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General BattleTech => Shattered Dawn => Alternate Universe => Universal News & Reports => Topic started by: Gabriel on April 06, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
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Hi I just got my paws on this book and I really like some aspects of it but dislike others. I am wondering if the information in here will have any effect on Shattered Dawn? One thing for sure it answers a lot of my questions about New Dallas.
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To answer your question Gabe, yes Historical Liberation Terra Volume 1 will have an affect on Shattered Dawn. It sure does give us a lot of details on New Dallas and much more. There are some things I don't see eye to eye with the canon time line that we will adjust that leads me to this.
Let me detail for you our plan for the future. It is no secret that the BTSD line has been dormant for some time. We still have much work that we have done which has yet to be seen and recent historicals like the Reunification War have given us new insight into BattleTechs past. So we are using this year 2012, the Year of the Star League, to look over our work as well as new canon in order to craft a better fan product.
What I'd love to hear from all the fans is suggestions on what they would like to see in this Great Revision of BTSD. All input is welcome. ;)
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Well i doubt its possible but i'd like to find some way to:-
A - Keep the Rim Worlds Republic together as a viable nation.
B - Have the Free Rasalhague Republic/Principality of Rasalhague come back into existance in the 2785 timeline.
C - Have the Marian Hegemony come about in 2785 or even have the Lothian League expand into the space that eventually become the Marian Hegemony.
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I agree with keeping some vestige of the RWR, though I could see the nation fracturing; its extensive reach around the entire Periphery of the Lyran Commonwealth is quite unwieldy, even with HPGs; if it remains as one state it'd need to be decentralized on the scale of Pre-"Thomas" FWL, so a more plausible thing to happen may be for the state to fracture, with the largest section centered around Apollo, while the sections down the Steiner border split off to become petty states along the lines of the Palatinate, Marian Hegemony, and Lothian League. The Steiners are in the business of making money, which gives them an incentive to leave these petty states alone so long as they don't raid too heavily into Lyran territory (as they're unlikely to be sufficiently developed to be worth capturing many). Thus it'd be better for the RWR's own successor states spend a lot of their time fighting each other. Which allows for, you guessed it, proxy wars! All for the cheap price of Balkanizing the remnants of the RWR.
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I can live with that, i would like to see a number of smaller powers around.
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Here is my small list of suggestions.
1. Since the Historical states on p.81 Terran Hegemony Fixed Defenses that only 58 systems had defenses consisting of Castle Brian's or SDS or both. We either can accept that , toss that out the window or meld them together.
2. Carver V and the Royal Marines should play an even bigger part in Shattered Dawn. There is more information on and the battles fought to preserve the Hegemony.
3. New Dallas could be used as either a secret Republic R&D base using the mechs stored in their boneyards as the base for new mechs or use them to replenish the militia's stores of equipment.
More to come
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I can live with that, i would like to see a number of smaller powers around.
This has been something I've wanted as well. I like more the scramble between many powers struggling for dominance over a handful or so.
Id like a universe modeled after the FWL with many little states all having a voice together but at the same time fighting amongst themselves both in backroom deals and planetary assaults.
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Thought I’d gather suggestions together at this time. Please keep them coming.
1. New Dallas. Obviously an important addition but I also hoping to get more information on other “new†Terra “formed†worlds especially the Hegemony Provincial Capitals.
2. Rim Worlds. Don’t worry folks we got this subject covered and if you’d like to see some plans for Rim Successor States just go here,
http://ourbattletech.com/forum/rim-protectorate/rim-successor-states!/ (http://ourbattletech.com/forum/rim-protectorate/rim-successor-states!/)
3. Rasalhague. I can’t guarantee independence but stuff on House Sorenson (Kurita rulers of Rasalhague), Lyran Assimilation (I see the Dracs using “loyal†Rasalhaguers to help pacify conquered Steiner worlds), and their importance to the Combine will be on display.
4. Marian Hegemony. Working on it Six but don’t worry I like the Space Romans of BattleTech. Alphard will probably show up before the O’Reilly’s and the Hegemony though.
