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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2012, 05:38:15 PM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on May 13, 2012, 02:53:57 AM
Where did you find these references to a 15th Sword of Light Regiment?

Oddly, predominantly in the descriptions of AeroSpace fighters, such as the Stuka description in 3039 (which claims the Fifteenth SoL existed until 2899; the encounter described in the fluff is cited as leading to the demise of the regiment).  The bulk of this fluff was in at least 3025R.  The 3039 Sholagar entry mentions the Third Sword of Light in the notable pilots section.  Somewhere around here is a thread where we delved into some of the inconsistencies of the SoL data, but ER:2750 looks like it may resolve a lot of the issues.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2012, 09:01:11 PM »
I drew a slightly different conclusion from the text than you guys. I thought the Draconis Mech brigades were named after the senior most regiment in the formation. I.E., the 4th SoL brigade was such because the 4th SoL regiment was the oldest formation attached to it, with the other regiments following its lead. Maybe the commanding general of the senior regiment had control over the whole formation with the rank of sho-sho. It does seem that the tradition of certain DCMS regiments having a general officer commanding it would have been rooted in that practice. All speculation of course.

The AFFS listings didn't really surprise me. I knew from the Field Manuals and other sourcebooks that a good chunk of House Davion's modern forces were formed during or after the 1st SW to replace the huge number of traditional forces destroyed in Minoru's offensive and the debacle on the Capellan March. It will be interesting to see that fleshed out in future materials. That DLC listing was confusing though.

All of the other regimental descriptions were nice enough as well, although the FWLM got kind of shafted there. What? No new provincial military units? If the Mariks had 190+ regiments by c.2785 and canon sources only account for about 90 or so, then there is a whole load of unknown units out there that have not even been touched upon. I do expect to see more on that in the future.

Finally, the SLDF got me really excited for the upcoming FM. A lot of those divisions seemed to have specialized ToEs, which makes them stand out a lot more, and the Special Forces command was a lot bigger than I had assumed. It seemed to include entire brigades of specialized Battlemech units among other things. It also seems the SLDF was starting to contract even before the Periphery rebellion. Those "bandit" raids must have been really bad if an entire Battlemech division (the 3rd) could be ground down by them. I guess we will have more details on that in the next few months.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2012, 01:32:06 PM »
Quote from: Halvagor on May 13, 2012, 05:38:15 PM
Oddly, predominantly in the descriptions of AeroSpace fighters, such as the Stuka description in 3039 (which claims the Fifteenth SoL existed until 2899; the encounter described in the fluff is cited as leading to the demise of the regiment).  The bulk of this fluff was in at least 3025R.  The 3039 Sholagar entry mentions the Third Sword of Light in the notable pilots section.  Somewhere around here is a thread where we delved into some of the inconsistencies of the SoL data, but ER:2750 looks like it may resolve a lot of the issues.

I looked at my TRO 3025 and found it too.
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Quote from: FirstStarLord on May 13, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
I drew a slightly different conclusion from the text than you guys. I thought the Draconis Mech brigades were named after the senior most regiment in the formation. I.E., the 4th SoL brigade was such because the 4th SoL regiment was the oldest formation attached to it, with the other regiments following its lead.

Except that Takiro wrote

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Fourth Sword of Light Brigade
Tenth Sword of Light
Eleventh Sword of Light
Twelfth Sword of Light

Your reasoning is good but perhaps for elite units they were trying to be logical with the numbers (for once)
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2012, 07:02:21 PM »
There is a thread in the Ask the Devs or Writers on CBT talking about it now.  It would seem TPTB have not decided where to go with the SOL yet.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2012, 07:11:18 PM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on May 14, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: Halvagor on May 13, 2012, 05:38:15 PM
Oddly, predominantly in the descriptions of AeroSpace fighters, such as the Stuka description in 3039 (which claims the Fifteenth SoL existed until 2899; the encounter described in the fluff is cited as leading to the demise of the regiment).  The bulk of this fluff was in at least 3025R.  The 3039 Sholagar entry mentions the Third Sword of Light in the notable pilots section.  Somewhere around here is a thread where we delved into some of the inconsistencies of the SoL data, but ER:2750 looks like it may resolve a lot of the issues.

I looked at my TRO 3025 and found it too.
Thanks.

Quote from: FirstStarLord on May 13, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
I drew a slightly different conclusion from the text than you guys. I thought the Draconis Mech brigades were named after the senior most regiment in the formation. I.E., the 4th SoL brigade was such because the 4th SoL regiment was the oldest formation attached to it, with the other regiments following its lead.

Except that Takiro wrote

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Fourth Sword of Light Brigade
Tenth Sword of Light
Eleventh Sword of Light
Twelfth Sword of Light

Your reasoning is good but perhaps for elite units they were trying to be logical with the numbers (for once)

But the Fourth Sword of Light Regiment was most certainly deployed in that brigade as well. The Fourth gets a writeup in the DC section and is mentioned as being a leading regiment of the DCMS during the War of the Davion Succession. Were the the Tenth through Twelfth all attached to the same brigade as the Fourth? I don't know for certain, but the text would seem to support that.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2012, 09:30:30 PM »
I'm leaning towards First's description here regarding the SLDF. Given the size and overall nature of the organization, I fully expected a lot of specialized units in excess to what was described in the original SLSB.

I was also surprised by the number of LAMs produced and provided to the Member-State militaries.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2012, 02:04:47 AM »
Lam's provided to the house militaries in vast numbers? I would of thought they would be in limited supply.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2012, 04:18:47 PM »
Well Kurita produced LAMs and lets not forget they did survive in numbers to the start of the BattleTech line. Meaning there were still units around in the Houses till that time. If they were Royal equipment chances are LAMs would have been forgotten about.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2012, 02:47:42 AM »
Hmm something about Lam's. I will remember soon.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 07:50:38 AM »
Yeah Now I remember I was scanning through the Battletech wiki and it has in the Lam entry the section titled Decline it states  that Lam's were produced in limited # by a handful of factories . Knightmare could you provide a rundown of that section of Era 2750 that deals with Lam's.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 08:55:04 AM »
There's a bit of inconsistency in older material- TR3025 says that LAMs were built in limited numbers, but on the flip side the SLSB shows that each SLDF mech division (and probably the infantry divisions also) had a battalion of LAMs attached to them. 

Era Report 2750 supports the existence of LAMs in every SLDF division.  The IS houses also had them - the FWL had the largest force and deployed them as full battalions and used them as rapid reaction and fast strike force, the other houses used them as scouts.

I think the term "limited" is context dependent- You could argue LAMs were built in limited quantities when there was only 1 battalion of them in a mech division compared with 6 regiments of conventional mechs.
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 02:19:52 PM »
That's what I was thinking Irose.

The prevalence of LAMs also helps support the idea of hideous "losses" during the First & Second Succession War. LAMs are notoriously fragile. You can write them off in their entirety once any sort of heavy fighting starts. Assigning such weak designs helps create heavy casualties (nukes also help.)
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Re: Era Report 2750
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2012, 01:23:54 AM »
Well soon we have better info on this subject
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