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Covered by Crimson Langur, unless it's too far down the timeline to get into this as the standard entry

Yeah I am sorry JP but the Crimson Langur is going to be the 50 ton Speedster. I know the canon design history was not begun to well after the Burrock Absorption and the Great Refusal (post 3062 easy) but there is several reasons the design is ideal to expedite.

Sorry but I have to call bullocks on that, particularly if you dumped the hellion and cougar from consideration.

Well folks only one more cut to make and I want your input. For the 65 ton Vampire (Assailant) bracket we have two competitors.

First up we have the venerable Hellbringer (aka Loki) manufactured by the Hell’s Horses which mounts a 325 XL engine (5/8) along with 13 integral double heat sinks. Pod space is 28.5 tons which is not too bad, works out to almost 44 percent of total mass reserved for weapons and equipment. Personally I am a big cause I see a lot of my favorite BattleMech of all time, the Warhammer, in this one. However, this design first produced in 2926 is showing its age. With only 8 tons of standard armor plate which produces a lowly 128 armor factor this Clan classic has become increasingly vulnerable. To max out the armor protection you would need another 5 tons of armor! So while sacrificing armor for firepower is very Vampirish has this OmniMech outlived its life cycle? It is important to note that this is Hell's Horses only manufactured canon OmniMech and discontinuing it would leave a viable Clan without a design in the Quicksilver fight.

The challenger is the brand new Ebon Jaguar (Cauldron-Born) manufactured by the Smoke Jaguars to replace the Hellbringer in 3049. It also mounts a 325 XL engine (5/8) along with 13 integral double heat sinks but goes tosses in an EndoSteel structure and Ferro Fibrous armor. This eats up far more critical space (14) compared to the Hellbringer but provides extra weight for armor and weapons. With 30 tons of pod space it can out carry its would be forerunner slightly and has superior armor protection, 9.5 tons with a 182 armor factor. This would be the 5th design produced by the Jaguars under the Quicksilver Program but can they afford it? We know this Clan's resources have grown scarce and reducing their production load may benefit the Clans as a whole.

Who should win? Who will win? What do you think??
 

I agree Ebon Jaguar.  It the "must have the newest toy" syndrome that is taking over the Warriors of Kerensky!   

Ebon Jaguar all the way id take it over the Hellbringer every day of the week

.. and twice on Sunday. Plus it looks meaner than the Hellbringer, which reminds me of an overgrown Corvis

go ahead and let the Hellbring fall... or will it? *places pinkie finger to lips and laughs like a madman*

As we go into the Clan Heavy weights we face one more decision - should we reactivate production of two older designs which would qualify as Zombies under the Quicksilver Program? I suppose it maybe easier to simply restart production of these venerable machines but also they were discontinued for a reason. The other option is to have two more Zombie design contests.

The Lupus and the Woodsman both use the 300 fusion engine to achieve descent speed for a Zombie matching InnerSphere opponents (5/8 and 4/6 respectively). However both were hunted down and replaced by faster Clan OmniMechs adding to the poor image of OmniMech equipped with standard fusion engines. They both utilize EndoSteel for their internal structure. The Lupus was 60 tons and was first produced by Clan Coyote in 2857. It had 23 tons of pod space which seems pretty good for this weight range while 9 tons of ferro fibrous provided an armor factor of 172. The Woodsman was a Wolf OmniMech first manufactured in 2865. It has 27.5 tons of pod space and is equipped with a MASC enabling short boosts in speed. 13.5 tons of standard plating make for an armor factor of 216.

So what say you? Reactivate or design new?