am opened as to each office's responsibilities which probably vary from Clan to Clan. Coordinate may be a poor way to describe this 'Masters' responsibilities as it is more of a quality control agent. There have been incidents where Clans have accused other Clans of misdoings or not living up to standards. This is where the Zellmaster may have to intervene.

As to a civilian having representation on this 'Council' you are in luck Ice as I've already been calling the head of the Free Guilds the Guildmaster.

Actually the head of the Knights Templar was a Grandmaster so.....

The only title I really don't love is Watchmaster (7th established, Burrock) but I won't go with Spymaster.
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Post by: Takiro on October 24, 2018, 06:01:46 PM: Moving on from the still forming Circle of Masters I really want to talk the next six months for Clan Coyote which will make up their section of the new catchup tome bring us to the Trial of Restoration in January 3053.

With our newly united leadership of the Coyotes under Khan Tomas McKibben (Spiritualist), saKhan Elam Tchernovkov (Technolgist), Loremaster Sullivan Koga (Successor), and Wardmaster Mason Jerricho (Reactionary) these months are filled with activity. My early read on these characters is that all four are willing to do what is best for the Clan, of course I'd like to see what you all have to say about that.

The first thing I envision Khan McKibben doing is dispatching Warden Missionaries to certain Clans as described under the Spiritualist description.
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The Spiritualists propose the biggest diplomatic initiative of any faction which would have Warden Missionaries deepen ties to friendly Clans (Wolf, Goliath Scorpion, Snow Raven, Kindraa Payne, and even old enemies like Cloud Cobra), while spreading their message to others (Blood Spirit, Diamond Shark, Ghost Bear, Hellâ€™s Horses, Nova Cat, Steel Viper), and cutting ties with ardent Crusaders (Burrock, most Fire Mandrill Kindraa, Ice Hellion, Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar, Star Adder).
I could also see incorporating Scientific Liaisons as the Technologists suggested in their campaign for office. Speculation on how these endeavors work out is welcomed!

At the same time a new Scientist-General comes to power within the Clan, former saKhan Tain McTighe. Instead of committing bondsref or ritual suicide as I envision former Khan Robin Steel doing (something Khan Hazen did just before the invasion) he opted to retire and join the Scientist Caste. This sort of mirrors Angus Labov from canon Diamond Shark who retired from military service and quickly became the head of that Clan's merchant caste. In much the same way I had thought McTighe could take control of the Scientist Caste and start to reshape it as I wanted. This is different from Elliot McKibben in canon who during the Wars of Reaving went from Scientist to Khan thanks to the Society. And yes this indicates a major change from canon for me as I want the Coyote's to become more of the Scientist Clan like Diamond Shark is the Merchant Clan in this universe then canon's Society.

Reformation (Bare Bones)
This is a big one where the Coyote Touman is completely reorganized over this time. On paper the Coyotes fielded an impressive force of a dozen (12) Galaxies and fifty-two (52) Clusters that could match any of the strongest Clans right up to our Khan Trials. We all know they are undermanned and underequipped (canon numbers indicate 7 Galaxies and 35 Clusters) which indicates 67% or two-thirds were actually combat ready. So first question for you all is how did Khan Robin Steele keep this a secret or conceal this weakness? Binaries instead of Trinaries?? I don't think anyone in the Clan or outside it realizes how bad things really are.

The foundation of the 316th Assault Cluster (Spirit Walkers) is a big change for me from Sullivan Koga's reformation. This is more combat oriented and Clan like IMO. I see this new unit founded on the glorious tradtions of the past beginning Trials of Absorption for Clusters understrength enabling them to continue as part of the 316th. Trials for Keshik mergers into Galaxies would also result in some notable match ups as older Galaxy Commanders have to square off against the saKhan (Beta - Anna Skyes) and Loremaster (Gamma - Vidya Levien). Alpha Commander Pazi Tchernovkov was already killed leaving Khan McKibben to assume command there.

Five frontline Galaxies (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon) remain with four Clusters each one of which is a Reserve Cluster. This alteration from canon will mollify some of the outrage over the reorganization of the Touman. There are OmniMechs in second line galaxies (Zeta would be a good place) the Clan can draw from to strengthen forces here.

