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Title: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 20, 2019, 07:41:24 PM: Hey gang, after speaking with Red Pins (who has been instrumental in moving this forward) we thought it might be a good idea to create a thread detailing what exactly we are up to and hopefully get your help thus moving these fan made tomes into completed PDF book form.

So first of all I have to outline TRO 3054: Quicksilver Trials and TRO 3054: Quicksilver Upgrades (maybe a few more XTROs as well) below for you all with a planned table of contents. All the winning entries from our various contests will be included but they have to be subjected to a word count for book formatting (I'll let Red Pins explain in detail) as well as adding a few story elements for each Trial like a word about competitors and perhaps designing a couple of additional configurations for OmniMechs.

We've already completed some things and hopefully with your help we can get this fanbook done! What do you think?
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 20, 2019, 08:13:44 PM: Technical Readout 3054: Quicksilver Trails

Table of Contents (91)+

Vehicles [IIC and Fusion Upgrades] (10)
Quote
Zorya Light Tank   35 tons      175 (5/8)      Fire Mandrill
Baldur [Goblin IIC]   45 tons      225 (5/8)      Diamond Shark
Basilisk          45 tons       225 (5/8)      Steel Viper
Durga [Demon IIC]   60 tons       220 (4/6)      Steel Viper
Shiva [Patton IIC]   65 tons      260 (4/6)      Steel Viper
Tyr [Rommel IIC]   65 tons      260 (4/6)      Ghost Bear
Quetzalcoatl      70 tons      280 (4/6)      Star Adder
Horus [Partisan IIC]   80 tons      240 (3/5)      Jade Falcon
Huitzilopochtli      85 tons      255 (3/5)      Jade Falcon
Otso [Alacorn IIC]   95 tons      285 (3/5)      Ghost Bear

OmniVehicles (7)
Quote
Tanit Hovercraft      25 tons    120 (10/15)   8 tons      Blood Spirit
Fenris VTOL      30 tons    100 (8/12)      14 tons      Wolf
Nike Strike Tank      30 tons   180 (6/9)      8 tons      Hell's Horses
Bucephalus Carrier   50 tons    165 (8/12)      20 tons      Hell's Horses
Thor Urban Assault   55 tons   255 (5/8)      18 tons      Star Adder
Yen Lo Wang MBT   75 tons   375XL (5/8)   22.5 tons      Diamond Shark
Rudra Light Assault   80 tons   240 (3/5)      35 tons      Ice Hellion

BattleMechs [IIC Program] (16)
Quote
Mercury IIC       20 tons      200XL (10/15)   Jade Falcon
Hussar IIC       30 tons      270XL (9/14)   Ice Hellion
Wasp IIC         30 tons      120 (4/6/4)   Wolf
Assassin IIC      40 tons      280XL (7/11)   Star Adder
Sentinel IIC      40 tons      240 (6/9)      Jade Falcon
Crab IIC         50 tons       250 (5/8)      Diamond Shark
Dervish IIC      55 tons      275XL (5/8/5)   Smoke Jaguar
Champion IIC       60 tons      300XL (5/8/5)   Smoke Jaguar
Bombardier IIC      65 tons      260 (4/6)      Ghost Bear (SR & GS)+
Grasshopper IIC    70 tons      280 (4/6/4)   Cloud Cobra (GS)
Awesome IIC      80 tons      240 (3/5)      Blood Spirit
Battlemaster IIC      85 tons      255 (3/5)      Blood Spirit
+Crocket IIC       85 tons               Jade Falcon
Emperor IIC       90 tons      270 (3/5)      Goliath Scorpion
Banshee IIC      95 tons      380 (4/6)      Hellâ€™s Horses
Thunder Hawk IIC   100 tons      300XL (3/5)   Snow Raven

Quicksilver BattleMechs (17)
Quote
Claybeg      20 tons      120 (6/9)         Blood Spirit
Bear Cub      25 tons      200XL (?)         Ghost Bear
Caracara      30 tons      180XL (6/9/6)      Jade Falcon (SA)
Dingo       35 tons      315XL (9/14)      Coyote
Minotaur      35 tons       175 (5/8/5)      Goliath Scorpion
Ranger       35 tons      280XL (8/12)      Star Adder
Wayfinder      45 tons      180 (4/6)         Goliath Scorpion
Headhunter   50 tons      300XL (6/9)      Burrock
Thunder Hound    50 tons      350XL (7/11)      Wolf
Ursus       50 tons      200 ()         Ghost Bear
Jackal       55 tons       ?            Coyote
Firebrand       60 tons      300XL (5/8)      Fire Mandrill
Raging Bull   60 tons      300XL (5/8)      Hellâ€™s Horses
Blood Knight   70 tons      350XL (5/8)      Nova Cat
Hyena      75 tons      225 (3/5)         Coyote
Razorclaw      85 tons      340XL (4/6)      Ghost Bear
Scylla       100 tons      400XL (4/6)      Steel Viper (Hellâ€™s Horses)

