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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2015, 08:38:22 PM »

No, I am just being lazy.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2015, 02:15:49 PM »

No, I am just being lazy.

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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2015, 04:26:37 PM »

That is well in hand.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2015, 06:37:40 AM »

OK, well I finally got my ass into gear and here are the results.  Note that my formula for dumbing down ship stats favours firepower and armour, as it was designed to simulate fleet actions, where vessels have to close and engage, so fast designs, not set up for fleet actions tend to be heavily penalized.

That left the rankings as follows:

1 Defender (ATN082268)
2 Apollo (Able)
3 Blacknova (Masterarminas)
4 Resolute (Irose)
5 Alisha (Drakensis)
6 Nova (Takiro)

From a battle line viewpoint, the Defender is the go to, but it is more of a small cruiser than a destroyer.  The Apollo was the best balanced design, with the Blacknova, Resolute and Alisha all fairly similar in overall capability, with all four being good Destroyers in differing roles. The Nova, though fast and a true picket, was panned by the conversion.

Based on what I can buy for a set budget and what that gives me in flexibility and firepower over the number of hulls of each class I could buy, they rank:

Apollo (Able)
Aliesha (Drakensis)
Blacknova (Masterarminas)
Defender (ATN082268)
Nova (Takiro)
Resolute (Irose)

So although the Defender is a brute, it is bloody expensive, where as the cheaper Apollo, Aliesha and Blacknova can get me more hulls doing more damage total.  the number of Nova's makes them a possible buy based on hull numbers and the Resolute, due to lack of power and highish cost bottoms out.

However, when cost is compared to firepower for series production, the following applies:

Resolute (Irose)
Blacknova (Masterarminas)
Nova (Takiro)
Aliesha (Drakensis)
Apollo (Able)
Defender (ATN082268)

The Resolute's in a group production run will hang with you through numbers and hull strength, with the Blacknova and Nova not far off.

For series production on an all rounder, go for, surprisingly, the Nova.  It is cheap, but has enough all round capability to make series production a real option and with that many fast ships all over the shop, it would cause trouble.

Nova (Takiro)
Aliesha (Drakensis)
Apollo (Able)
Blacknova (Masterarminas)
Resolute (Irose)
Defender (ATN082268)

So, if you want a one off brusier, you cant go past the Defender for one on one action or close fleet escort.  For series production for a attack vessel, you want the Apollo, and for series on a defensive vessel, go for the Resolute.  The Nova is your go to for general series production, either that or my sums are broken as it's an odd bird.



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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2015, 01:33:40 PM »

I am pleased by how much you liked the Apollo. I liked it, too, given the limitations of the challenge.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2015, 12:47:12 AM »

Nice.  Sad that I didn't place higher than 2nd in any category--but c'est la vie:)

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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2015, 02:43:16 AM »

To add to my earlier thoughts, if I was to use some of these designs to outfit a fleet, I would do the following.

I would produce them in the following numbers:
Defender 20%
Apollo 35%
Resolute 35%
Nova 10%

Based on their cost/resource allocation, that would give me, for an KU universe spend of 10 000 total

Defender 4
Apollo 12
Resolute 12
Nova 6

What I would do with that is assign the 4 Defenders as close fleet escorts and/or heavy independent defense ships for targets that warrant a WarShip but don't rate a cruiser.  I would use the Apollo and Resolute class as the inner fleet picket ring, complementing each other and assign them in 4 ship squadrons.  The Nova would act as distant fleet pickets and independent patrol and raiding ships.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2015, 03:51:19 AM »

The Aleisha doesn't stand out I guess.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2015, 06:48:24 PM »

Unfortunately no, not in this one, it gets close, ut does not quite get there in any category.
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2015, 04:23:44 AM »

Then I guess it's an excellent compromise!
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Re: Blacknova's Challenge
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2015, 06:52:42 PM »

Spoken like a true Capellan.
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