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Title: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
Hey folks I'm looking for a name of the MegaCastle built on Quentin as the TRAS HQ for the Draconis Front. Of course you guys know the other MegaCastle built on Hall as the TRAS HQ for the Marik Front is called Schrack as it is about anti-Marik as you can get. I was thinking something similar for the Kuritas but haven't been able to come up with anything. So what do you think?
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Hessian on May 30, 2010, 12:07:45 PM
Hmmm...What do you think of Yellow Bird? I can hardly think of anything else more anti-Kurita.

Ciao
Hessian
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Ice Hellion on May 30, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
Nice but not military enough.

What about Siegfried? or St Georges? or any other dragon slayer?
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: LordGrayson on May 30, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
hmm... name's for a fort ment to piss off the dragon ah =  (Ibis) Von Rohr
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 02:02:03 PM
I thought of Yellow Bird and it sounds good for an Operation but not a fort. Von Rohr just isn't right but would piss them off. I was going to go with Ascalon for St. George's sword but I have used that enough see Davion battleship among other things.

So Siegfried is my front runner right now. Any other mythical dragonslayers or their weapons we could use? How about American ships or bases of the Second World War that defeated the Japanese Empire? A significant loss would be good. Tempted to go with Wake Island but that doesn't sound right either.

Keep those suggestions coming!
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 03:19:29 PM
Hmm, how about Sigmund instead of Siegfried. I like it for a more Rasalhague or Norse sounding name. Or Lydda the place were St. George defeated the dragon.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: lrose on May 30, 2010, 04:02:19 PM

So Siegfried is my front runner right now. Any other mythical dragonslayers or their weapons we could use? How about American ships or bases of the Second World War that defeated the Japanese Empire? A significant loss would be good. Tempted to go with Wake Island but that doesn't sound right either.

I'm not sure using WW2 names is the right way to go- there are some ship names that do sound good - Fort Ticonderoga (yes I know there is a real world fort Ticonderoga- there was also a WW2 carrier by that name).  None of the battle names are really that good- Midway is already a planet in the DC.  Guadalcanal, just doesn't work for me (although there is something to be said for using Fort Henderson after Henderson Field on the Canal).  You could use WW2 naval commanders - Nimitiz, Halsey and Spruance come to mind but would that really bother the DC? 

A real poke in the eye would be Ozawa- since the Kuritans have had a running competition with them since WW2, but then again their is a world named Ozawa.

One possiblity is Watchtower- this was the code name for the Guadalcanal operation.  Coronet was the code name for the plan to invade Honshu/Tokyo.  Olympic was the code name for the invasion of Kyushu.

I really like watchtowe but I don't know that it would scare the DC.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Rainbow 6 on May 30, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
How about Chindit after the British Army jungle fighters from the Burma campaign?
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 04:52:01 PM
Some more good suggestions guys. Six I do not think Chindit would work even though it is appropriate.

Irose I love Ticonderoga on many levels but it still comes in behind Sigmund/Siegfried for me anyway.

For WW2 battle names I would agree that there isn't many great sounding choices even Henderson fails to impress me.

Hmm - Watchtower, Coronet, and Olympic sound good on the surface but would they sound good with MegaCastle ________ .

Now American commanders of the 2nd WW are an interesting thought. Nimitiz, Halsey and Spruance are good but what about McArthur? That might be the best option IMO.

What about famous Terran commanders who might have defeated the Combine during the Age of War? Coblitz and Farragut come to mind from fluff we have from TPTB. Are there others??

I have plans for Ozawa, lets leave it at that, and say no on this question.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Knightmare on May 30, 2010, 05:11:38 PM
Truth be told, as Terran/American centric as the Hegemony/Republic is, I actually like Fort Henderson or Fort Coblitz.

Otherwise it's too "other Great House" for my taste.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: lrose on May 30, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
Hmm - Watchtower, Coronet, and Olympic sound good on the surface but would they sound good with MegaCastle ________

For Watchtower, I figured it would just be referred to as The Watchtower. 


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Now American commanders of the 2nd WW are an interesting thought. Nimitiz, Halsey and Spruance are good but what about McArthur? That might be the best option IMO.

MacArthur was an ass... If you want a ground pounder I would go with Edson, Vandergrift or Basilone


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What about famous Terran commanders who might have defeated the Combine during the Age of War? Coblitz and Farragut come to mind from fluff we have from TPTB. Are there others??

Coblitz would work, not so sure about Farragut.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: CJvR on May 30, 2010, 08:13:26 PM
Leyte base - Since a Kurita made an ass of himself there.
Fort Sprague - The USN Admiral at Leyte bay.
Canary roost - Yellow bird theme.
Dog House - Same as above since the Canary got it's name from Canis - dog.
Corregidor - Fortress in WWII.
Khalkhin Gol (sounds fortressy) - After the incident with the Soviets in Manchuria. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
Gurthang - Since the snakes like Silmarillion why not the sword that slew Glaurung Morgoth's great dragon.
Fort Moresby - After Port Moresby, which the IJN and IJA failed to take despite numerous attempts.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
More great suggestions and I'll toss in two more thinking Knightmarishly. How about Mckenna or Cameron after the first two Houses of Terra? Mckenna after the founder of the Hegemony would be good.

The Watchtower is a good name for an installation of some type Irose. I'm thinking a listening post or forward base perhaps even a space base of some type.

McArthur was an egomaniac no doubt but he was a powerful symbol of US victory over Japan. He was Chief Administrator following the war, concluded the peace on board the Missouri (another good name), and the Phillipines Campaigns of course. 