5. Hegemony Fixed Defenses. I did see this and was intrigued certainly. The more I hear on Castle Brains and their construction my earlier plans for Terran construction of these beasts may have to be altered. I talked about them in Fanbook 2 – Project Phoenix and Mini Castles should be fine but Mega Castles will be scaled back to one or eliminated. Also have to see if we can salvage a SDS or two. We gotta to take a look at Castle Brains again.
6. Carver V and the Royal Marines. This was going to be a big angle for the Terrans already but would you like to see them larger than a regiment?
7. Mini States. This might be a far future direction for BTSD however I pride myself on detailing the smaller regions of larger nation states. Plan on seeing things from the Provinces, Districts, Commonalties, Marches, and even Duchies.
Still looking for suggestions on canon characters you’d like to see fighting for Terra!
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Hi quick question
Terran Hegemony was originally 5 provinces why meaning no disrespect was it when the Hegemony was transformed into the Republic that the # of provinces was increased and all but one Provincial Capitals was altered??
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Good question Gabe one that will be addressed.
Quite simply my Terran Republic writings preceded the revelation of Hegemony Provincial in their current canon form. All I had to go on when I wrote the original fan fic was early FASA accounts in the SLSB, the Periphery SB, and the House Books. They lead me to believe that yes there were provinces which were detailed in one fashion then another. The example of the Sirian Concordance in the FWL book talks of a "Small" Province of 4 worlds joining the Mariks in the early 2790s. However information on the original SLDF Corps which took part in the Reunification War lead me to consider a "Large" Province system that split the Hegemony into 7 or so multi world divisions. DavionG took a stab at it and the lack of detail on the Hegemony lead to my decision to go with a new third Terran nation.
Today knowing what we know I can easily integrate the old Provinces into the story of a third Terran state after all didn't most authorities collobrate with Amaris during the Occupation. As such these worlds may have lost their moral authority with many Terrans so it is only natural that they would be replaced by more important, more loyal, and more practical capital worlds (i.e. less infrastructure damage).
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2. Rim Worlds. Don’t worry folks we got this subject covered and if you’d like to see some plans for Rim Successor States just go here,
http://ourbattletech.com/forum/rim-protectorate/rim-successor-states!/ (http://ourbattletech.com/forum/rim-protectorate/rim-successor-states!/)
4. Marian Hegemony. Working on it Six but don’t worry I like the Space Romans of BattleTech. Alphard will probably show up before the O’Reilly’s and the Hegemony though.
7. Mini States. This might be a far future direction for BTSD however I pride myself on detailing the smaller regions of larger nation states. Plan on seeing things from the Provinces, Districts, Commonalties, Marches, and even Duchies.
For me these are all part of the same thing, whilst i'd like to see all the 6 main states remain I would like to see more 'smaller' periphery states.
Looking at the map, have the 3 successors to the Rim Worlds Republic form as agreed, have the worlds that become the Chanellane isles form a single nation (possibly under a true hair to Ameris (even if he is going by another name), or have the same thing on Erin (von Stang's World); futher around the periphery have the Rim Protectorate form early also have the Marian Hegemony, Lotharian League and Circinus Federation begin forming multi state nations earlier.
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6. Carver V and the Royal Marines. This was going to be a big angle for the Terrans already but would you like to see them larger than a regiment?
Just merge the survivors into a bigger unit.
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Pretty much what I did Ice. Did think there was that much left of the Carver Marine defenders but they along with recruits were the basis for the 1st Royal Marines. The write up in FM TR 2785 also strongly alludes to the 2nd Royal Marines forming up quickly and were likely the next addition to the TRAS.
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How about Antonius Zalman or John Fletcher.
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I'd like to keep the clan founders together but if you can give me a good fluff reason why they'd stay i would consider them.
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I was going to suggest Major General Kaile Martinson of the Michigan 61st or Shin Katsumoto Ronin but I could not find any info on them
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Got a page number Gabriel? Their names might pop up again and I'll be on the look out for family ties, homeworld, or other compelling reasons.