OmniMechs (23)
Quote
Bloodwing      20 tons      140 XL (7/11)      Blood Spirit (Snow Raven)
Nightcrawler   20 tons      140 (7/11)         Burrock
Sparrow       25 tons      200 (8/12)         Jade Falcon
Gremlin       30 tons      210 (7/11)         Burrock
Quicksilver    35 tons       350XL (10/15)      Ice Hellion
Coral Snake   35 tons      210 (6/9)         Steel Viper
Sand Devil    45 tons      270 (6/9)          Diamond Shark (Goliath Scorpion)
Crimson Langur    50 tons      350XL (7/11)      Fire Mandrill (Blood Spirit)
Quasar       50 tons      250 (5/8)         Fire Mandrill
Hellfury      60 tons      360XL (6/9)      Star Adder
Iron Spider   60 tons      240 (4/6)         Burrock
Hellcat      70 tons      280XL (4/6)      Nova Cat
Crazy Horse   70 tons      280 (4/6)         Hellâ€™s Horses
Golden Lion   75 tons      300 (4/6)         Steel Viper (Goliath Scorpio)
Nightstalker   80 tons      320XL (4/6)      Ice Hellion
Glaive       80 tons      320 (4/6)         Diamond Shark
Savage Coyote   85 tons      255XL (3/5)      Coyote
Stone Lion    85 tons      255 (3/5/3)      Goliath Scorpion (Blood Spirit)
Blood Asp      90 tons      360XL (4/6)      Star Adder
Clansman       90 tons      270XL (3/5/3)      Diamond Shark
Kinslayer      95 tons      285 (3/5)         Blood Spirit (Ghost Bear)
DeChevalier   100 tons      400XL (4/6)      Ghost Bear
Menoetius       100 tons      300 (3/5)         Coyote (Wolf)

Aerospace Fighters (8+)
Quote
Sogdiana      25 tons      300XL (14/21)      Ice Hellion
Granicus      50 tons      250XL (7/11)       Nova Cat
Ammon       65 tons      260 (6/9)         Diamond Shark
Gaugamela   70 tons       280 (6/9)         Wolf (Coyote)
Pelium       75 tons      375XL (7/11)      Cloud Cobra
Miletus      80 tons      240 (5/8)         Jade Falcon
Danube      95 tons      285 (5/8)         Coyote
Halicarnassus   100 tons      400XL (6/9)      Ghost Bear

OmniFighters (10)
Quote
Sarmatian      25 tons      150XL (8/12)      6 tons      Goliath Scorpion
Apache       30 tons      270XL (11/17)      6 tons      Cloud Cobra
Gypsy      35 tons      350XL (12/18)      7 tons      Ice Hellion
Zulu         55 tons      330XL (8/12)      22 tons      Snow Raven
Shoshone       60 tons       240XL (6/9)      28 tons      Coyote
Maori         65 tons      195XL (5/8)      36 tons      Nova Cat
Qashqai      65 tons      325XL (7/11)      27 tons      Diamond Shark
Cimmerian      85 tons      340XL (6/9)      45.5 tons      Cloud Cobra
Kubulai      85 tons      255 (5/8)         52 tons      Fire Mandrill
Hyperborean   95 tons      285XL (5/8)      47 tons      Hellâ€™s Horses
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Red Pins on January 21, 2019, 01:04:20 AM: Wow, that's confusing-looking. I was thinking, like this - highlight the entries red and green according to what's been done.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 21, 2019, 05:01:23 AM: Give me a bit, I can do that. ;)

There are 91 designs so far (aerospace wise) for this book, at the standard 2 page layout is 182 page total just for designs.

Can you speak to word count for each design while I work on a sample ToC like you have there?
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: marauder648 on January 21, 2019, 07:08:39 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/8QmIp.gif)

Its going to be beautiful!
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 21, 2019, 09:36:01 AM: It should be marauder648!

I was thinking more last night about the split between Trials and Upgrades as some of the proposed designs above for the Trials could be considered Upgrades. For example, their are the four Accelerated OmniMechs (Crimson Langur, Hellcat, Savage Coyote, Blood Asp) which are currently listed under the Trials which should get their own category. They could really appear in either book as they just upgraded canon designs while Trials is for new stuff.

