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Mafias
« on: June 29, 2010, 02:47:11 PM »

A couple of quick questions:
- would they be national or multinational organisations?
- could there be more than one group in a State?
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The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Mafias
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 03:32:26 PM »

Ice this falls under the Syndicate which was the criminal organization during the Star League era. Basically it would link organized crime together all over the Human Sphere. It would be made up of the usual suspects (the mob, yakuza, tongs, triads, etc.) from all over the InnerSphere.
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Re: Mafias
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 03:48:01 PM »

Organized crime is a tough question. I mean outside of the Yakuza organizations in the Draconis Combine we haven't really heard much about any similarly-sized counterparts in the other Successor States. I mean if you want to go all Shadowrun here then building fully functional national or international crime synds would be a good idea, though I have to wonder if any would be as successful as the Yakuza in the other Great Houses.

The super-repressive regime of the Capellan Confederation for example, with the Mask, would be a tough nut to crack for a multi-world group to grow, thrive or even survive, but the relative squalor of some of the Cappie worlds would be a prime breeding ground for local groups. I can see the Confederation having a real law enforcement problem on a lot of their worlds. It'd be localized problems of course, but still troublesome nevertheless.

There's also the question of demographics...the heavy Japanese cultural influence in the DC can often override, or at the very least co-exist with some of the native cultures. Since this cultural influence is prevalent cover across the DC stratosphere it provides at least a little room for the development of the Yakuza, even on Rasalhague worlds. (Where I also think they'd run into local conflict with Norse-inspired gangs, etc.)

Whereas in other successor states the cultural influence is more or less stuck among the upper crust (i.e. the governing bodies.) Sure the Lyran Commonwealth has a heavy dose of Germanic influence, but it's not imposed or enforced upon the civilian populace. You embrace it b/c either A.) You were born into it, or B.) B/c you want to rise in the ranks (social or otherwise.) The same could be said for the other nations of the Inner Sphere, perhaps even more so for the fiercely culturally localized FWL.

So I can see in some cases regional-dominate crime power houses in some places, but nothing close to the same pull, power or prevalence as the DC Yakuza Clans.  

Though I will say things change over space and time...

For example, the upheaval of the Amaris Coup and the subsequent liberation would definitely create a power vacuum among any pre-existing criminal organizations (maybe they collaborated or were wiped out?) as well as the original levels of crime enforcement (which may have also collaborated or were wiped out.) That type of chaos is fertile breeding ground for a whole round of societal changes, such as the growth or intrusion of new syndicates, etc., or the creation of new law enforcement.

However, over time and as the TR condenses and strengthens its position/existence that surface chaos begins to dissipate and in its wake another round of changes to the (at that point) existing crime orgs/crime enforcement orgs occur. Whether it's for the good (as in law enforcement is able to remove the new crime synds) or bad (the new crime synds prosper and grow) all depends on how you write it.  ;D  
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Re: Mafias
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 06:04:32 PM »

Well first let me quote the overview for the Syndicate.

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   The roots of this interstellar criminal organization date back to the time of the Reunification War. As the nations of the InnerSphere came together so to did some of their criminal organizations. A shadowy group named the Syndicate first emerged thanks to the expanding black market and international smuggling associated with that conflict. Led by a series of mysterious Overlords who styled themselves as the First Lords’ of mayhem this band of outlaws grew. Eventually encompassing a vast confederacy of criminal societies that included the Yakuza, Tongs, Triads, Gangs, and various Mafias spread throughout the Human Sphere. Star League authorities alleged their involvement in a wide variety of theft, piracy, drug trafficking, slave trading, assassinations, and various other nefarious enterprises during the Golden Age of Mankind. Despite efforts by the establishment to fight and eliminate this massive underworld guild it continued to thrive. As the Syndicate rose with the League so too did it decline. Cooperation among its members declined at the same time as the Star League which had ironically battled it for many years. The Syndicate has fallen on tough times since its criminal alliances have been shattered and the destruction wrought by the Succession War badly disrupted its various enterprises. For now it remains to be seen if this unlawful endeavor will survive or be just another casualty of the Succession War.

Criminal organizations tend to form around a common society. Organized crime I would almost classify at the planetary level because of its ethnic homogeneity. As colonists first spread from Terra various cultural groups settled regions or worlds and sometimes sections of space. So to did the crime groups we know from today. This is shown best in the Draconis Combine whose Japanese Yakuza seem apparent to all. I'd imagine Russian Mafia would be big around Tikonov and in areas of the Combine, Tongs and Triads in the Capellan Zone settled by the Chinese, and on and on. I'm not saying everywhere you'd find Italians you would find the mob but you get the picture. 

So start listing organized crime groups and perhaps a few new ones might have appeared in the time since.

I'd probably tie of what is left of the Syndicate in with either the Terran Republic or the Free Worlds League. More likely the Terrans because of the group's similarities to the legitimate Cameron dynasty and the Syndicate is likely to have every criminal organization represented on Earth because that is where they all came from and every culture is likely still present.

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Re: Mafias
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »

I think you both had good points.  ;D
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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