The big change to the touman would be the disbandment of two garrison galaxies (Xi and Pi), downgrade of Zeta to Sigma, and the addition of 4 new clusters (316th, a Reserve Line Cluster, and two Solhama Clusters). So 39 Clusters instead of 35. Now where are we getting new personnel and equipment from? Freeborns activated from Police Clusters (Third Line) and Second Trials for Trueborns would present a new pool of talent. Spiritualists and Technologists both called for Freeborns and Second Trials for Trueborns so this is a campaign promise. Equipment would be ancient OmniMechs (Coyotl, Lupus, Woodsman) activated as well as Vehicles for the Solhama Clusters. Thoughts??
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Post by: Bradshaw on October 25, 2018, 09:21:10 AM: Now I think Binaries were the original formation used by Kerensky not Trinaries. It could be a way to maintain their # of Clusters by officially returning to this arrangement.

First things I see Khan and saKhan doing

Tomas
1. Update their Trials of Position
a. Allow Trueborns a second trial for Second-line forces
b. Allow Trials for Freebirths
c. Assign Warriors from Solahma units to train Freebirths for an opportunity to undergo Trials for Warrior Status

2. Call for Warriors to Trial for Missionary positions for selected Clans

Elam
1. With assistance from the Loremaster have the Clan Watch begin to ferret out potential targets for acquisition to bolster the Clans Scientist Caste (Primarily the Ardent Crusader factions)

2. Known Targets have Cluster Commanders begin to Batchall for Trials of Possession

3. Target known caches of Mark I OmniMechs for Trials of Possession
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 25, 2018, 02:49:35 PM: Quote from: Bradshaw on October 24, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
Ice I'm surprised you didn't notice in my list of suggestions the French flair I put on the Ice Hellions suggestion.

I missed it :(
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 25, 2018, 02:55:28 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 24, 2018, 06:01:46 PM
Thoughts??

How many holdings do they have to defend?
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Post by: Takiro on October 25, 2018, 05:08:03 PM: Quote from: Bradshaw on October 25, 2018, 09:21:10 AM
2. Call for Warriors to Trial for Missionary positions for selected Clans

That just sounds wrong Bradshaw! Keep it clean. ;D

Although earning such a title [Coyote ilChi] though combat an interesting take. I would expect Khan McKibben to just appoint someone.

Quote from: Bradshaw on October 25, 2018, 09:21:10 AM
Elam
1. With assistance from the Loremaster have the Clan Watch begin to ferret out potential targets for acquisition to bolster the Clans Scientist Caste (Primarily the Ardent Crusader factions)

2. Known Targets have Cluster Commanders begin to Batchall for Trials of Possession

3. Target known caches of Mark I OmniMechs for Trials of Possession

Please remember that Elam is the saKhan who generally serves as the Clan's chief warlord. He can't make strategic decisions without at least consulting and more than likely getting the approval for such actions. What I generally did is see how by looking at their agendas the Technologists could either agree wholeheartedly or tack on their agenda where possible like the Warden Emissaries. The saKhan I figured talked to the Khan and said 'yeah your idea is real good yo but this will make it mad good' (sorry just watched Ant-Man). This is how Warden Emissaries were accompanied by Scientific Liaisons who can maybe negotiate for some of what you suggest without combat. Before I continue let me reask my questions from last night;

1. Do you see the four new Coyote leaders working together for the benefit of the Clan?
2. How do the Warden Missions to other Clans go?
3. Everyone cool with the former saKhan taking over the Scientist Caste?
4. How did former Khan Robin Steele keep Coyote's 2/3 touman a secret or conceal this weakness?
5. Does the formation of the 316th Assault Cluster (Spirit Walkers), Trials of Absorption/Reaving for understrength Clusters, the Keshik mergers into three frontline Galaxies, Zeta Galaxy downgrade back to Sigma, the disbandment of only two second line galaxies make for a better Reformation with less resistance and more combat?
6. Is 39 Clusters (instead of 35 from canon) realistic with freeborn mobilization in second line units, second trials for trueborns, the activation of old OmniMechs and vehicles all now flowing into the Coyote touman especially with all this internal combat?