A couple of existing ICE Vehicles (Zorya and Quetzalcoatl) which could have them appear in Upgrades rather than Trials also brings up the interesting question should we consider the other existing Clan Vehicles for an Upgrade?? OmniFighters were certainly going to be part of the development process for TRO Upgrades but BattleMechs (IIC Program) could also be shoved over there. I geuss it is all a matter of equal distrubtion and what you'd like to see.

So what would you like to see??
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Red Pins on January 21, 2019, 08:51:43 PM: Well, I'm not going to second-guess you. Similarly, it will spend on layout, your manual of style, and font. (size and style)

We can do the work and expand to fit it required.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 21, 2019, 10:00:01 PM: Some entries are a little unwieldy with too much fluff (and it is hard to make cuts on such good stories) while others need a healthy rewrite. I will try to get some time tomorrow to come up with two different Table of Contents for each fanbook.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Ice Hellion on January 22, 2019, 12:51:25 AM: Quote from: Takiro on January 21, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
Some entries are a little unwieldy with too much fluff (and it is hard to make cuts on such good stories) while others need a healthy rewrite. I will try to get some time tomorrow to come up with two different Table of Contents for each fanbook.

You might need to harmonise them (with a number of characters for each section and fixed sections). Otherwise, it will be a bit messy.
The plus side is that it will give more background and flesh to your AU.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on January 22, 2019, 06:05:00 AM: Yes exactly.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on February 03, 2019, 11:16:47 AM: Okay folks, I think I have a working premise for two different TROs. This first will be TRO 3054: Quicksilver Trials (concentrating on new designs from the original competitions) while the second will be TRO 3054: Quicksilver Upgrades (refitting existing designs for optimal performance).

Right now the first runs at 69 designs with some more aerospace fighters to come while the second runs at 68. Pretty even split I think but it seems like book one will grow thanks to the fighters which leaves expansion for book two or that could be smaller.

Plus there are designs that we just don't cover at all that the Clans use. Not sure what to do with the untouched designs??

Thoughts??
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Ice Hellion on February 03, 2019, 04:14:06 PM: First thing, I know you don't aim at being published but usually, the number of pages is a multiple of 4.

Second, do you have an idea of the layout you will follow? In other words, do you think that every design will manage to fill the classical 2 pages (or 3 or ...).
If you need help with this part of the rewriting, I am only a click away.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on February 03, 2019, 11:06:56 PM: Well I look at e-pub or fanbooks as quasi publishing anywayâ€¦

Yes, pretty classic TRO layout with perhaps some detail in there about the Quicksilver Trials. Hopefully we will have a few summary books done before this to explain what has happened in greater detail up to the Trials.

Thanks Ice, I will need you and the whole gang! ;)
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: wolfcannon on February 25, 2019, 12:02:16 AM: is this book still going?
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on February 25, 2019, 06:12:08 AM: These books are still going yes. We finished the OmniMech challenges for both recently but three more remain to be judged. There are other designs which have to be finished and entries have to be finalized for printing. So a bunch more needs to be done.

Right now Sadurni is absorbing most of my attention.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: wolfcannon on March 04, 2019, 08:07:28 PM: Cool
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on March 05, 2019, 06:10:38 AM: Yeah been very busy handling snow storms recently and trying to prepare for the Battle of Sadurni but we will return to your regularly scheduled broadcast soon.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Red Pins on March 05, 2019, 09:32:37 PM: Quote from: Takiro on March 05, 2019, 06:10:38 AM
Yeah been very busy handling snow storms recently and trying to prepare for the Battle of Sadurni but we will return to your regularly scheduled broadcast soon.

Ugh. Water main break at work has me chipping away between an inch, inch-and-a-half. Hundred meters or so, mixed with sand and gravel. Hate it.

Send me a list of revisions for the Quasar, or the next unit to start on.
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Takiro on March 06, 2019, 06:14:44 AM: Quote from: Red Pins on March 05, 2019, 09:32:37 PM
Ugh. Water main break at work has me chipping away between an inch, inch-and-a-half. Hundred meters or so, mixed with sand and gravel. Hate it.

Been there before my friend, no fun!

I want to take a good look at the Quasar before I send it back to you, might get some time this weekend. ;)
Title: Re: Fanbook Compilation: TRO 3054 Series
Post by: Red Pins on March 06, 2019, 09:38:10 PM: Since I should have extra time too, send me both the revision list and what you have for the next one. (I'm going to be very sick (Cough! Cough!) Monday). Its an all-day meeting for one of the foster kids to try to settle guardianship and visitation out of court, but I hope to have extra time, too.