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Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« on: April 23, 2013, 07:57:10 PM »

WarShips and Their Operations.

Delegates, though the FWL has yet to deploy active WarShips, we are not far from doing so and would like to propose the following with regards to their deployment and use.

WarShip Deployments
We would ask that WarShips not be deployed in squadrons larger then 4 ships, meaning that saturation bombardment of planetary surfaces becomes a difficult proposition.

Orbital Bombardment
We would move that this be allowed, as long as no civilian or infrastructure is endangered.  This is merely very heavy artillery and we see no reason to prevent its use against legitimate military targets engaged in combat.

Nuclear Weapons
We would ask for a ban on all use of nuclear weapons against naval vessels, due to the time and expense required to build one.  The FWL has no intention of utilising such tactics in future and would prefer not to loose a expensive WarShip to nuclear fire.

Terran F-MIDS System
In order to make the above point more palatable, we would ask the Terran Hegemony to share the F-MIDS system, at a technological level compatible with the other powers, in order to balance the naval playing field.



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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 09:48:17 PM »

WarShip Deployments- The Confederation sees no need to place a limit no one will follow on how many warships may be in a squadron.

Orbital Bombardment- Should not be allowed.  Trying to guarantee no loss of civilians or infrastructure is impossible.

Nuclear Weapons- Ridiculous.  If you have 90 warships and I have 10 I am using nuclear weapons on them.  Get over it.

Terran F-MIDS System- Why would they give up a piece of tech like that.  Build your own equivalent.  Stop whining.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 09:51:55 PM »

Should the Capellans, and others, wish to utilse nuclear warheads against WarShips, the the FWL reserves the right to use capital weapons against surface targets of a military nature.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 10:19:45 PM »

I believe I am in agreement with the Capellan Confederation. The Terran Hegemony will not agree or abide any limitation on the use of our Navy. While our officers will go out of their way to limit civilian casualities, there is no guarantee in war that casualties will not occur. Therefore, the Hegemony could not in good conscience share the Free Worlds League's position.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 10:25:28 PM »

The Capellan Confederation will, under no circumstances use nuclear weapons against surface targets.

We would move that any nation that does use nuclear weapons against surface targets should suffer an immediate interdiction of HPG use and heavy penalties up to and including the dismantling of that nations leadership.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 10:37:23 AM »

The Lyran Commonwealth supports naval restrictions, but not totally of the sort the League is proposing: We support a naval limitation treaty along the lines of the ancient 1929 Washington Naval Treaty. This can be negotiated here or elsewhere.

We further are against the ban on the use of nuclear weapons against capital warship targets, but only in response to orbital bombardment. We are categorically against their planetside use except when there is a grave threat to a nation's national sovereignty. This would be in the case of a major threat to a center of industry or a national capital and a call for a cease fire has failed.

As for Terran sharing of the F-MIDS system, we might be amenable, but that would be covered under point one.

The Lyran Commonwealth, due to the damage inflicted on Skye and elsewhere has always followed a policy of no-first-use with regards to Orbital Bombardment. We will not be the first to use such a powerful means of scouring a world, and surgical strikes with a warship are akin to doing neurosurgery with a meat cleaver.

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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 06:18:27 PM »

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The Lyran Commonwealth, due to the damage inflicted on Skye and elsewhere has always followed a policy of no-first-use with regards to Orbital Bombardment. We will not be the first to use such a powerful means of scouring a world, and surgical strikes with a warship are akin to doing neurosurgery with a meat cleaver.

Only if your crews are incompotent, but then, the Lyran nation has never been known for producing talented commanders.

The Free Worlds League will in no way be bound by some archaic notion that one state can tell another how many ships it can build and I am sure no power will willing scrap ships if they are over some arbitry limit.

If the Lyran state wishes to bind itself with a no first use policy, be my guest, however, should the League produce such vessels, and League troops are in mortal danger, or the prize worth the risk, we will use orbital artillery fire in support of those units.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 01:46:29 PM »

The Free Worlds League will in no way be bound by some archaic notion that one state can tell another how many ships it can build and I am sure no power will willing scrap ships if they are over some arbitry limit.

I must stand with the Free Worlds League on this matter.
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Re: Adgenda Proposed by the Free Worlds League
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 10:12:56 AM »

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Only if your crews are incompetent, but then, the Lyran nation has never been known for producing talented commanders.


Are you stating the crews of the Capellan navy are incompetent sir? They have the most experience of any of us and they still cannot manage "surgical" strikes with Orbital Bombardment. Face it Captain-General, Warships are the new WMD. We have, for better or worse, been entrusted with their stewardship, and as such, should be responsible stewards, not ones willing to use that stewardship irresponsibly in the name of national pride to sterilize worlds.



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