The only problem with Coblitz is I'm just not that sure about his canon role. We've given him a little love here at BTSD but I'm just not that sure of his history. If he fought and defeated the Combine that is great but he could have been somewhere else.

Lot of good suggestions CJvR. Corregidor is a good name certainly but the US did lose initially.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: lrose on May 30, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
More great suggestions and I'll toss in two more thinking Knightmarishly. How about Mckenna or Cameron after the first two Houses of Terra? Mckenna after the founder of the Hegemony would be good.

Either of those would work.  But again both are names of warships....


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McArthur was an egomaniac no doubt but he was a powerful symbol of US victory over Japan. He was Chief Administrator following the war, concluded the peace on board the Missouri (another good name), and the Phillipines Campaigns of course. 

He should have been relieved of command following the fall of the Philippines for way the campaign was mishandled.   And it can be argued that one of the major reason the US invaded the Philippines and liberated it from the Japanese was because of MacArthur's egomania and need to fulfill his "I shall return" promise. 




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Lot of good suggestions CJvR. Corregidor is a good name certainly but the US did lose initially.

No one really pays attention to the fact that the US eventually recaptured the Island- I can't see using it as a name for a new fortress.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 30, 2010, 10:07:59 PM
Okay so my favorites so far are Sigmund, Ticonderoga, MacArthur, and Coblitz. I'm still open to new suggestions or we can start voting for a favorite.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: widowcompany on May 31, 2010, 02:09:52 AM
How about Fort Iwo Jima
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Ice Hellion on May 31, 2010, 03:52:09 AM
Too offensive oriented?

And Knightmare is right.

I think I wrote something about Coblitz.
I will check it when I get home.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: CJvR on May 31, 2010, 04:45:44 AM
Lot of good suggestions CJvR. Corregidor is a good name certainly but the US did lose initially.
Yes, but it was recaptured, in a rather brutal fasion IIRC.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: MechRat on May 31, 2010, 07:59:26 AM
I think I wrote something about Coblitz.

Ice, you did. I have a copy if you can't find it.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 31, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
I do vaguely remember an Ice write up for the SL Sentinel. Here is the canon reference.

“There are many who profess to understand the basic tenets of combat and yet who have never once set foot upon a battlefield. They will tell you exactly what you did wrong, touting this principle or that and quoting Sun-Tzu as if his words were from God himself. But anyone who’s actually led men into battle knows this one, basic truth: always keep on the move, pushing forward with everything you have as fast as you can. Even if sometimes that happens to be in the opposite direction from the enemy.”
–Terran Hegemony Field Marshal Mears Coblitz, as quoted by Tai-sho Hideki Grauman

Interestingly enough Coblitz is quoted by a Kurita officer during the War of 3039 so you could conclude that he was an honored/skilled opponent. However there is no direct evidence he ever fought them.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Gabriel on May 31, 2010, 11:29:11 PM
What about Fort Doolittle named after Lieutenant Colonel James "Jimmy" Doolittle ? After all he taught the japanese they were not as invulnerable as they thought they were. This megacastle would show Kurita that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on May 31, 2010, 11:45:17 PM
What about Fort Doolittle named after Lieutenant Colonel James "Jimmy" Doolittle ? After all he taught the japanese they were not as invulnerable as they thought they were. This megacastle would show Kurita that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Parapharsing Eisenhower - very nice. ;) Unfortunately MegaCastle Doolittle don't ring like a go getter for me even with its historical context. Good try though, nice to see you posting on the new forum btw Gabriel. Welcome!
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Gabriel on June 01, 2010, 12:27:19 AM
I will work on it. If not a megacastle how about a Forward Operating Base or something in that nature?
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Gabriel on June 01, 2010, 12:38:32 AM
What about Fort Lionheart?
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: lrose on June 01, 2010, 06:23:07 AM
Unfortunately MegaCastle Doolittle don't ring like a go getter for me even with its historical context.

I realize Megacastle is a take on Castle Brian but why not break from the past (as we are doing with the TR and House Sinclair anyway) and go with the simpler Fort __________  It gives alot more options for names, it's a lot less pretentious and you don't necessarily single out a particular base as being super important for the defense of an entire front.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: MechRat on June 01, 2010, 08:09:33 AM
I like lrose's idea. With a number of fortifications name in this manner, it forces the enemy to spend time and resources to figure out the size and importance of each one.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Takiro on June 01, 2010, 10:25:12 AM
I appreciate the idea guys but want to follow the template set by MegaCastle Schrack on Hall for the Marik Front. They are grandiose structures built for the specific purpose of commanding their fronts against the Republic's two primary adversaries hence the pretentious name. Besides Forts are a dime a dozen and these standout anyway in my opinion.

I had also planned a third and final MegaCastle being constructed on Earth near the Royal Palace which was to be the Terran military headquarters like the Citadel was for the SLDF or Mount Davion is for the AFFS or Asgard is for the LCAF. Using the first two as a basis it would perfect the MegaCastle design but I couldn't think of a name for that either when I wrote FM Terran Republic. As it is not a Front Command but the Military Headquarters of the entire nation I would "break precedent" for that. The Watchtower has a very good ring to it actually.
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Serack on June 01, 2010, 12:50:01 PM
how about Marianas  :)
Title: Re: Name this Fortification!
Post by: Ice Hellion on June 01, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
What about Fort Lionheart?

Quite suited for the one on Terra.