Details in link to follow;

https://www.ourbattletech.com/forum/index.php?topic=3520.msg46429#msg46429

Still I like where you are going with Coyote's Scienctific Raids which will bring me to the Hellfury Chalcas Incident and how it will play out during the Quicksilver Trials. With all this domestic reorganization taking place over the last six months of 3052 I don't believe the Coyotes can realistically take to the offense.

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 25, 2018, 02:55:28 PM
How many holdings do they have to defend?

Coyote Possessions 3052
Homeworlds: 6 â€“ Tamaron [capital] (100%), Babylon (27%), Delios (36%), Foster (40%), Londerholm (24%), New Kent (19%)
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Post by: Takiro on October 26, 2018, 11:30:37 PM: Any thoughts my friends on the fate of Yotes in 3052??
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM: Quote from: Takiro on October 25, 2018, 05:08:03 PM
1. Do you see the four new Coyote leaders working together for the benefit of the Clan?
2. How do the Warden Missions to other Clans go?
3. Everyone cool with the former saKhan taking over the Scientist Caste?
4. How did former Khan Robin Steele keep Coyote's 2/3 touman a secret or conceal this weakness?
5. Does the formation of the 316th Assault Cluster (Spirit Walkers), Trials of Absorption/Reaving for understrength Clusters, the Keshik mergers into three frontline Galaxies, Zeta Galaxy downgrade back to Sigma, the disbandment of only two second line galaxies make for a better Reformation with less resistance and more combat?
6. Is 39 Clusters (instead of 35 from canon) realistic with freeborn mobilization in second line units, second trials for trueborns, the activation of old OmniMechs and vehicles all now flowing into the Coyote touman especially with all this internal combat?

1. I can see it if the Khan and saKhan are keeping everyone in line. Some might try to take a little more power as their positions are not bound in tradition. A few Trials should keep everyone in check.
2. It depends on the different Clans. In your Universe, there is a little more cooperation among them but the reasons behind the Warden Missions might be a bit suspicious.
3. Why not? But what about the former one? This is not really the Clan Way.
4. I think the Blood Spirit did something like that in the past. Since the Clans are not good at gathering intelligence, you could imagine rotating units from one holding to another, changing their name or their Galaxy...
5 and 6. rather than increase the number of Clusters, I would try to increase their size and to homogenise them. Perhaps go to 32 Clusters for "normal" units (ie Front Line or Garrison ones) with 4 Clusters per Galaxy. You can have 5 Front Line and 3 Second Line Galaxies. This would allow you to create a training Galaxy with first 3 under-strength Clusters.
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Post by: Takiro on October 27, 2018, 11:58:21 AM: Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
2. It depends on the different Clans. In your Universe, there is a little more cooperation among them but the reasons behind the Warden Missions might be a bit suspicious.

The Warden Missions are quite simply designed to promote and strengthen that political philosophy which after Tukayyid is still at a low point so to speak. Khan McKibben becomes more and more interesting to me as a lone advocate trying to halt the Crusade once and for all - I think that the Spiritualist goal. Hardcore Wardens who stand opposed to any further invasion of the InnerSphere and a resumption of the Clans true mission to defend the old Star League from 'threats'. Old Warden talking points left this 'force' vague but could his new true Warden faction start naming enemies. Crusaders, Word of Blake, or any faction that they know admittedly have more knowledge of that needs stomping.

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
3. Why not? But what about the former one? This is not really the Clan Way.

The Coyotes are a far more traditional Clan than most with warriors meeting a violent end and therefore not retiring to a lesser caste. Some more liberal Clans like Diamond Shark you have the Angus Labov example who leaves his old station to take up a new. Former saKhan Tain McTighe would be an almost unprecedented action in the Coyote Clan but the warriors and scientists do share a special bond here that goes beyond normal traditions. Would his action to take up the helm of the Scientist Caste be challenged? Almost certainly so but by whom? Certainly not the Technologist who are behind the gambit in the first place but what of the Spiritualist, Successors, or Reactionaries??

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
4. I think the Blood Spirit did something like that in the past. Since the Clans are not good at gathering intelligence, you could imagine rotating units from one holding to another, changing their name or their Galaxy...

