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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2011, 10:27:04 PM »

The Lyran Ambassador may wish for my censor. He may wish for a great many things but I dare say he shall not have them.

That is up to the Chairman, of which, thankfully you are not. I leave it for him to decide. Your impudence is interesting, and demonstration of an inability to function in polite company.

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Now that being said I would be happy to take ownership of any such papers and transcripts as you would wish to provide my government on the completely unconscionable occupation of Andiron.

Such arrangements will be made later today, as for unconscionable, well, that's a point of argument, isn't it?

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Further we will not allow you to use our just and proportionate response to the series of cross border raids the Lyran Commonwealth initiated throughout 3024 which I would remind you sir lead to this war.

Just and proportionate response? We didn't seize any worlds, and our strikes were against military targets? Since when was the Timibqui brewery a military target?

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That is...if your prepared to conduct the plebiscite without the presence of any forces on world to intimidate the populous.

Our troops will remain to maintain order and protect the planet until the plebiscite has occurred. We wouldn't want temptation coming into any minds in Atreus, would we? By the way, have you ever apologized to Circinius for your occupation of their capital during the 2nd Succession War? It's rather odd you're waving the bloody shirt for them.

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What is needed is a neutral observer to see that things are carried out properly. I nominate Comstar, anyone with a brain can see they have maintained neutrality with all realms represented here.

No, after what has come out with Comstar's participation in this war. We would not allow, nor tolerate Comstar's observers present at any such plebiscite. You want observers? We ask for representatives from ORCA.

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We entered the war at the request of every. single. one. of our neighbors in the region over the troubling acts of aggression of the then Ceaser O'Reilly who is no longer with us may he find a better path in his next life.

Might be the only thing we agree on, by the way, how are the Marik troops you sent to Niops? I hear it was a rather sad situation. Cautionary tale on the horrors of war and intervening in others affairs?

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I call upon the representatives of Illyria, Lothia and Circinus to confirm that Free Worlds involvement was beneficial to the resolution of that war in their favor.

You don't need to, we're willing to concede the point, but please, don't cloak yourself in such wonderful language. You're no more angelic than we are. We're just more willing to try not to be twits.

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That being said the new Ceaser O'Reilly is proving to be a far more amiable neighbor then his father and we have no issues in regard with the swift turn over of those citizens of NIOP's which have sought a new life in the Free Worlds League.

By citizens, do you mean the whole planet? I am sure the Oberon Confederation ambassador can provide the communique about your demands over that.

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No Ambassador what we have had is Lyran Aggression as it was your military which first crossed the border since the end of the 3rd Succession War or will you deny the facts of the matter? Anyway you want to look at it your Archon violated the peace when she sent her armies of thugs and low rent Mercenaries across the border then in her "wisdom" she went skiing and unfortunately only nearly broke her fool neck.

Ya know, if you can't say something nice...So I won't. You sir have proven to be an uncivil, uncouth and unpleasant person in these exchanges. I may be at war with the Kuritans, but he's less of an unreconstructed fatuous fathead than you are. I've discussed this, perhaps I need to speak slower for the average slack jawed Marik to keep up.

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And now, now you prattle on about how your boy might die in the war instead of spending his mandatory service putting up bunting at Military Ball's well boo freaking hoo. Or do you think that men and women don't and have not died in those state sanctioned thieving expeditions you call raids?

Of course they have, and as usual, you're missing the point, tell me, Mr. Ambassador? Do you have any sons or daughters at the front yourself? Have you been in battle yourself? <holds up cane> I got this from a Drac Warhammer. I did in the service of my country. The Warhammer pilot did it in the service of his. I hold him no ill will. I can't say the same of you. You epitomize the old saying about war. "Old men start wars, but young men are left to fight them". You don't scare me, Mr. Ambassador. I know your kind, you're a bully, used to getting what he wants. Well, you just try it with me.
 
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War is evil, but not standing up to Lyran Tyranny is by far a worse evil. When this conflagration comes to an end the Lyran Commonwealth shall not be in a position to violate her neighbors borders for a long time, and because of that many young men and women now in their cribs will get to grow up without the exchange of auto-cannon's violating the night. Without the flames of Lyran Pirates Dropships raining down on their worlds night sky I look forward to that day.

Ah, and I wish you had the insight to replace Lyran with any of our nations...Guess what you moron? That's how they feel about any of us in the border regions?

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You say you want peace Ambassador? Then at least have the decency to inquire as to terms before you insist that your neighbors whom you have wronged are unreasonable in their terms.

On the matter of claims should I take this to mean the Lyran Commonwealth no longer maintains its spurious claim the Captain-General's title of First Lord after all..its quite old as well is it not?


