Topic: First Session of the Council of Geneva - 3025 (Read 48891 times)

Kwic · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2011, 09:58:48 PM »

Quote from: Blacknova on February 04, 2011, 07:34:45 PM

Tiberius Saul, I faint smile on his face muttered:

It is nice to see their true thoughts for once. ComStar really is no different than a Successor State: Just a little more self righteous and somewhat more deluded than most.

There are three major differences,
- Comstar has a monopoly on interstellar communications with their HPG network,
- They have continually professed their neutrality in all interstellar dealings,
- They have not had the military might of a Successor State, and merely sought to ensure the safety and security of Terra.

Perhaps there is now only one difference, time will certainly tell.

Interdiction by Comstar on HPG traffic is still a very real threat to any State

Blacknova · « **Reply #61 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:18:33 PM »

Tiberius laughe before responding, his arrogance, as ever, showing through:

Interdiction is such a blunt weapon, effective though it may be. Using interdiction shows a lack of ability from the leaders of the time, through thier inabilty to control events which impact upon them and the events they are involved in. Much like nuclear weapons and orbital bombardment, interdiction is the blunt weapon of the fool.

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #62 on:** February 07, 2011, 06:36:04 PM »

Precentor, may I remind you that we are all independent States?
We might lack the Holy Light of Blake but we are more than able to deal with our problems if no one messes with them.

I would also ask those making accusations that one power or another supports Pirates to show evidences.

Blacknova · « **Reply #63 on:** February 08, 2011, 01:14:04 AM »

Tiberius Saul, feet now up on the desk, goes on -

My dear Taurian friend, if you expect a straight answer out this pack of high tech, Inner Sphere, cradle robbers, then I do truly think it is time for you to have a little lie down.

The only thing these dam tyrants understand is force! Ask the poor dead of the 2nd Atrean Hussars on Niops if that fool Duncan Marik got the message before or after they were forced to die under our guns.

They have always feared us, always feared the potential of those in the Periphery to rise up and bring about the next age of humanity, one no longer beholden to the dictates of Terra, nor to the whims of the self aggrandising Successor Lords.

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #64 on:** February 08, 2011, 02:54:03 PM »

Bowing to the Marian ambassador

Thank you Ambassador Saul for reminding us of the problems facing the Periphery.
I know violence is the ultimate answer and if anyone doubts it, just ask the founding fathers of Carthage what they think of it.

Regarding the position of the Inner Sphere, I am no fool.
I just wanted to remember everyone that an accusation without evidence is nothing.
I can always say that any given State is supporting pirates and this State can accuse another one and so on.

In the war atmosphere that is running in the Inner Sphere, all these claims aren't worth our time.
We need evidences and then the will to act upon them.

Blacknova · « **Reply #65 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:31:13 PM »

Tiberius Saul turns to the Capellan Ambassador

Another interesting question I would be interested in hearing the answer to, is how did the Celestail Throne come by the abilty to build WarShips so suddenly?

Coriendal · « **Reply #66 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:46:07 PM »

We had thought this question might come up. Does it really matter. It appears the answer is only if Comstar supplied us with the knowledge. We received no assistance from Comstar in the research or building of our warships. That is all that we will say about this.

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #67 on:** February 11, 2011, 01:59:35 PM »

Looking at the Marian Ambassador

Why does it matter?
Do you think the Terran Hegemony would have answered such a question?

Blacknova · « **Reply #68 on:** February 11, 2011, 04:33:43 PM »

A quick retort:

Considering the Terran Hegemony does not exist, I see that as a rather pointless example.

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #69 on:** February 11, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »

With a bemused smile

See it rather as a rhetorical question.

Blacknova · « **Reply #70 on:** February 18, 2011, 07:20:08 PM »

Following a long pause (OOC: you people are hopeless when I'm not around), Tiberius casts his gaze across the assembled dignitaries.

It would seem, all minor issues aside, that perhaps one issue we could discuss, if that is, the five representatives of the great houses of the Inner Sphere can behave, is what would be required to bring about peace?

It is all well and good to claim former worlds as your own, but two centuries of being part of another realm has all but erased many worlds loyalty to their former realms. Perhaps an ORCA adjudicated discussion on establishing secure and permanent borders between the five houses could be a path to peace?

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #71 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:23:58 PM »

(OOC: I am not but the Taurian Concordat cannot be everywhere. Otherwise you would probably release the Clans on my poor Taurian Concordat

)

Ambassador Tiberius, do you really believe this?
This means that conquerors are on the long term always right and that there should be no right for independence and such.
This is a dangerous statement, one made by a predator.

However working on the conditions to bring peace in the Inner Sphere is something worth doing for the greater good.

Blacknova · « **Reply #72 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:59:03 PM »

To the Taurian

I was merely stating that certain worlds like Kittery, would still be more Capellan than Davion, where as a world like Sirdar is now a strong Davion world. By giving the people of these worlds a chance to speak out, as was done on Andrion so recently, the need for war may be greatly reduced. Where the world is in close balance between two sides, ORCA could mediate.

I cannot see how that could be misconstrued as predatory. Of course, I do understand the Taurian reluctance to engage in such matters, as your own lost worlds have been gone for near on 400 years.

drakensis · « **Reply #73 on:** February 20, 2011, 08:06:32 AM »

Leaning forwards, J.D. Davion steeples his hands. "While I don't have specific instructions for this - I have no doubt that the First Prince would be interested in knowing what the Kapteyn powers are looking to accomplish."

"The Federated Suns desires would, I believe, run along the lines of a return to the pre-war borders except for concessions to us that open a corridor to our Lyran allies. Given the... optimistic nature of those goals, actual terms would be negotiable of course and I imagine that his highness would settle for rather less, assuming that the honorable Archon Katrina Steiner were agreeable."

"I don't see any reason why ORCA couldn't act as arbitrators. They would certainly have more credibility than certain other groups."

Ice Hellion · « **Reply #74 on:** February 20, 2011, 03:16:48 PM »

Turning to the Davion ambassador

So Sir, do you mean this whole mess came out of irrational fears?
That the Kapteyn powers are wrong in fearing the rise of a new super power and that all you ask is the right to have a safe corridor to your allies?

Turning to Ambassador Tiberius and with a bemused smile

TouchÃ©.
But this does not invalidate my point: if on the long term, you consider that a conquering power can "eradicate" local culture, then every State is free to invade whatever it wants as once it is conquered and kept for a couple of decades, it is absorbed.
Do I have to remind you that this did not work in the Periphery during the Star League times?
Why would it be different now?

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