You make a good point in reverse Ice. Blood Spirit's secret buildup was well hidden until the Burrock Absorption in canon. I doubt any Clans knew the extent of their bolstered Touman. Perhaps this was why the Burrock Touman was only at seven Galaxies and weakening at this time too. Certainly their raiding of Spirit territory didn't completely stop but the returns would be getting far and far worse as the Spirit ground forces grew. I imagine some raiding parties were going to York and not returning after 3010 when the Spirit Touman reached 10 Galaxies in strength. The Burrocks probably would not admit to the Spirits thumping them in these attacks and make further outrageous claims as to how they achieved this capability.

Quote from: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
5 and 6. rather than increase the number of Clusters, I would try to increase their size and to homogenise them. Perhaps go to 32 Clusters for "normal" units (ie Front Line or Garrison ones) with 4 Clusters per Galaxy. You can have 5 Front Line and 3 Second Line Galaxies. This would allow you to create a training Galaxy with first 3 under-strength Clusters.

I geuss I skipped that Ice good spot. Yes the average strength of the new Coyote Galaxy after the Reformation would be 4 Clusters with a single Reserve (Front Line Galaxies) or Solahma (Second Line Galaxies) Cluster serving in each. So you have a core three Clusters with an Auxiliary fourth. Reserve Clusters I had in mind for older OmniMechs and veteran trueborn warriors, also any truly renowned freeborns could make these formations as well with high end (XL Engine) BattleMechs.
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Post by: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 01:51:18 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 27, 2018, 11:58:21 AM
The Warden Missions are quite simply designed to promote and strengthen that political philosophy which after Tukayyid is still at a low point so to speak. Khan McKibben becomes more and more interesting to me as a lone advocate trying to halt the Crusade once and for all - I think that the Spiritualist goal. Hardcore Wardens who stand opposed to any further invasion of the InnerSphere and a resumption of the Clans true mission to defend the old Star League from 'threats'. Old Warden talking points left this 'force' vague but could his new true Warden faction start naming enemies. Crusaders, Word of Blake, or any faction that they know admittedly have more knowledge of that needs stomping.

I think these missions might trigger Trials against Clan Coyote.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on October 27, 2018, 02:09:00 PM: For championing their Warden politics to other Clans thus interfering in their internal affairs? Why the Crusaders have done it for years and has not the Coyotes (and the Wolves) served as an anvil for the Crusade sharpening the edge of those who would invade?

I agree with you Ice don't get me wrong. Eventually Trials will occur but the Coyotes are starting with fertile ground with these missions. Wolf, Snow Raven, and Goliath Scorpion are already Warden Clans at this time even though all three have Crusader elements. In my story Wolf has begun to reform its sibko training and weed out Crusaders in its ranks. However Crusaders could bring action to the Grand Council for political interference almost mirroring Star Adder's aid to Crusaders in the Coyote Clan which resulted in the Blood Scandal.

Snow Raven is known for their Bloodhouse politics and they currently have an alliance with Jade Falcon so opponents of Khan Lynn McKenna could whine. I think there is less of a chance with Goliath Scorpion but possible still. Helping Wardens in Kindraa Payne in the Crusader Fire Mandrill Clan could be far more precarious and then we come to Cloud Cobra. A Warden Clan but blood enemies of the Coyotes thanks to their age old treachery. Reapproachment here could pose difficulties to say the least.

Adopting the Technologist research alliance goals with the likes of Wolf, Diamond Shark, and other Warden Clans might be less contraversial.
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Ice Hellion on October 27, 2018, 03:11:07 PM: Quote from: Takiro on October 27, 2018, 02:09:00 PM
For championing their Warden politics to other Clans thus interfering in their internal affairs? Why the Crusaders have done it for years and has not the Coyotes (and the Wolves) served as an anvil for the Crusade sharpening the edge of those who would invade?

In Warden Clans or pro-Warden Clans, it might not be a problem but in other Clans or if the Great Council or some Khans decide that it is mixing with their own affairs.
The moves from one political movement to another for internal reasons to a Clan is something that they can accept but the same movement coming from outside...
Title: Re: Elect new Coyote Khans! [POLL LINK]
Post by: Takiro on October 27, 2018, 03:43:06 PM: Well in the senior Khan's duties and responsibilities it states they are responsible for overseeing relationships their Clan and other Clans. While it is possible that even that duty could be delegated to another like the saKhan - I would think any diplomatic interaction such as establsihing these Warden Missions would need the Khan's consent.