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Yes For M.G. Martinson it is page 129 and p110 For Shin Katsumoto. There are probaly others I will look and let you know.
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Shin Katsumoto - an interesting character to say the least but one that I do not see any possibility of loyalty to the Terran state. A ronin asked to join the SLDF by Lord Kurita I see him either returning to the Combine to lead the Shadow (Ronin) Regiments at the start of the Succession War or leaving with Kerensky as one of the SLDFs leading instructors.
Kaile Martinson - SLDF Major General (retired) was probably the commander of the 61st Infantry Division (The Michigan 61st) during the Amaris Coup. The 61st was stationed in the Lyran Commonwealth Military District with the 11th Army (my best guess garrisoning the Federation of Skye) prior to the Periphery Uprising. Heavily damaged during the Hegemony Campaign and/or Operation Liberation the 61st was disbanded. In canon it looks like Martinson retired to Skye writing the Tales of the Michigan 61st in Grandy Press of Skye 2793 so it looks as if he retired there. I don't see a reason to change this but an interesting side note has one of his supporting units, 346th Heavy Tank Regiment, joining the FWL as mercs in the BTSD universe.
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Well How about these officers General Koji Talasko Special Forces Command P. 84, Major Derjan Sefik P. 81 , General Saul Van Der Kolk CAAN Commander P. 82 . This shoul be useful.
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General Koji Talasko of the Special Forces Command is a no. Star Addermy friend
Major Derjan Sefik of Caph is likely the one to join Terran defense if he survives the occupation
General Saul Van Der Kolk the CAAN Commander of Carver V is a possibility but his age may prevent a tenure with the TRAS. Many senior commanders could conceivably just retire after the carnage of the Amaris Coup. However i'll keep him in mind.
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The SaKhan of Clan Star Adder Was Kensington Talasko Not Koji Talasko. I submit they were two different Star League Officers. According to some info I have Kensington Talasko was a Star Captain during Operation Klondike before he began his rise to SaKhanship.
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Quite correct Gabe however I assumed Koji was the forebearer of the Star Adder line so he is either Kensington's father or grandfather.
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Another possibility is that Kensington is his Cousin or Nephew and while Kensington Talasko line's progenitor left on the Exodus Koji Talasko line did not. So this gives us a link to the Clans but gives a Loyal Terran Republic Soldier . I know this maybe smoke and mirrors but it could work to the Republic's advantage.
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Another possibility is that Kensington is his Cousin or Nephew and while Kensington Talasko line's progenitor left on the Exodus Koji Talasko line did not. So this gives us a link to the Clans but gives a Loyal Terran Republic Soldier . I know this maybe smoke and mirrors but it could work to the Republic's advantage.
Actually that's not so far fetched- I know of at least 2 instances in canon where that happened - the first is the Wards- we have have Michael Ward staying in the IS and another who went with Kerensky. We also have in Bloodright General Frederick Hallis who went with Kerensky and descendants of his IS relatives who did not. I think there is a third instance where a son stayed in the IS while the father went on the Exodus (or vice versa) but I can't remember where I read that.
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Well I believe Sinclair is also a Viper blood name as well. I could see some families especially in this instance dividing over the Exodus.
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Well I believe Sinclair is also a Viper blood name as well.
It is, although it is not listed in Invading Clans or FMWC as an exclusive Steel Viper Bloodname.
Quite correct Gabe however I assumed Koji was the forebearer of the Star Adder line so he is either Kensington's father or grandfather.
Perhaps we will know when Historical: Liberation of Terra II gets published.
Ciao
Hessian
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well i like it that we now have full stats for Caspar Warships up to Battleship Caspars. ;D
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Yeah unfortunately the Texas Drone didn't work. :'(
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considering that this is written in perspective of Hegemony propaganda i will take it with a grain of salt, meaning that it could be a missinformation attempt.
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Perhaps ;)
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feel a disturbance in the force do i. :o