Because any fool can guess what your terms even are, and simply put...keep 'em. No on Hesperus, No on Skye. I mean, would you give us Dixie or Timbiqui back? Somehow, I doubt it.

Wow, haven't you kept up with current events? She renounced it almost a year ago in a speech before the Estates-General. It's a dead throne that belongs to an ancient time. Fine, let's say any of our nations SOMEHOW gets their claim recognized by one other nation to the League throne? Then what? Suddenly peace, harmony and goodwill breaks out? We all bow down towards the holder of the golden crown like he's the messiah come to earth? No. The rest of us will call him a pretender and we'll pretty much carry on as before. The sad part is, Ambassador? Were there an external threat to the Inner Sphere? I think I'd pray pretty hard it didn't come through your nation first? The rest of us would be pretty reluctant to help you out.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2011, 12:44:12 AM »

The Marian Ambassodor, now a little bored, leans forward.

Gentlemen and Ladies, were we not discussing the Pirate scourge before the Lyan and Marik ambassadors treid to refight the entireity of the Succession Wars before us.  I think we can all agree that both the Marik and Lyran delegations will not agreee: on anything.

I would ask what other action states may take to combat the priates of the fringes?
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2011, 05:15:48 AM »

Denenesh Hashimoto wrote hastily at some time in the fight of words, in nice Kana. Only once she looked irritated. (Panzerfaust, she might be old, but she is still a woman. ;) )

However, when there was a breathing room, she stood again:

"Gentlemen, I agree with Ambassador Saul, your fight here is detrimental to the atmosphere of civility. I ask you both to breathe and take a step back, otherwise I would be forced to call for a recess. I heard the air around the 'Genfer See' is beautiful in this time of year. Let us not forget, we are on Terra. Ambassador Halstein, I will send message about your son on Tamar and should this campaign come to a conclusion, if he is alright, perhaps we will know before the official statements are out.

Now, ambassador Saul, I will have to ask what the Dragon can do about the increasing Pirate plague. In the least we have to protect our own citizens, if not others."
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2011, 06:26:15 AM »

Ambasador Reeves of the Outworlds Alliance clears her throat and says in a loud and clear voice:-

'Ladies and Gentelmen of the soverign nations of the inner sphere and periphery, it seems to the leadership of the Outworlds that the pirates that trouble us all are being supplyed by someone and that the ORCA nations at least should look to finding that supplyer and ripping their harts out!'
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2011, 09:56:34 AM »

Ambassador Halstein takes a deep breath and nods. "Thank you Ambassador Hashimoto, I thank you. I apologize for my behavior. I have a nasty personality defect. I hate being called a liar. Again, I apologize. As for the pirate problem. Well, LIC's drawn a blank, even with increased monitoring of said pirates as directed by the Archon. We've had a combined TF with Oberon hunt some of the bastards down. I am happy to say we put paid to at least one band through them, and another band through cooperation with the Rim Collection. Another few bands, we've badly damaged. Simply put, the pirates are like roaches...kill one? Five more take their damn place. And what of the band that raided the Outworlds? They had Star League tech and warships! Such things frankly, shouldn't be in the hands of pirates. I agree with the Marian ambassador. Something is very, very wrong."
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2011, 12:02:49 PM »

Turning to Ambassador Hashimoto, Simon Kosh takes a deep breath and begins

"Ambassador Hashimoto, although you claim to be striving to have good relations with those that wish you no harm, seeking to protect your own citizens against the threat of piracy, and seeking good will and harmony.  The recent truth is far from what you claim.

Speaking from experience regarding dealing with the Draconis Combine in recent years,
- the Oberon Confederation has actively sought to remove trade barriers which make trade between our two realms cost prohibitive, with all of our diplomatic messages unanswered by your government.  Without the basis of simple bilateral communication, how can nations even begin to have good relations, let alone develop a trading partnership?

- there does not appear to be harmony in the trade fleet distribution of the Draconis Combine in fact there appears to be a notable lack of diversity.  One can only wonder what the citizens of the Draconis Combine think of such lack of diversity, let alone your trading partners.

- The Draconis Combine's singular abrupt response to the numerous communications sent from the Oberon Confederation regarding the threat of pirates, offers to work together to combat the pirate threat, offers to share intelligence on the whereabouts of pirate bands that were very successfully raping and pillaging throughout the District of Rasalhague shows a complete disregard for the safety of those citizens.

- The pirate band Santander's Killers, based out of Santander V, for instance launched a devastating and highly successful series of raids throughout the District of Rasalhague.  The complete lack of response from the DCMS to this threat is a travesty.  Instead the DCMS stripped nearly the entire district of military forces to launch their attacks against the Lyran Commonwealth leaving the citizens of the entire District of Rasalhague at the mercy of marauding pirates.  Once again it appears that the DCMS takes the young men and women of the District and sends them off to die on Lyran worlds, instead of protecting their own families against pirate predations.  That is one way of limiting rebellious thoughts in a population, burying the strength of the region on foreign shores, while allowing pirates to feed of their unprotected families.  The blood of those innocent women and children is on the hands of the Combine government.

- Numerous refugees from this oppressed region have found a home within the Oberon Confederation, and many now serve within the Oberon Confederation Armed Forces.  Many of our units wanted nothing more than to cross the border into the District of Rasalhague in order to provide the protection against these marauding pirates that the DCMS appears to be so negligent in providing. 

- Only when this pirate band left the District of Rasalhague, which is supposedly under the Combine protection and I use that term loosely, was any sort of response to this single pirate band launched.  And what form did that response take, oh yes, a task force of troops from the Oberon Confederation Armed Forces.  Not only did forces of the OCAF launch an attack to remove the base of operations of the pirates on Santander V, but we have placed a net of forces to react and hunt down the band itself, as well as a set a task force to actively hunt them down while they are operating within reach of the Oberon Confederation operational area. 

- Not only did this one pirate band over double in size only partially accountable from successfully pillaging throughout the Rasalhague feasting on the flesh of these hardworking and innocent people, but the complete lack of response by the DCMS has emboldened every pirate and pirate want-to-be in the periphery to take their pound of flesh from the defenceless and unresponsive Combine.  By being completely oblivious to the pirate threat in it’s midst, the DCMS further places all other Districts within the Combine at risk as well as forcing the other periphery nations in the region to fend off an increasing pirate presence.

- The success of pirate bands like this against an unresponsive nation has encouraged the formation of countless other new bands seeking to mimic the prosperity.  Where these bands are obtaining their materials is still yet to be determined.

So forgive me Ambassador Hashimoto if I find your words to be quite hollow and without substance.  In the future I would love for you to prove our experiences to be an isolated to a dark period of time, but that will not bring back any of the peace or harmony you speak so fondly of taken from these citizens of the District of Rasalhague, the Oberon Confederation, and countless other victims."
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2011, 01:04:34 PM »

Ambasador Reeves turns to face ambasador Kosh of the Oberon Confederation

'Ambasador after hearing your thoughts on the matter one can only feel that the citizens of the near periphery areas of the Rasalhague Military District would sleep sounder in their beds if they were under the protection of House Grimm and the Oberon Confederation Armed Forces'
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2011, 02:16:22 PM »

Hashimoto, once again having written much throughout the address of ambassador Kosh, looked at him, just glancing over to Ambassador Reeves. Her expression was solemn, as it had become throughout the speech of Kosh.

"Ambassador Kosh, you talked very much. However, there were points that are worth thinking about, but others that lead you on an interesting road.

Let me try to address some of your points: The failure of contacting your realm's Leadership or answering their calls is something I will present to my superiors. I have nothing on my hands regarding this, but you seem sure that it was intentional. The mutual opening of borders for trade sounds well and also, I will ask my superiors on Luthien if there could be a prospering trade established, something that both realms would certainly profit from.

Now, however, touching the topic of Pirate activity and the most notable, Santander's Killers, you provide your observations and go forth with assumptions. That should be beneath you. Do you think your intelligence service is that proficient to prove that the might of the Dragon, sometimes slower to mobilize than that of smaller forces, would not move against that terrible aggression against its citizens? Are you 100 % sure about that? Even I would not dare to say this, but then I am only a servant of the Dragon far away on Terra. Rest assured I dare to say that the Dragon protects all of his people.

That there are malcontents even in our realm that I will not deny. And if they found a new home with Oberon then I wish them all the best.


You must know though, where your assumptions turn into dangerous thoughts that could be seen as unfriendly. Assuming the Dragon could and would not protect its citizens is such a thought.
I assure you that the Dragon's might will turn against anyone threatening the cohesion, trust or welfare of its citizens, Pirate or other. Now, if Ambassador Halstein can be civil, then you should follow his example, even as our realms are unfortunately struggling against one another with armed forces.

I told you that I will seek to get my superiors to improve relations with you, but do not try to overstep certain boundaries. Thank you." With that and a glare to Reeves she sat back down.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2011, 02:30:18 PM »

We of the Marian Hegemony salute the most excellent efforts of Oberon against Pirates, and the Federated Suns for that matter in thier destruction of Tortuga in 3023.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2011, 01:23:15 PM »

Ambassador Hashimoto, the Oberon Confederation's Intelligence gathering performs admirably for the budget we can afford such things, as a small newly formed periphery state whose priority is survival and self sufficiency.  No one can be 100% sure what a nation might do to "move against such terrible aggression against it's citizens", we were merely commenting on observations of what 2 nations have done faced with raiding by the same band of pirates.

When faced with the information that Santander’s Killers had jumped out of the space claimed by the Draconis Combine and began operating near the borders of the Oberon Confederation, the OCAF repositioned itself to respond to protect their citizens from even the potential of raiding.  When actually faced with pirate raiding by this single band which grew significantly due to it’s most recent successes, began the process of cutting the pirate band off from their base of operations, and hunting them down to ensure they could not further threaten the citizens of the Confederation.

Please describe to us what the DCMS has done, when faced with pirates actively raiding throughout the Rasalhague district, or Pesht district as they do now?  Every news agency, even common information and observations of troop movements see no response from the DCMS for at least the past 3 years worth of raiding by countless pirate bands, only a mass exodus of troops from the periphery borders to feed this latest offensive against the Federated Suns and Lyran Alliance.  Wouldn’t such a mass exodus only encourage further pirate predations from the periphery?

Although you claim that the mighty DCMS is slow to mobilize compared to a smaller military, it is obvious that the truth is quite different.  One need only question where the postings of some of the Pesht and Benjamin Regulars and Armoured Brigades were over the past year, or where the sons and daughters of all of the Rasalhague military elements have been posted and now find themselves.   The Rasalhague Regulars, Armoured Brigades, Draconis Aerospace Wings, Altenmarket Militia, Night Stalkers, or An Ting Legions that have all been quite quickly mobilized to fight and die over Kobe, Tamar, Severn and Suk II.  The 2nd An Ting Legion itself defended against those very same pirates on New Caledonia before being mobilized all the way from the periphery border to Severn in the Lyran Commonwealth.  No my dear Ambassador, the question is not whether or not the DCMS can mobilize quickly, rather what the DCMS command chooses to mobilize quickly against.

In response to Ambassador Reeves’ statement, Prince Grimm’s Oberon Confederation Armed Forces choose to actively seek to remove pirate threats from the Coreward periphery region; however they are not sufficient to provide the security the people of the District of Rasalhague deserve.  Then again isn't that what the Rasalhague Regulars, Rasalhague Armored Brigades, Altenmarkt Milita, and Rasalhague / Draconis Aerospace Wings were created for?

And finally if these thoughts are seen as unfriendly or uncivil, they are merely a passionate man's observations of a neighbour’s military’s past actions, and a call to action that hopefully will result in the DCMS joining the esteemed company of nations that have acted effectively against piracy and protected their citizens from the near constant nibbles of pirate threats.  The pirate threat is one that the Oberon Confederation knows exceedingly well and is quite passionate about resolving.

I am sure our government looks forward to discussions with the government of the Draconis Combine regarding the improvement of communication between our realms as well as trade and other opportunities.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2011, 02:18:08 PM »

I think we might never find a really and perfect agreement.
The Inner Sphere States are more or less focused on their internal disputes and the Periphery States are trying to get more while repelling pirate attacks sponsored by an unknown third party.

In the end, this can only lead to more destruction and a complete economical disaster.
We have more to gain from cooperation than from destruction.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2011, 04:16:25 PM »

"Ambassador Kosh, it seems that you cling to the past in this matter. I applaud your intensity in this matter, especially considering your realm's past. However, this is about now. Even if you did bring low the Pirate group, this is no indication of the future actions of the Dragon and I would say that it will be the final word about the matter. If there can be a common course of forces in dealing with the Pirate issue is not mine to decide."

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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2011, 07:51:23 PM »

Stretching, the ever arrogant Tiberius Saul, took centre stage agin:

We within the Hegemony are interested to see that the Periphery Guards Battalion of Canopus has arrived at Logan Prime.  This is another concrete instance of the Periphery working together to imporve the lot of all our members.

Something the Inner Sphere could do much to learn from.

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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2011, 05:22:33 AM »

Stretching, the ever arrogant Tiberius Saul, took centre stage agin:

We within the Hegemony are interested to see that the Periphery Guards Battalion of Canopus has arrived at Logan Prime.  This is another concrete instance of the Periphery working together to imporve the lot of all our members.

Something the Inner Sphere could do much to learn from.

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Yes, my dear Ambassador, there are many many things the Inner Sphere could learn, and I fear, they will be learning it all too soon.
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Re: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2011, 05:24:10 AM »

Tiberius, learing sugestivly at the Canopian ambassadoress, returns

One does like ones thinking my lady. Maybe we can ruffle a few feathers along the way?
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